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GENERAL => Ammunition, questions, and handloading techniques => Topic started by: Gunnerdad80 on September 18, 2020, 10:31:45 PM
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I’m literally selling guns to buy 300 blackout target and self defense ammo! >:( A friend of mine said he’d let me use his reloading tools if I bought the supplies but we can’t even find supplies. :-\
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It's insane, 9mm target ammo going for $600 delivered for 1000rds on Gunbroker.
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Yeah, I just paid $525 delivered for 500 rounds of 300 blackout target ammo. And that was a “good” deal...
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dont know if you have any 22LR,
but when things settle down you may want to consider a 22. And then load up on some ammo.
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dont know if you have any 22LR,
but when things settle down you may want to consider a 22. And then load up on some ammo.
I have an old Winchester Model 275 pump action .22 magnum that my dad accidentally shot me with as a child. ;D It’s a sweet little shooter too.
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dont know if you have any 22LR,
but when things settle down you may want to consider a 22. And then load up on some ammo.
I have an old Winchester Model 275 pump action .22 magnum that my dad accidentally shot me with as a child. ;D It’s a sweet little shooter too.
when things settle down, i would find/buy some type of 22LR and load up on ammo. When things like this happen, and this is not the first and it wont be the last (hint hint), then you will have something to go bang and have some fun.
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Stack it up high enough, and it obscures ones view of the ammo prices going up - Shooters Proverb #372 ;D
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Stack it up high enough, and it obscures ones view of the ammo prices go up - Shooters Proverb #372 ;D
Amen brother Tok. ;D
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This won’t last forever. Shoot more rimfire.
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Not worried about ammo. I just need primers to come back. I only have about 6 months supply left.
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Not worried about ammo. I just need primers to come back. I only have about 6 months supply left.
Primers won't be readily available until well after ammo is back on shelves.
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Well, it is time to start grinding up match heads then i guess. :) I am not sure how i am going to get some of those tiny anvils. Anyone know a tiny blacksmith? ;D
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If I didn’t have a decent reserve of 9mm target ammo, it would be cheaper to shoot my 10mm.
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If I didn’t have a decent reserve of 9mm target ammo, it would be cheaper to shoot my 10mm.
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Man, it’s crazy to think 9mm is more than 10mm.
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If I didn’t have a decent reserve of 9mm target ammo, it would be cheaper to shoot my 10mm.
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Man, it’s crazy to think 9mm is more than 10mm.
My shooting buddies used to give me grief about shooting "expensive" .357Sig. Now .45ACP is priced higher. I had just finished all the changes I wanted to do to my 97BD and was getting pretty good with it. Now if I can find .45, it is more than .357Sig at most places. Insane. I was lucky to get 1,000 rounds of 9mm from SGAMMO before priced went through the roof. I have plenty of JHP in 9mm, .357Sig, and .45ACP, but I am not shooting any of them. All I have been doing is shooting my newly acquired 455 in .22lr. To heck with the rest. I have not even considered buying another handgun due to ammo issue.
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I’m literally selling guns to buy 300 blackout target and self defense ammo! >:(
Probably not a good idea, as you might invariably sell something you will later wish you hadn't. My advice is to wait out the "storm" as best you can.
Conserve what ammunition you do have on stock and stay away from the Ammunition scalpers.
Get an "O" Ring and do some dry fire training.
https://youtu.be/rFJsX-E_24E
https://youtu.be/XLMfa_ZbeHA
As for myself, I've been stocking up for a long long time for just such historical events. and I still reload.
My last practice session, last Saturday, expended 30 rounds of .22LR and 50 rounds of my 9mm Reloads.
Those 50 rounds of 9mm Reloads were expended over three different 9mm Pistols.
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Thanks for the videos JWC. I’ve been hitting the local Academy early every chance I get. It would make you sick to your stomach if you knew what I just paid for 400 rounds of mixed Hornady 300 blackout HD/SD. :-[ Which is why I’m sacrificing some pistols. I know it’s gonna hurt later too.
I don’t wanna sound all dramatic or anything but, I gotta admit, the current climate of unrest and division has me worried enough to make the decisions I am right now. I’ve never really been the type to worry too much about a little unrest but what’s going on right now just feels different, to me at least. The sheer lack of respect and concern for others, especially law enforcement/first responders/military, that we’ve seen lately is unnerving. I guess right now I’m trying to live by “Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.” I’m hoping and praying for NOT needing it.
I can guarantee one thing, I’ll never let myself get caught with my pants down again when it comes to ammo. Lesson learned.
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I don’t wanna sound all dramatic or anything but, I gotta admit, the current climate of unrest and division has me worried enough to make the decisions I am right now. I’ve never really been the type to worry too much about a little unrest but what’s going on right now just feels different, to me at least. The sheer lack of respect and concern for others, especially law enforcement/first responders/military, that we’ve seen lately is unnerving.
I agree. There's a new breed of politician in our midst and they and their masses are being funded by persons and countries that hate the United States and every freedom we have. They are pulling out all the stops this time to destroy us. I'd like to believe things will return to normal but at this stage I just don't see it happening. Get what you can when you can and be ready. I'm afraid there's much more to come.
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That's capitalism, baby! 8)
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EUREKA!!! Academy opened at 9am this morning and I was in line at 8:20am. I was able to score 500 rounds of Federal 300 Blackout FMJ and 450 rounds of some 9mm FMJ. I grabbed only some of the 300blk at first and nobody else seemed to want any. Academy was only limiting 9mm & .223/5.56 so I bought it all. “I gotta say it was a good day.” 8)
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If I didn’t have a decent reserve of 9mm target ammo, it would be cheaper to shoot my 10mm.
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Man, it’s crazy to think 9mm is more than 10mm.
Came across someone trying to sell me 50 ct Magtech ball for $60! It's outrageous...
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Came across someone trying to sell me 50 ct Magtech ball for $60! It's outrageous...
Did you tell him where he can stick it?!...O0
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That's capitalism, baby! 8)
Yes it is.
A wise shooter told me not being able to afford a guns or bullets is way better than not being allowed to have any of them.
True bullets were cheaper a short time ago. You also didn't have to wear a mask and watch NFL players kneel for our anthem. Crazy times.
Primers are my acheilia's heal now.
The market will be what people will pay. If you wont pay that price, then you will either be without or always looking for someone who doesn't know what the market is and take advantage of them.
It is my experience that value is not always a reflection of production cost, it is a reflection of replacement cost. If the market shifts back and some store has a an order arrive they paid the 50 bucks a box rate for would you pay them 50 when the price is now 15 because they bought them when it was 50 bucks or would you expect them to be at the market price. Cake and eat it hardly ever happens.
GD80...Selling guns to buy bullets?
I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't even consider it.
Good news is, Now you are set for a little while. Next time you sell something to buy bullets - PM me. I am always looking for a good deal on guns.
RCG
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GD80...Selling guns to buy bullets?
I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't even consider it.
Good news is, Now you are set for a little while. Next time you sell something to buy bullets - PM me. I am always looking for a good deal on guns.
RCG
Fortunately I’m in no shortage of guns. 8) I can sacrifice a few and get them again later. I may post them here if they don’t sell locally soon.
As for professional sports, they lost me when my Texans refused to even show their faces for our National Anthem. I support equality for ALL but not disdain for our Country. I may go back to watching UFC fights. Dana White doesn’t seem to be putting up with the BS.
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GD80...Selling guns to buy bullets?
I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't even consider it.
Good news is, Now you are set for a little while. Next time you sell something to buy bullets - PM me. I am always looking for a good deal on guns.
RCG
Fortunately I’m in no shortage of guns. 8) I can sacrifice a few and get them again later. I may post them here if they don’t sell locally soon.
As for professional sports, they lost me when my Texans refused to even show their faces for our National Anthem. I support equality for ALL but not disdain for our Country. I may go back to watching UFC fights. Dana White doesn’t seem to be putting up with the BS.
Gave up on the NBA years ago, NFL a few years ago, and now MLB. More time for fishing and hunting so not a loss in my book. The redfish wanted to die Sunday morning, 2 nice 25/26 inch reds plus caught and released 5 more over 20, 10 or 12 trout released too. The boss lady caught 3 nice flounder and 10 trout. Pan sauteed flounder with a mixed green salad for dinner this evening.
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Gave up on the NBA years ago, NFL a few years ago, and now MLB. More time for fishing and hunting so not a loss in my book. The redfish wanted to die Sunday morning, 2 nice 25/26 inch reds plus caught and released 5 more over 20, 10 or 12 trout released too. The boss lady caught 3 nice flounder and 10 trout. Pan sauteed flounder with a mixed green salad for dinner this evening.
FISH FRY AT RON M’s HOUSE!!! :D
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I’m literally selling guns to buy 300 blackout target and self defense ammo! >:(
Probably not a good idea, as you might invariably sell something you will later wish you hadn't. My advice is to wait out the "storm" as best you can.
Conserve what ammunition you do have on stock and stay away from the Ammunition scalpers.
Get an "O" Ring and do some dry fire training.
https://youtu.be/rFJsX-E_24E
https://youtu.be/XLMfa_ZbeHA
As for myself, I've been stocking up for a long long time for just such historical events. and I still reload.
My last practice session, last Saturday, expended 30 rounds of .22LR and 50 rounds of my 9mm Reloads.
Those 50 rounds of 9mm Reloads were expended over three different 9mm Pistols.
It's not scalping to sell at market rates -- it's basic economics.
Ammo retailers were selling at loss for the better part of at least 2 years preceding this current run with ammo prices at historical lows -- SG Ammos biweekly sales emails repeatedly detailed. This whole thing has been a classic ant vs grasshopper scenario.
That's why I've been parting with very limited ammo that I really don't want to sell to help alleviate some of the crunch as I know a lot of folks have little to no ammo on hand in these trying times -- and b/c so little is available, it's driving prices even higher. By those of us with ample squirreled away selling, it helps to lower prices, not raise them.
*To be clear, I haven't bought any ammo in the past 6 months, so not flipping, which I agree is a problem right now. Just like it was 2012-2014 when the retired set would buy all the ammo each morning and then resell at gun shows and on gunbroker as supplemental income...
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I stopped at Academy last week for something other than ammo. Most of the guys in line were retirees with their wives so they could buy double. All talking about the lines and limits at various stores around town. Flippers not shooters. I'm stocked with components but continue to buy 22lr for Steel Challenge. Good thing I was wearing a mask so they couldn't see the look on my face.
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dont know if you have any 22LR,
but when things settle down you may want to consider a 22. And then load up on some ammo.
I agree! I am shooting 22 LR almost exclusively right now. I bought several cases of 9mm ammo when it was $180 per 1000, but I am being very stingy when shooting the 9mm. All I can think of is the replacement cost will be $.40 to $.60 a round.
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I'm worried about 22lr to be honest. I think we'll see other calibers come back. The manufacturers have to be ramping back up, and I'm guessing they are sucking up all the primers.
The last crisis, the other calibers came back more quickly than 22lr. It seemed forever before that got back to normal.
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If some of you are saying there’s a .22 LR shortage I haven’t seen that in my area. I went to two Walmarts and one Academy yesterday and they all had a fair amount of .22 LR but barely any .22 Magnum.
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If some of you are saying there’s a .22 LR shortage I haven’t seen that in my area. I went to two Walmarts and one Academy yesterday and they all had a fair amount of .22 LR but barely any .22 Magnum.
If you have a 22lr and like to shoot it, you better stock up. The stores are rationing 22 here in East TN. My online supplier was back in stock with Ely yesterday and sold out of bulk ammo in a couple hours. I stood in line at Academy the other day and was limited to 3 100rd packs of Minimags. As a reference, one match uses a minimum 195rds. Even the odd hunting calibers are getting scarce here.
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If you have a 22lr and like to shoot it, you better stock up. The stores are rationing 22 here in East TN. My online supplier was back in stock with Ely yesterday and sold out of bulk ammo in a couple hours. I stood in line at Academy the other day and was limited to 3 100rd packs of Minimags. As a reference, one match uses a minimum 195rds. Even the odd hunting calibers are getting scarce here.
Oh wow. Well, now that I’m feeling somewhat comfortable with my 9mm, .380, & 300 Blk stocks, I’ll start buying more .22 mag.
This is funny to me though. Academy is only limiting 9mm and .223/5.56 right now. Customers are only allowed three boxes of each. The funny thing is, it doesn’t matter if it’s three 20 round boxes or three 1000 round boxes. I watched a guy walking out of Academy struggling to carry three 1000 round boxes of .223. I could not help but laugh in awe of this guy. ;D I assume his intentions are to flip it but I don't know that for certain. I mean, this is Texas, so it’s not too unusual for someone to have that much for personal use. ;D
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During the last shortage I was really into 40S&W and had plenty and could find ammo. This time around my main round is 9mm. I am just not willing to shoot any right now. So, I decided to finally get into 22 right before all the insanity started. Picked up a Beretta 92 22LR kit and have been loving it. Took my Elite LTT to the range a couple weeks back and fired one mag of 9mm through it and about 150 rounds of 22LR. REALLY widh i could find a Kadet kit for my P07 and P09!
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REALLY widh i could find a Kadet kit for my P07 and P09!
I found a Kadet kit for my P07 days before everything shut down for $150 used. This is what I have been shooting for the most part since then.
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I stopped at Academy last week for something other than ammo. Most of the guys in line were retirees with their wives so they could buy double. All talking about the lines and limits at various stores around town. Flippers not shooters. I'm stocked with components but continue to buy 22lr for Steel Challenge. Good thing I was wearing a mask so they couldn't see the look on my face.
Exact same thing as the last ammo crunch -- they follow one another around town buying. And the thing of it is is that these grayhairs doing this (and uncertain as to how many are actually into firearms beyond just an opportunity to make a quick buck) only serves to turn off new shooters and jeopardize younger folks' continued 2A rights.
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GD80...Selling guns to buy bullets?
I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't even consider it.
Good news is, Now you are set for a little while. Next time you sell something to buy bullets - PM me. I am always looking for a good deal on guns.
RCG
What good is a car without gasoline? Or tires? Or brakes? Or a running engine?
I've sold guns to outfit existing guns with optics, lights, etc; acquire spare parts; and yes, stock up on ammo. Basically, my hobby/collection is at the disposal of growing my collection in the way that best meets my current needs...
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Basically, my hobby/collection is at the disposal of growing my collection in the way that best meets my current needs...
Same here.
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Selling CZs is blasphemy! CZ manufactured these pistols for you to buy them, they never intended them to be resold. It is just not part of the design. Glocks and Sigs and Berettas were designed to be resold because they knew that the buyers would not be satisfied with them.
This is the hard science of the matter folks. I came to these deductions in a lab while surrounded by scientists! :P
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Selling CZs is blasphemy! CZ manufactured these pistols for you to buy them, they never intended them to be resold. It is just not part of the design. Glocks and Sigs and Berettas were designed to be resold because they knew that the buyers would not be satisfied with them.
This is the hard science of the matter folks. I came to these deductions in a lab while surrounded by scientists! :P
;D ;D ;D Well I’m selling 2 Tanfoglios and a Jericho 941 Enhanced so will you still be my friend? ;D
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Selling CZs is blasphemy! CZ manufactured these pistols for you to buy them, they never intended them to be resold. It is just not part of the design. Glocks and Sigs and Berettas were designed to be resold because they knew that the buyers would not be satisfied with them.
This is the hard science of the matter folks. I came to these deductions in a lab while surrounded by scientists! :P
I was in the same lab as you. Where you there when I was one of the scientists?.....or when I was just in the lab?
RCG
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Basically, my hobby/collection is at the disposal of growing my collection in the way that best meets my current needs...
Same here.
gun shows are based on folks who think like this......I love gun shows.
RCG
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I have a local show coming up this next month. One of the main reasons for going is looking for ammo. I am lucky in a way in that I dont actually shoot alot outside of hunting, so the ammo I need for that is not depleted very much. I did a good job of stocking up on most calibers for home defense/shtf guns that I have, and have hardly scratched it. There are some calibers/gauges that I dont think you can ever have "too much" of, thats what Ill be looking for at the show....along with whatever "new toy" of opportunity might be there.
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Gave up on the NBA years ago, NFL a few years ago, and now MLB. More time for fishing and hunting so not a loss in my book. The redfish wanted to die Sunday morning, 2 nice 25/26 inch reds plus caught and released 5 more over 20, 10 or 12 trout released too. The boss lady caught 3 nice flounder and 10 trout. Pan sauteed flounder with a mixed green salad for dinner this evening.
FISH FRY AT RON M’s HOUSE!!! :D
You're going to have to meet me up at lake Livingston and help catch a bunch of white bass, crappie, and catfish if you want a fish fry.
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If some of you are saying there’s a .22 LR shortage I haven’t seen that in my area. I went to two Walmarts and one Academy yesterday and they all had a fair amount of .22 LR but barely any .22 Magnum.
22lr isn’t ravaged like 9mm yet, but if this follows the pattern of last shortages then it will be scarce and it will take longer to come back than the other calibers.
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You're going to have to meet me up at lake Livingston and help catch a bunch of white bass, crappie, and catfish if you want a fish fry.
Lake Livingston huh, no kidding? I have family from there. It’s a small town so you may know them, Sonny and Kay Dyke? They had four kids, Amory, John, Caleb and Cannon.
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If some of you are saying there’s a .22 LR shortage I haven’t seen that in my area. I went to two Walmarts and one Academy yesterday and they all had a fair amount of .22 LR but barely any .22 Magnum.
22lr isn’t ravaged like 9mm yet, but if this follows the pattern of last shortages then it will be scarce and it will take longer to come back than the other calibers.
Gotcha
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If some of you are saying there’s a .22 LR shortage I haven’t seen that in my area. I went to two Walmarts and one Academy yesterday and they all had a fair amount of .22 LR but barely any .22 Magnum.
22lr isn’t ravaged like 9mm yet, but if this follows the pattern of last shortages then it will be scarce and it will take longer to come back than the other calibers.
Maybe not in your area, but here people are standing in line for it
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These current ammo prices are going to put a serious crimp in gun prices IMO. On Gunbroker, 1000rds of 9mm Federal target ammo going for ~$650 delivered is hard to accept.
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My mistake was deciding on buying a CZ 75BD during the pandemi and rioting. Did not need it but wanted one. Got it at less than suggested retail. Ammo however was a whole other adventure in capitalism. After waiting for local supplies to be replenished, which were not and no sign they would be, I went to gunbroker and purchased 9mm. Hardball and jhp. There were a couple of fellows with buy it now pricing a little more reasonable than others. Buy once, cry once.
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My mistake was deciding on buying a CZ 75BD during the pandemi and rioting. Did not need it but wanted one. Got it at less than suggested retail. Ammo however was a whole other adventure in capitalism. After waiting for local supplies to be replenished, which were not and no sign they would be, I went to gunbroker and purchased 9mm. Hardball and jhp. There were a couple of fellows with buy it now pricing a little more reasonable than others. Buy once, cry once.
Better to have the adventure in capitalism than not have it available in socialism.
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My mistake was deciding on buying a CZ 75BD during the pandemi and rioting. Did not need it but wanted one. Got it at less than suggested retail. Ammo however was a whole other adventure in capitalism. After waiting for local supplies to be replenished, which were not and no sign they would be, I went to gunbroker and purchased 9mm. Hardball and jhp. There were a couple of fellows with buy it now pricing a little more reasonable than others. Buy once, cry once.
Better to have the adventure in capitalism than not have it available in socialism.
This is very true. Fortunately, I was buying when prices were around $.16 to $.18 a round.
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These current ammo prices are going to put a serious crimp in gun prices IMO. On Gunbroker, 1000rds of 9mm Federal target ammo going for ~$650 delivered is hard to accept.
Being out of ammo is harder to accept for me.
Thank goodness I don't need to buy any now.
America is a great country.....Togmaster nailed it
RCG
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REALLY widh i could find a Kadet kit for my P07 and P09!
I found a Kadet kit for my P07 days before everything shut down for $150 used. This is what I have been shooting for the most part since then.
Great find! Hope I can find a deal like this. No going to hold my breath with the way things are right now.
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If some of you are saying there’s a .22 LR shortage I haven’t seen that in my area. I went to two Walmarts and one Academy yesterday and they all had a fair amount of .22 LR but barely any .22 Magnum.
the shops in our area are empty of most common calibers. Even 22LR.
Some of the odd/expensive stuff can be found, but you wont be seeing someone panic buying those calibers or collector guns.
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These current ammo prices are going to put a serious crimp in gun prices IMO. On Gunbroker, 1000rds of 9mm Federal target ammo going for ~$650 delivered is hard to accept.
Being out of ammo is harder to accept for me.
Thank goodness I don't need to buy any now.
America is a great country.....Togmaster nailed it
RCG
Doubt ammo prices will crimp gun prices -- most are first time buyers. Current owners are buying the mags, spare parts, and ammo.
New shooters are just "getting a gun" to keep their family safe. They'll take it to the range once or maybe take a basic shooters course and buy a couple doo-dads, but for the most part they aren't shooting their guns -- they're just safety blankets.
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New shooters are just "getting a gun" to keep their family safe. They'll take it to the range once or maybe take a basic shooters course and buy a couple doo-dads, but for the most part they aren't shooting their guns -- they're just safety blankets.
Nailed it. What worries me is that the amount of new gun owners could make things more dangerous.
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Then consider reloading....
Read "Is Reloading For Me ?" in the Ammo & Handloading Forum stickies.
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Then consider reloading....
Read "Is Reloading For Me ?" in the Ammo & Handloading Forum stickies.
I mentioned previously that a friend of mine was gonna let me use his reloading equipment but I either couldn't find the supplies or the prices weren't worth it.
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New shooters are just "getting a gun" to keep their family safe. They'll take it to the range once or maybe take a basic shooters course and buy a couple doo-dads, but for the most part they aren't shooting their guns -- they're just safety blankets.
Nailed it. What worries me is that the amount of new gun owners could make things more dangerous.
you were a new gun owner once right?
being new doesn't make you irresponsible,
being irresponsible makes you irresponsible.
RCG
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New shooters are just "getting a gun" to keep their family safe. They'll take it to the range once or maybe take a basic shooters course and buy a couple doo-dads, but for the most part they aren't shooting their guns -- they're just safety blankets.
Nailed it. What worries me is that the amount of new gun owners could make things more dangerous.
you were a new gun owner once right?
being new doesn't make you irresponsible,
being irresponsible makes you irresponsible.
RCG
Oh for sure, I agree.
I didn't mean to imply that all new gun owners are irresponsible. It's just that there are quite bit more new gun owners and, let's face it, how many people take the time to learn their guns and practice shooting. Access to gun ranges, at least in my area, are a little pricey and some have closed.
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Then consider reloading....
Read "Is Reloading For Me ?" in the Ammo & Handloading Forum stickies.
I mentioned previously that a friend of mine was gonna let me use his reloading equipment but I either couldn't find the supplies or the prices weren't worth it.
Either way, 'being prepared' does require some preparation on your part. It starts with buying quantities when prices are low so you'll have surplus on hand to coast through the lean times.
But here's the difference... When you stockpile ammo... you only only have that exact ammo. But when you stockpile components... you can load anything you want. For instance, with my 0.356" bullets I can load for 9x17, 9x19, 9x21, 9x23, or 38Super cartridges. And I can load them for soft plinking or as hot as I like.
In other words, you have more flexibility and thus shooting options.
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New shooters are just "getting a gun" to keep their family safe. They'll take it to the range once or maybe take a basic shooters course and buy a couple doo-dads, but for the most part they aren't shooting their guns -- they're just safety blankets.
Nailed it. What worries me is that the amount of new gun owners could make things more dangerous.
you were a new gun owner once right?
being new doesn't make you irresponsible,
being irresponsible makes you irresponsible.
RCG
+1. In order to protect and restore our firearm freedoms, we need more gun owners not less. If you know any new firearm owners, do your best to mentor them in how to do so safely and responsibly.
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Took a new shooter out last week. He snagged a close out deal at Bass Pro on a Beretta APX. Great gun for $350ish. He was driving all over town looking for ammo and paying outrageous prices. Showed up with high dollar HD ammo just to learn to shoot! Tossed him a box of FMJ and saved the good stuff. Let him shoot a few mags with the a Scorpion. Oh, he is hooked!
FYI the APX was a nice handling gun once I realized the break on the trigger was 7ish??? pounds. I thought the safety was on!
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+1. In order to protect and restore our firearm freedoms, we need more gun owners not less. If you know any new firearm owners, do your best to mentor them in how to do so safely and responsibly.
No doubt. My Aunt bought her first gun ever and she did her fingerprints yesterday to get her CCL. My mother and father-in-law bought their first pistols ever, he’s always had rifles and shotguns. So we’re all gonna make a range trip soon. My Aunt is really excited. :)
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Unpopular opinion. I just dont buy ammo when its like this. I always have a few K rounds set aside, but when the ammo gets scarce I just dial down shooting for recreation.
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Unpopular opinion. I just dont buy ammo when its like this. I always have a few K rounds set aside, but when the ammo gets scarce I just dial down shooting for recreation.
Wise advice.
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The only thing which is both in stock at the online dealers and not priced ridiculously right now is Korean surplus .30 Carbine. Just ordered another 1080-round can.
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The only thing which is both in stock at the online dealers and not priced ridiculously right now is Korean surplus .30 Carbine. Just ordered another 1080-round can.
I picked up a couple of cans myself. It's good stuff and my WWII and newer Auto Ordnance M1 carbines like it.
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Unpopular opinion. I just dont buy ammo when its like this. I always have a few K rounds set aside, but when the ammo gets scarce I just dial down shooting for recreation.
Skills are perishable. Still need to shoot to train and stay sharp, even if not shooting "recreationally."
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Unpopular opinion. I just dont buy ammo when its like this. I always have a few K rounds set aside, but when the ammo gets scarce I just dial down shooting for recreation.
Skills are perishable. Still need to shoot to train and stay sharp, even if not shooting "recreationally."
There is never a substitution for the real thing. But dry fire and holster drills will keep the most important muscle memory active. I am just one person, so I am not changing anything but if most people would calm down stop hoarding ammo like it will never be produced again then we wouldn't have an issue to begin with. Truth is you have a lot of people stock piling tens of thousands of rounds of ammo and then continuing to stock pile and then flip it for a profit.
When it gets like this I turn to my boxes of .22 if I have to go shoot for fun or I dont shoot at all. I wont pay the prices any more.
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I'm shooting much less nowadays and am lucky that my dad taught me how to rathole ammo away. I swear, there were seldom times he would go to the stores and walk out without a box of ammo in his hand.
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I'm shooting much less nowadays and am lucky that my dad taught me how to rathole ammo away. I swear, there were seldom times he would go to the stores and walk out without a box of ammo in his hand.
Your dad sounds like a smart guy. When ammo sales return to some semblance of normal I will be doing the same.
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I'm shooting much less nowadays and am lucky that my dad taught me how to rathole ammo away. I swear, there were seldom times he would go to the stores and walk out without a box of ammo in his hand.
Your dad sounds like a smart guy. When ammo sales return to some semblance of normal I will be doing the same.
My Dad is the same, he says he has more than enough ammo for his remaining time on earth. Of course, he doesn't shoot a comparable volume to some of us here. He also has a wide assortment of calibers, many of them overlapping in application... something I try to keep to a minimum.
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If I didn’t have a decent reserve of 9mm target ammo, it would be cheaper to shoot my 10mm.
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Man, it’s crazy to think 9mm is more than 10mm.
Both 5.56 and 10mm are cheaper than 9mm Luger right now from my vantage point. If I wasn’t shooting in an indoor range, the AR would be getting a lot more love.
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Both 5.56 and 10mm are cheaper than 9mm Luger right now from my vantage point. If I wasn’t shooting in an indoor range, the AR would be getting a lot more love.
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I just can’t resist anymore. I’m gonna install the Franklin Armory binary trigger on my AR pistol this week and off-gas some 300 blackout. O0
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Found lots of 9mm sportsmans warehouse today, 12.50 foe American Eagle fmj but only two boxes allowed per day.So took my wife and two of my sons😜
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I paid .50 cents / each for steel case ammo on gun broker.
I suck
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I paid .50 cents / each for steel case ammo on gun broker.
I suck
Don’t feel bad. I wasn’t paying attention and paid too much for steel case 9mm too one day.
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Barnaul, 500 rounds. Didn’t know it had some steel in the core which is not allowed in most indoor ranges in NJ
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Don’t feel bad. I wasn’t paying attention and paid too much for steel case 9mm too one day.
Barnaul, 500 rounds. Didn’t know it had some steel in the core which is not allowed in most indoor ranges in NJ
Part of it is that many indoor ranges prohibit picking up brass, and collect and resell it themselves -- and don't want to have to pick out steel cases.
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I stopped at a gun shop today that had a box of WWB 9mm, 100rds. The box had been opened but seemed full. The top flap was torn, but they still wanted $60. for the box.
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I stopped at a gun shop today that had a box of WWB 9mm, 100rds. The box had been opened but seemed full. The top flap was torn, but they still wanted $60. for the box.
Yea, that would just make me mad and walk out >:(
I am glad I stocked up before Covid. I am just shooting my .22LR rounds and biding my time.
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I’ve just about had it with these ammo prices!!! (https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=112273.msg872956#msg872956)
(https://i.ibb.co/3ybLJ3S/panic.jpg) ;)
Would you like to hear some old-timer stories about the Panic Buys of '88, '89, '90, '92, '94, '00, '08, '10, '12, '16, & '18?
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I’ve just about had it with these ammo prices!!! (https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=112273.msg872956#msg872956)
(https://i.ibb.co/3ybLJ3S/panic.jpg) ;)
Would you like to hear some old-timer stories about the Panic Buys of '88, '89, '90, '92, '94, '00, '08, '10, '12, '16, & '18?
Yes sir this was my first panic buy and...No sir, I don't like it. ;D Fortunately I was able to get everything I felt I needed. I won't be caught off guard again if I can help it.
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Would you like to hear some old-timer stories about the Panic Buys of '88, '89, '90, '92, '94, '00, '08, '10, '12, '16, & '18?
I can't speak for the GCA era of the late 60's and the 80's really were nothing to speak of that I recall but even the crime bill/AWB era in 1994 wasn't anything like we've seen since the turn of the century. High cap mags became scarce in the 90's as they were banned so what had been massively produced before the ban were not always easily found and when you did you paid dearly for them. Reloading components were still easily acquired and primers even then averaged $10-$15 per thousand in my area. After 911 ammo prices went up some naturally but I never thought it was that bad. The Obama era is where things went off the rails and shortages appeared across the board especially ammo and reloading supplies. What we see today is the WORST it has ever been bar none. There are some guns to be had here in Northeast Ohio but ammo is scarce and most places limit purchases of what they have. Forget reloading supplies, I haven't seen small pistol or rifle primers in over 2 months. The local range I frequent will not sell handgun ammo to go at all now and will only sell it to a customer who plans to use the range in that moment. Prices even when they increased were never even close to as outrageous as they are now.
I'm very happy everytime I look at my ammo supply that I started reloading decades ago.
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I'm very happy every time I look at my ammo supply that I started reloading decades ago.
Exactly !
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I heard a guy stacked ammo so high once that it tipped over and fell on him. His last words were "this is the way". 8)
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cant find 9mm anywhere for under 20 a box
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cant find 9mm anywhere for under 20 a box
Academy is the only place I’ve managed to find it under $20 a box. But you gotta darn near camp out to get it.
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I just spent a small fortune for 500 10mm auto rounds.
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Currently I’ve sold five pistols to compensate for all the ammo I recently purchased. One of which was my second favorite pistol. I have to admit though, it kinda feels good to clean out the safe. I’m not a big fan of clutter anyway and the safe was getting pretty full. So far I brought in $3025 with a total profit of $375-$400. My view of guns seems to be shifting a little more toward owning stuff I can shoot versus safe queens. Even if I don’t shoot certain guns all the time, just knowing I can shoot them without guilt is good with me. I’m even considering selling a few more.
P.S. These ammo prices still suck. ;D
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Currently I’ve sold five pistols to compensate for all the ammo I recently purchased. One of which was my second favorite pistol. I have to admit though, it kinda feels good to clean out the safe. I’m not a big fan of clutter anyway and the safe was getting pretty full. So far I brought in $3025 with a total profit of $375-$400. My view of guns seems to be shifting a little more toward owning stuff I can shoot versus safe queens. Even if I don’t shoot certain guns all the time, just knowing I can shoot them without guilt is good with me. I’m even considering selling a few more.
P.S. These ammo prices still suck. ;D
I have a "Dont use it I lose it" Policy. For me if I don't have a utilitarian purpose for a gun its gone. They are tools after all.
My current collection:
Charles Daily Field 12: First gun I got when I was 16 (I shoot clay pigeons with it)
Remington Youth 20G: My custom built Turkey gun
CZ 455 Varmint Evolution: Precision .22 I use for squirrels and target shooting
Ruger SR22: Quick grab and go conceal carry during the height of summer heat
Ruger single ten in .22: dispatching possums and critters of the like with cci quiet rounds. also fun range toy
Dan Wesson ECO .45: A gift from a great friend, conceal carry option and a good range gun
CZ P10C: Got it for winter carry in heavier clothes, but also going to double for some production class shooting eventually
CZ Scorpion SBR/Supressed: My 50 yard and in home defense weapon
Wilson Combat AR build: my 200-300 yard gun (also the furthest range I have available in Florida)
My future purchases are... AK variant (to abuse with some 7.62) CZ Bren 2ms (when they work out the kinks for a supressed 7.62 platform) CZ P-09 (will be used as a shtf duty style pistol)
After that I really think I will be done with firearms for many many years.
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After that I really think I will be done with firearms for many many years.
Keep telling yourself that... ;D When the next “latest and greatest” comes along those gears will start turnin. ;)
I don’t think I’ll ever stop buying and trading guns. I’ll just try to stick mostly with things I can and want to shoot or things I can make money on.
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After that I really think I will be done with firearms for many many years.
Keep telling yourself that... ;D When the next “latest and greatest” comes along those gears will start turnin. ;)
I don’t think I’ll ever stop buying and trading guns. I’ll just try to stick mostly with things I can and want to shoot or things I can make money on.
Ain’t that the truth O0.
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Because everyone is worried about a permanent ammo shortage we’re paying these crazy prices. Hopefully things will get better.
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High cap mags became scarce in the 90's as they were banned so what had been massively produced before the ban were not always easily found and when you did you paid dearly for them.
Yep, paid $60 for a single ParaOrdnance 14 round 45acp mag back then......then spent additional $ have it hardchromed like it's two siblings.
Was unsure when/if ever they would be available again and it was a smart move, the new PO mags do not work in the older pistols.
On ammo, luckly I started stocking up on ammo years ago and that too was a good call. I hated paying .20¢/round for brass cased 5.56 Privi Partisan but stocked up.....
sorry
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On ammo, luckly I started stocking up on ammo years ago and that too was a good call. I hated paying .20¢/round for brass cased 5.56 Privi Partisan but stocked up.....
sorry
$0.20 per round would be a godsend right now. Hell, $0.50 per round would be too really. ;D :-\
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At these prices, why are folks still buying ammo to stockpile? The only reason to buy now is if you have absolutely nothing, otherwise, be happy that you have a few boxes or so.
FWIW, I informed my neighbors to save their money and that I will gladly supply them ammo in the event of an emergency. I spent a bunch of time clipping box codes for Federal's rebates a couple of years ago ;)
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Funny, just a few months ago, guys were saying 9mm and 223 was so cheap to buy that reloading just didn't make much sense.
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Funny, just a few months ago, guys were saying 9mm and 223 was so cheap to buy that reloading just didn't make much sense.
Some people are just hard headed.
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I have 10,000 9mm brass cleaned, deprimed and once fired and maybe 2,000 already primed.
3,000 5.56 brass, I would love to sale, but I don't want to mess with shipping. If someone wants to take a nice relaxing fall trip to Eastern KY and is not afraid of "Squealing like a pig" (i.e Deliverance) O0, we can talk a fair price.
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Found a great deal @ my LGS on Winchester Ranger Tactical Series 180gr .40 S&W for $39/50-round box. Couldn't resist picking up several of those. It's still a great time to be a .40 fan. ;)
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Funny, just a few months ago, guys were saying 9mm and 223 was so cheap to buy that reloading just didn't make much sense.
That was then, Ridiculously High Prices are now.
I have always been a Reloader, even when Ammunition was much less expensive.
I've stocked up on loading supplies and ammunition whenever possible because somehow I knew, back then, that these days would come.
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Ludicrous GunShow Ammo price of the day - 50 round boxes of FMJ .380 priced at $100 each :o
Wednesday it will be ~$16/box at Camping World when the shipment comes in.
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Ludicrous GunShow Ammo price of the day - 50 round boxes of FMJ .380 priced at $100 each :o
Wednesday it will be ~$16/box at Camping World when the shipment comes in.
RIDICULOUS!!! ;D ;D ;D
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and 10mm was cheaper than 9mm
And not surprisingly, I didn't buy any ammo today. I'll see what Wednesday brings.
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Ludicrous GunShow Ammo price of the day - 50 round boxes of FMJ .380 priced at $100 each :o
Wednesday it will be ~$16/box at Camping World when the shipment comes in.
RIDICULOUS!!! ;D ;D ;D
I can't think of a single good reason to attend a gun show.
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Ludicrous GunShow Ammo price of the day - 50 round boxes of FMJ .380 priced at $100 each :o
Wednesday it will be ~$16/box at Camping World when the shipment comes in.
RIDICULOUS!!! ;D ;D ;D
That’s price is ludicrous O0 ;D O0
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Ludicrous GunShow Ammo price of the day - 50 round boxes of FMJ .380 priced at $100 each :o
Wednesday it will be ~$16/box at Camping World when the shipment comes in.
RIDICULOUS!!! ;D ;D ;D
I can't think of a single good reason to attend a gun show.
The Target Guy and the Damascus Steel Knife Guys were the ones who got my money. Sometimes this show has an actual Microtech dealer for my DA-OTF fix.
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Funny, just a few months ago, guys were saying 9mm and 223 was so cheap to buy that reloading just didn't make much sense.
That was then, Ridiculously High Prices are now.
I have always been a Reloader, even when Ammunition was much less expensive.
I've stocked up on loading supplies and ammunition whenever possible because somehow I knew, back then, that these days would come.
It just happen so regularly now, so many events that affect our gun purchase behavior, unfavorable gun laws, hearth quakes, pandemics, mass shootings, riots, the Kardashians, and the one we haven't foreseen yet. That is why we should all stock up during good times and become reloaders.
The worst could be yet to come. Imagine the Presidency and the Senate turning liberal in November, it is a very possible outcome. If this happens, I can guaranty all gun shops and gun supplies will be totally empty within 24 hours, and if we are crying when seeing a 50 rounds box of 380 going for $100, it will probably double that price, and someone will buy it for sure. But that would just be the beginning, Congress won't be on our side any longer, we will see many new Federal gun regulations. We are in trouble (Sorry, I didn't really want to bring politic into the picture, but just as an example of all we could be dealing with).
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It just happen so regularly now, so many events that affect our gun purchase behavior, unfavorable gun laws, hearth quakes, pandemics, mass shootings, riots, the Kardashians, and the one we haven't foreseen yet. That is why we should all stock up during good times and become reloaders.
The worst could be yet to come. Imagine the Presidency and the Senate turning liberal in November, it is a very possible outcome. If this happens, I can guaranty all gun shops and gun supplies will be totally empty within 24 hours, and if we are crying when seeing a 50 rounds box of 380 going for $100, it will probably double that price, and someone will buy it for sure. But that would just be the beginning, Congress won't be on our side any longer, we will see many new Federal gun regulations. We are in trouble (Sorry, I didn't really want to bring politic into the picture, but just as an example of all we could be dealing with).
Yeah, definitely don’t wanna make it too political. We don’t want topics to get shut down. I don’t mean that to sound preachy or anything.
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I was at a gun show today and the best prices I saw on 9mm reloads was $.50 a shot. .223 was $1+ a shot. Sucks...
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Gun shows arent what they used to be, but I will say that smaller local shows are better than the larger shows in larger cities....or so it has seemed to me. As for a reason to attend, being able to buy something private sale is certainly reason enough. Have one coming up on Halloween day, and I will be there unless something comes up. It will be the last show in my area before the election, and Im afraid prices my skyrocket after that- as if they werent high enough already.
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I was at a gun show today and the best prices I saw on 9mm reloads was $.50 a shot. .223 was $1+ a shot. Sucks...
if someone does buy at those prices the gun show worked for the guy selling, maybe not for you or your buddies but it is open to the public and if the public pays the price, it becomes the price.
You don't have to like it and you don't have to buy at that number. But you may have to choose between that number and carrying a bat one day soon. I wont get political but it is the goal of one of the 4 candidates in this Pres VP thing going on.
RCG
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Yes yes, I’m jealous GMork. :o 8)
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I was at my local Cabela's today and bought 500 rds. of Herters 9mm ammo for $119.99+tax.
They had 1000 rd. boxes of 55gr. 5.56 for $429.99. Winchester.
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I have a "Dont use it I lose it" Policy. For me if I don't have a utilitarian purpose for a gun its gone. They are tools after all.
This is the thought I came to after 9/11 - consolidation of calibers and types that I liked and used well (1911's in .45 and AR's in 5.56).
My Bren 805 is really my only deviation to that policy in the last 20 years, but it's 5.56 - takes AR mags - and performs more reliably than a finicky (gassed) AR pistol, which is why I went with it for that role.
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Primers are always my downfall - I buy a bunch...then load and shoot 'em all! Lower my consumption to 2008 levels, I can probably keep skills up for another year just fine, then I will start to get nervous. Also just got back in to black powder, but even caps are hard to come by.
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Primers are the long pole in the tent.
There is brass around (e.g., at the range) and it can be collected and re-used. There is some powder around, and I've got a lot stored around here somewhere. I can find bullets -- 9mm plated are available directly from places like XTreme.
But 100% of primer production is going directly to the major ammo producers right now (I read in the NRA article on the ammo shortage). I've seen primers going for auction on ***Broker.com for around $.50 a piece, presumably from left-over stocks. I wonder where the inexpensive foreign-made primers are? I would violate my "buy America" rule to buy some small pistol primers.
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I wonder where the inexpensive foreign-made primers are? I would violate my "buy America" rule to buy some small pistol primers.
Out of Stock, everywhere! I do like the Magtech Primers, if I can't get Winchester or Federal. Winchester/Olin Engineers actually set up the Primer Factory in Brazil for Magtech.
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I wonder where the inexpensive foreign-made primers are? I would violate my "buy America" rule to buy some small pistol primers.
Out of Stock, everywhere! I do like the Magtech Primers, if I can't get Winchester or Federal. Winchester/Olin Engineers actually set up the Primer Factory in Brazil for Magtech.
Got 1000 SR primers at Bass Pro last week. Date stamp shows they were made 11/19/20. $44. They had more, but limit was 1000.
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I’m literally selling guns to buy 300 blackout target and self defense ammo! >:( A friend of mine said he’d let me use his reloading tools if I bought the supplies but we can’t even find supplies. :-\
Biden gun control sucks!
PLANdemic sucks too!
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1000? My nearest store with primers has a limit of 100 primers a day per customer. Going to take a long time to build up stock that way...
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TIME for a bump!
I was in a BIG shop just west of Pittsburgh last Saturday - NICE selection of firearms, and prices ARE dropping on those. M193 though? STILL a buck a round, with a few hundred rounds on display. :(
Hows the ammo sitrep in your AO? Anyone FINDING some good deals - LGS or on-line - yet?
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My local Academy is back to good stock and decent prices on most but 300 blackout and other hard to get stuff is still high. Also they’re now allowing a 4 box limit instead of 2.
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Yeah I need to start going and checking with Academy again. Most of the promotional emails I get from online vendors seem to still be high priced, or shipping is really high.
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Speaking of Academy......I dropped by my local one after lunch today. They had a whole shelf full of Norma Tac-22 22lr. That is definitely quality ammo, but at $9.99 for a box of 50......not so much!
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Yeah, prices are still elevated, more so at some places than others.
Stopped by a large LGS yesterday who has not had primers in stock for a year. They had at least 100 bricks of them on the shelf. No small pistol, but pretty much everything else. A little pricey (I didn't buy any), but it's a good sign.
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Speaking of Academy......I dropped by my local one after lunch today. They had a whole shelf full of Norma Tac-22 22lr. That is definitely quality ammo, but at $9.99 for a box of 50......not so much!
You in Jax? I went by one yesterday and had same thoughts.
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My local Cabelas gets shipments of primers what seems like once a month including SPP. I think things are getting better.
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357 Magnole........This Academy is in West Melbourne, FL. I would have bought some at 4.99 a box, but it can gather dust at 9.99. They did have a ton of it.
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If anyone thinks pre-plandemic pricing is going to return you will be sadly mistaken. If you don't need ammo at this point then that's good but if there is anything you'd like to stock up on I'd bite the bullet (pun intended) and get some of it now. Just as long as the obidenton administration continues to beat the anti gun drum prices are going to stay inflated. Yes some roll back has been noted but the days of $159 a case 9mm are probably lost forever.
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If anyone thinks pre-plandemic pricing is going to return you will be sadly mistaken. If you don't need ammo at this point then that's good but if there is anything you'd like to stock up on I'd bite the bullet (pun intended) and get some of it now. Just as long as the obidenton administration continues to beat the anti gun drum prices are going to stay inflated. Yes some roll back has been noted but the days of $159 a case 9mm are probably lost forever.
Probably. Labor costs, material costs, building new machinery and factories all will add to the bottom line. But, given enough time, it might get close. We will see.
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I remember the ammo and reloading component drought back in 2012. This was a shortage resulting from the political climate following that school shooting. Eventually, prices normalized. Meaning that I was able to stock up on primers at $30 a brick, as an example. This shortage is much the same......Political climate exacerbated by a breakdown in law and order in certain communities. Citizens that believed that their only responsibility for their personal protection was to dial 911, were seriously rethinking that concept. Hence the unprecedented demand for guns and ammo. Now will prices drop to pre-Covid levels. Perhaps not, as inflation of our currency is being fueled by political climate. I am also wary of forms of “back door” gun control ie. taxes and regulations, that will add to cost. Time will tell.
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Time will tell, fellow Floridian.
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If anyone thinks pre-plandemic pricing is going to return you will be sadly mistaken. If you don't need ammo at this point then that's good but if there is anything you'd like to stock up on I'd bite the bullet (pun intended) and get some of it now. Just as long as the obidenton administration continues to beat the anti gun drum prices are going to stay inflated. Yes some roll back has been noted but the days of $159 a case 9mm are probably lost forever.
Probably. Labor costs, material costs, building new machinery and factories all will add to the bottom line. But, given enough time, it might get close. We will see.
Not to mention loss of competition when Federal acquired Remington's ammo business.
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My lgs is doing $600 for 1000 9mm rounds. That at least seems sane. They had about a dozen 1000 rd crates. At least it's in stock. Hopefully the prices soften a bit more.
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If anyone thinks pre-plandemic pricing is going to return you will be sadly mistaken. If you don't need ammo at this point then that's good but if there is anything you'd like to stock up on I'd bite the bullet (pun intended) and get some of it now. Just as long as the obidenton administration continues to beat the anti gun drum prices are going to stay inflated. Yes some roll back has been noted but the days of $159 a case 9mm are probably lost forever.
Probably. Labor costs, material costs, building new machinery and factories all will add to the bottom line. But, given enough time, it might get close. We will see.
Not to mention loss of competition when Federal acquired Remington's ammo business.
That goes both ways though. Like Sig building a new ammo facility in Ark, and saying they will start making their own primers. Whoever was supplying those primers for them will likely be dumping them on the consumer market, once Sig no longer needs them.
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My lgs is doing $600 for 1000 9mm rounds. That at least seems sane. They had about a dozen 1000 rd crates. At least it's in stock. Hopefully the prices soften a bit more.
At the very start of the ammo price hike I bought a 1000 round case of federal 115 grain FMJ for $389. That’s expensive but $600, is CRAZY town prices. But that was topped when I saw the same 1000 round case of Federal and others go for $800-$900. BAT-SCHIT-CRAZY town!!! :'(
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The local Walmart by me still getting in batches at pre pandemic prices
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The local Walmart by me still getting in batches at pre pandemic prices
Wait Walmart?! Every Walmart I’ve been in since January has been completely empty of ammo. Nobody will even buy the guns they have in stock.
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The local Walmart by me still getting in batches at pre pandemic prices
Wait Walmart?! Every Walmart I’ve been in since January has been completely empty of ammo. Nobody will even buy the guns they have in stock.
Yupp I have three close to me. Have got .22 short subsonics, 7mm mag, .30-06, .22lr, .22-250
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The local Walmart by me still getting in batches at pre pandemic prices
Wait Walmart?! Every Walmart I’ve been in since January has been completely empty of ammo. Nobody will even buy the guns they have in stock.
Yupp I have three close to me. Have got .22 short subsonics, 7mm mag, .30-06, .22lr, .22-250
I agree. A couple of Walmart’s in my area still have some of those .22LRand are cheaper than the academy store cross my subdivision.
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I agree. A couple of Walmart’s in my area still have some of those .22LRand are cheaper than the Academy store cross my subdivision.
Just stopped in. Got a 100 rounds of 12 gauge target and a .308 for $17.49 a box
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Primers are starting to trickle in. My local CAL Ranch store is selling CCI 500 SPP for $5.99 a box of 100. before the plandemic it was $3.99 a box, so the increase is almost normal. Limit one box per day, but I'll work with it, since I can't find them anywhere else. I have seen Bruno's post emails saying primers in stock, walk in's only, but they tend to charge dear. MidwayUSA sent me notices on CCI#41 SRP available three days running, but by the time I got TO the website, they were bye bye. Oh well, still getting better, slowly.
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Nice to hear they are even showing up in Cali. Primers are getting almost easy to find in my area. SP still goes pretty fast, but you can commonly find pretty much anything else right now. Wife and I scored 4K of CCI SP Saturday. I need to stop though, and wait for lower prices. I'm kind of primer rich right now.
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I was just at bruno's and they wanted 100 per k for cci450s and 120 per k for cci41s. They also had federal large rifle for 100 per k.
I couldn't pay those prices. I did spend 35 per pound on cfe223.
I'm hoping prices and supply continue to improve.
Cheers,
Toby
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I just sucked it up and spent $65 for 80 rounds (4 boxes) of Monarch 145gr steel case 300 BLK. >:( I want to sight in my new SIG ROMEO5XDR and really wanted to shoot anyway. Just sucks to pay $14.99 a box for Monarch. Oh well, tiz-what-it-tiz I guess. :-\
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I was just at bruno's and they wanted 100 per k for cci450s and 120 per k for cci41s. They also had federal large rifle for 100 per k.
Ouch. It sure is nice to have a Bass Pro in town. I've never seen them charge more than retail for ammo or primers, even during this shortage. And they have usually been under retail.
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When time travel is perfected, I'm taking you whipper snappers back to 1991, so you can buy a box of Norinco .223 (brass-cased) and steel core 7.62x39 for $.99/box o' 20 for yourselves!
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When time travel is perfected, I'm taking you whipper snappers back to 1991, so you can buy a box of Norinco .223 (brass-cased) and steel core 7.62x39 for $.99/box o' 20 for yourselves!
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When time travel is perfected, I'm taking you whipper snappers back to 1991, so you can buy a box of Norinco .223 (brass-cased) and steel core 7.62x39 for $.99/box o' 20 for yourselves!
I was there. Wouldn't buy that chin junk then anymore than I'd buy that crap now. But at least back then the quality stuff was reasonably priced. Primers were still $5.99/1000 and powder was about the same per pound.
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I was there. Wouldn't buy that chin junk then anymore than I'd buy that crap now. But at least back then the quality stuff was reasonably priced. Primers were still $5.99/1000 and powder was about the same per pound.
Except back then we didn't realize just how reasonable it was...
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Some of us saw it coming. I'm not affected nearly as bad by the cost of ammo and reloading components like so many others are. I stocked up for a rainy day.
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Some of us saw it coming. I'm not affected nearly as bad by the cost of ammo and reloading components like so many others are. I stocked up for a rainy day.
I said it before and I’ll say it again, lesson learned the hard way for me.
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When time travel is perfected, I'm taking you whipper snappers back to 1991, so you can buy a box of Norinco .223 (brass-cased) and steel core 7.62x39 for $.99/box o' 20 for yourselves!
I was there. Wouldn't buy that chin junk then anymore than I'd buy that crap now. But at least back then the quality stuff was reasonably priced. Primers were still $5.99/1000 and powder was about the same per pound.
Norinco .223 ran pretty well in my equally cheap PWA - HBAR back then. 7.62 stuff ran well in my polytech AK & norinco mak-90 & sks. No dirtier than Privi or Igman as I recall.
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When time travel is perfected, I'm taking you whipper snappers back to 1991, so you can buy a box of Norinco .223 (brass-cased) and steel core 7.62x39 for $.99/box o' 20 for yourselves!
I was there. Wouldn't buy that chin junk then anymore than I'd buy that crap now. But at least back then the quality stuff was reasonably priced. Primers were still $5.99/1000 and powder was about the same per pound.
Norinco .223 ran pretty well in my equally cheap PWA - HBAR back then. 7.62 stuff ran well in my polytech AK & norinco mak-90 & sks. No dirtier than Privi or Igman as I recall.
You miss the point here. I don't care how good it runs if I have an option to avoid CHICOM garbage I will every time and I'll pay more if I have to in avoidance. When I think of cheena I think "Let's go Brandon"
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When time travel is perfected, I'm taking you whipper snappers back to 1991, so you can buy a box of Norinco .223 (brass-cased) and steel core 7.62x39 for $.99/box o' 20 for yourselves!
highly unlikely - I doubt the Norinco and China Sports .223 is any better than their terrible 7.62x39mm. When I tried that garbage in a Russian SKS, at 25 yards it couldn't keep the impacts on an 18x24" piece of cardboard at 25m. In comparison, the hunting PSP ammo I was going to use that day to sight in the optic on my Mini-30 was 10 rounds into less than 2" under the same conditions.
The only ammo I've ever bought worse than Norinco/China Sports was some 1950s production S&B 7.63x25 Mauser. It failed to fire at all on about 25% of the ammo and had a 1-2 second hang-fire on another 25% of the rounds.
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I have to keep feeding my CZ's, and factory new, brass cased 9mm ammo appears to have stabilized in the $17-$19 a box range. I'm not sure if prices will drop much more due to the inflation surge.
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How many of ya'll loaded up on 9mm Speer Gold Dots and federal HST's when they were @ $350.00/1000rds to your door?
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I have roughly 500 rounds of the HST’s.