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CZ LONG ARMS => VZ-58 semi auto rifle => Topic started by: Forced March on April 27, 2017, 02:25:26 PM
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It is not yet working right. At the time of the video, unbeknownst to myself it had: a broken disconnector, a broken receiver, 3x broken piston springs, and still it tried it's little heart out to shoot 100%! 2 out of 3 are due to poorly milled receivers sold by AWO. I've been waiting months for them to resolve the issues or not. DOES ANYONE OUT THERE HAVE A LONG RECEIVER STUB??? The going price is $25 each, I need atleast there of them to fix this thing, otherwise it's dead in the water...
From what I hear, all it needs now is an "arm brace" ;) JK, it needs to be repaired, and a bunch of finishing work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6Qq_jl_eLs
(http://i1306.photobucket.com/albums/s577/ForcedMarchFabrication/P1000837_zps75kejic1.jpg) (http://s1306.photobucket.com/user/ForcedMarchFabrication/media/P1000837_zps75kejic1.jpg.html)
(http://i1306.photobucket.com/albums/s577/ForcedMarchFabrication/P1000843_zpsakj9lfmz.jpg) (http://s1306.photobucket.com/user/ForcedMarchFabrication/media/P1000843_zpsakj9lfmz.jpg.html)
(http://i1306.photobucket.com/albums/s577/ForcedMarchFabrication/P1000838_zpsl2f2kyeb.jpg) (http://s1306.photobucket.com/user/ForcedMarchFabrication/media/P1000838_zpsl2f2kyeb.jpg.html)
(http://i1306.photobucket.com/albums/s577/ForcedMarchFabrication/P1000841_zpsg1fvyvoh.jpg) (http://s1306.photobucket.com/user/ForcedMarchFabrication/media/P1000841_zpsg1fvyvoh.jpg.html)
(http://i1306.photobucket.com/albums/s577/ForcedMarchFabrication/P1000840_zpsp21ltr7p.jpg) (http://s1306.photobucket.com/user/ForcedMarchFabrication/media/P1000840_zpsp21ltr7p.jpg.html)
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That's pretty awesome. Are the barrels all in line or slightly adjusted for an optimum cone of fire at a specific range?
Oh, and I just found my calipers so those receiver dimensions will be to you by this weekend.
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Receivers are just parallel.
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Have any target pics or downrange video? You have me intrigued!
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Nope, the videographer didn't think thought of that, suffices to say it just makes an absurd cloud of dust and at 1400-2100 rounds a minute(depending on your arm), the 90 it holds doesn't last long...
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That is so beautiful it brings tears to my eyes.
Can I put that front sight on my rifles?
Very impressive.
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If you look closely you'll notice that the front and rear sights are both made from bayonets and bayonet lugs.
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That is pretty bleep cool!
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If you look closely you'll notice that the front and rear sights are both made from bayonets and bayonet lugs.
I did notice that. I also noticed that the barrels are mounted upside down, utilizing the bayonet lug. Very clever. But how does that work with the magazines still being on the bottom like normal? Shouldn't the magazines be sticking out the top? Maybe that's why it's jamming...
Just kidding, of course.
I would love to see the mechanisms that go from the hand crank to the triggers.
I come back every once in a while simply to gaze at your ghastly creation. It's so wonderfully evil looking.
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If you look closely you'll notice that the front and rear sights are both made from bayonets and bayonet lugs.
What? No guinea pig mounting accessory? Not even a gut brace?
Gracious golly gumdrops!!!
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I know right. It's got a single magazine release, the rear sight is adjustable for windage and elevation, you can see the bolts charging handles had to be re-engineered to work side by side, it has one safety for all sub-receivers, and while you can't see it in the video very well - the tripod is possibly the coolest part of the whole build. Seriously, it's my favorite part.
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That thing's a hoot! 8)
Unfortunately, it would appear that the rather sloppy striker-fired Vz58 fcg might not be the best candidate for this type of apparatus.
I can see where 3 Mini Dracos with 75 or 100 round drums might work better, mounted a little farther apart from one another so the drums wouldn't interfere with each other.
Of course, to lower your center of gravity to keep from getting pushed back from the recoil, you would necessarily want to shoot it directly from the crotch, a la the "Dusk till Dawn" crotch revolver. :o
Wear a cup!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jts0xxg7P8I
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On the contrary, I thought they'd be the best candidate as they eject up and the charging handle can be moved. I have already bought all the broken pars to fix it, now I need three receiver stubs, without those, I got nothing...
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On the contrary, I thought they'd be the best candidate as they eject up and the charging handle can be moved. I have already bought all the broken pars to fix it, now I need three receiver stubs, without those, I got nothing...
Is this what you need?
https://www.czechpoint-usa.com/receiver-stub
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Okay, I am hoping for saw cut ones BUT those might work, certainly harder to set up but probably be done. I did ask Dan(CzechPoint) about saw cut ones, no go. But you inspired me so I sent him another email just now about the torch cut ones lying around. Thanks TJNewton.
After a month of correspondence with may manufacturers CNC warrior says they have four saw cut ones but after agreeing on $40 each they are now unsure if they want to send them to me - fuc*ing bast*rds! Assault Weapons of Ohio sold me the shi* receivers. They don't seem to give a shi*. I'm really tired of being disregarded... I hope everyone who reads this can learn from my suffering. I've given alot of business to both companies and this sucks...
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Dan just got back to me, all he has have got the locking lugs cut up.... :(
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I've got one in storage that looks much like the one on the Czechpoint site, except that mine still has the barrel, etc attached. It's from an Ohio Ordnance Works parts kit. I'm not sure what area you need intact or the difference, for your purposes, between torch or saw cut. I'll see if I can dig it out this weekend and send you a pic.
Have you considered calling Ohio Ordnance Works? They don't have parts kits listed anymore, but they still have plenty of parts. They may have what you need in the back of the shop in a bucket being used as a door stop.
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Good idea! I just called them and left a detailed message with their receptionist.
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Absolutely no luck tracking down parts other than the owner of CNC warrior saying he'd sell me some stubs and then never talking to me on the phone again and never giving the okay for his underlings to take my money and mailing them to me...
However there maybe some light at the end of the tunnel. I realized just last night that all six ($1,440)of my Assault Weapons of Ohio receivers are worthless. They don't work right and nobody gives a bleep. Certainly not AWO, they sold 1400 of these, at 240 each that's $336,000.00. It's fuc*ing ridiculous! Anyhow, now that I consider them valueless I can begin experimenting on them, that was the revelation. To get to the darn point, last night I began cutting one up with a grinder. My plan is to document the process in case it works AND in case anyone wants their AWO receiver to be reliable.
Forgive me for being weird but I can't have something in my arsenal with such a defect.
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Sent you Denny's email via PM as no longer on their website that I see so keeping that semi-private.
At one point AWO/ORF was selling out of spec galil receivers by the lot/bucket effectively as doorstop or project materials... There was a lot of inventory there at one point produced by a previous company that AWO attempted to sort out. Apparently ORF kept all of their bad milled receivers and it was also less of an automated process than CNCW and some other receiver builders. Hence, the inconsistency and other issues. Coupled with once bad receivers make it out in the wild, they get resold as "bona fide excellent receivers," etc.
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Good info RSR.
Denny seemed like he might send them to me, but nothing. I have previously sent him a link to my work AND maybe that's why, I don't know. Maybe he "HATES" when people are happy, all beauty in the world, and functioning Gatling guns??? LOL
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Wouldn't be surprised if he's been caught up w/ NRA, etc. My experience w/ CNCW has been nothing but positive. Sometimes they are slow on the manufacture side, but customer service and product quality has always been top notch. Keep after him, I'm sure you'll hear from him, even if eventually.