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Title: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: boxer4u on January 05, 2019, 06:40:09 PM
Just saw Stuart post this on a Facebook group.  I had to grab one to go with my Shadowline Compact.  You don?t see these everyday and I?m wondering if these have ever been in the states.  Unique hammer on these Shadowline pistols and I must say the SA on my Shadowline Compact is phenomenal.

SKU 91168

(https://i.imgur.com/jRpYhWj.jpg)

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Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: pt99af on January 05, 2019, 08:48:27 PM
Good looking pistol!
Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: Psyop96 on January 06, 2019, 06:59:29 AM
Nice pick up. I think one of the full sized models came in not too long after the SL release (2012/2013?) in Europe. I also seem to recall that it was CZC that offered them. Stuart would know.
Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: Earl Keese on January 06, 2019, 08:19:47 AM
I remember seeing a Shadowline full-size w/o rail on the CZC website several years back.
Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: boxer4u on January 06, 2019, 08:32:09 AM
Yes, there was a CZ 75 Shadowline that came in sometime ago, but I believe this is the first for the SP01.

I was actually in the market for a SP01 Shadow when this hit the shelves.  Was kinda torn between this and a regular Shadow, but those are always available...
Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: Scotty_0907 on January 06, 2019, 12:38:46 PM
A great looking pistol for sure! I'm sure it's not going to disappoint.
Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: anonymouscuban on January 06, 2019, 05:57:19 PM
What is the difference between this variant and a vanilla SP-01? Other than the obvious like grips and sights.

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Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: boxer4u on January 06, 2019, 11:04:31 PM
What is the difference between this variant and a vanilla SP-01? Other than the obvious like grips and sights.

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Vanilla SP01?  I?m not sure what that is... LOL
Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: anonymouscuban on January 06, 2019, 11:10:36 PM
What is the difference between this variant and a vanilla SP-01? Other than the obvious like grips and sights.

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Vanilla SP01?  I?m not sure what that is... LOL
Haha. Just the standard safety version of the SP-01. Not the tactical or shadow. Just plain SP-01.

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Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: IDescribe on January 06, 2019, 11:16:33 PM
I got my ShadowLine in May 2013.  I do not know how early I was in line, but they had not been in country all that long.

CZCustom brought in the 75 ShadowLine and the ShadowLine Compact. 

At that time, the SP-01 ShadowLine was in Canada, but not the U.S.

Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: IDescribe on January 06, 2019, 11:22:17 PM
What is the difference between this variant and a vanilla SP-01?

Any Shadow variant has no firing pin block and a better hammer.

ShadowLines have some common parts upgrades over a non-Shadow, like an even better hammer (still not as good as CZC hammer), low profile safeties (I replaced mine with standard), a CZ-85 trigger, and maybe a couple of other things.  My list is surely not exhaustive.

Of course, you could go look at the gun on the CZC website.  I am sure the differences are outlined.

Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: anonymouscuban on January 06, 2019, 11:26:35 PM
What is the difference between this variant and a vanilla SP-01?

Any Shadow variant has no firing pin block and a better hammer.

ShadowLines have some common parts upgrades over a non-Shadow, like an even better hammer (still not as good as CZC hammer), low profile safeties (I replaced mine with standard), a CZ-85 trigger, and maybe a couple of other things.  My list is surely not exhaustive.

Of course, you could go look at the gun on the CZC website.  I am sure the differences are outlined.
Thanks. I will check out the website. We can't get any of the Tactical or Shadow line variants here in Commiefornia. Well, you can buy from a private party, say they moved here with one from another state l. But they come at a premium. A Shadow 2, for example, typically sells within minutes of being posted for $2000-2200. I have seen the TSO go for $2500.

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Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: IDescribe on January 06, 2019, 11:52:11 PM
Sounds like I need to sell my ShadowLine next time I go to Cali.  😉
Title: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: Psyop96 on January 07, 2019, 10:48:54 AM
What is the difference between this variant and a vanilla SP-01? Other than the obvious like grips and sights.

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This article has been posted before but worth trotting out whenever there is a question about the Shadow Lines. It is written by the author of the comprehensive book (in Czech), Legenda Jm?nem CZ. Seems that CZUB was looking to provide a bit of factory fine tuning to the standard models for the European client base.
http://www.smallarmsreview.com/display.article.cfm?idarticles=2206
Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: Earl Keese on January 07, 2019, 02:31:02 PM
How does this Shadowline compare to the standard Sp-01 Shadow?
Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: BG ARMORY on January 07, 2019, 08:28:51 PM
What is the difference between this variant and a vanilla SP-01? Other than the obvious like grips and sights.

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looks like a shadow 2 grip profile with everything else being sp01 based....
Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: retteryer on January 07, 2019, 09:39:39 PM
Trigger,hammer,safety may be.
Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: IDescribe on January 08, 2019, 08:15:41 AM
Okay, so with some of the shooting sports in Europe, PRODUCTION means just that -- almost out of the box configuration.  People in USPSA are allowed to make all sort of mods to game up their so-called "production" guns that are not allowed in IPSC elsewhere in the world.

The ShadowLines are Shadows with some popular parts swaps/upgrades, but because CZ is installing the parts at the factory, it's still "Production" -- that is all these are.  Shadows with a few swaps of small parts.
Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: anonymouscuban on January 08, 2019, 10:06:18 AM
Okay, so with some of the shooting sports in Europe, PRODUCTION means just that -- almost out of the box configuration.  People in USPSA are allowed to make all sort of mods to game up their so-called "production" guns that are not allowed in IPSC elsewhere in the world.

The ShadowLines are Shadows with some popular parts swaps/upgrades, but because CZ is installing the parts at the factory, it's still "Production" -- that is all these are.  Shadows with a few swaps of small parts.
If I'm not mistaken, Shadow Line is SAO and therefore cannot be used in Production class.

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Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: IDescribe on January 08, 2019, 08:19:09 PM
If I'm not mistaken, Shadow Line is SAO and therefore cannot be used in Production class.

You are mistaken.  ;)

DA/SA
Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: anonymouscuban on January 08, 2019, 09:06:52 PM
If I'm not mistaken, Shadow Line is SAO and therefore cannot be used in Production class.

You are mistaken.  ;)

DA/SA
That's why I qualified my assertion. I get these SP01 variants mixed. Maybe it's the Tactical Sport that is SAO.

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Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: IDescribe on January 08, 2019, 09:54:51 PM
Tac Sport and TSOrange are SAO. 

Other CZs that are SAO are typical noted in model name with "SA"
Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: anonymouscuban on January 08, 2019, 09:56:25 PM
Tac Sport and TSOrange are SAO. 

Other CZs that are SAO are typical noted in model name with "SA"
Thanks. All these custom variants just add to an already confusing CZ line up.

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Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: Earl Keese on January 08, 2019, 10:35:00 PM
Okay, so with some of the shooting sports in Europe, PRODUCTION means just that -- almost out of the box configuration.  People in USPSA are allowed to make all sort of mods to game up their so-called "production" guns that are not allowed in IPSC elsewhere in the world.

The ShadowLines are Shadows with some popular parts swaps/upgrades, but because CZ is installing the parts at the factory, it's still "Production" -- that is all these are.  Shadows with a few swaps of small parts.
So are all of the standard Shadows assembled by CZ Customs?
Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: boxer4u on January 08, 2019, 10:39:21 PM
Okay, so with some of the shooting sports in Europe, PRODUCTION means just that -- almost out of the box configuration.  People in USPSA are allowed to make all sort of mods to game up their so-called "production" guns that are not allowed in IPSC elsewhere in the world.

The ShadowLines are Shadows with some popular parts swaps/upgrades, but because CZ is installing the parts at the factory, it's still "Production" -- that is all these are.  Shadows with a few swaps of small parts.
So are all of the standard Shadows assembled by CZ Customs?


No, most shadows are assembled by CZ.  When CZ Custom does custom work, they usually come up with a new SKU unless you send them your own shadow.
Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: Earl Keese on January 08, 2019, 10:42:30 PM
Okay, so with some of the shooting sports in Europe, PRODUCTION means just that -- almost out of the box configuration.  People in USPSA are allowed to make all sort of mods to game up their so-called "production" guns that are not allowed in IPSC elsewhere in the world.

The ShadowLines are Shadows with some popular parts swaps/upgrades, but because CZ is installing the parts at the factory, it's still "Production" -- that is all these are.  Shadows with a few swaps of small parts.
So are all of the standard Shadows assembled by CZ Customs?


No, most shadows are assembled by CZ.  When CZ Custom does custom work, they usually come up with a new SKU unless you send them your own shadow.
Then what makes the Shadowline different, other than a few parts? IDescribe mentions parts installed by CZ to be production legal. If std Shadows are built by CZ, why aren't they ipsc legal as well?

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Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: Swamp ash on January 09, 2019, 12:02:01 AM
I have a 75 Shadow Line (91166). It's a great pistol with a really nice trigger.

I'm not sure the 75 models sold particularly well. I bought it new at a discounted price, several years ago.
Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: IDescribe on January 09, 2019, 07:21:26 AM

Then what makes the Shadowline different, other than a few parts? IDescribe mentions parts installed by CZ to be production legal. If std Shadows are built by CZ, why aren't they ipsc legal as well?


Nothing makes the Shadowline different but for a few parts.

Standard Shadows are IPSC legal.  It's mods that aren't.  So if you have a Shadow for production, but you like that CZ-85 trigger, like so many people do, you can't use your 85 trigger on the Shadow. In USPSA those sorts of modifications are fine.  In IPSC they are not.

So the ShadowLine pistols are Shadows with a few factory mods so that they can be used in IPSC.  The ShadowLine got distributed to the U.S. during the 2012-2013 Shadow Shortage when there weren't enough Shadows available to meet U.S. demand.
Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: Earl Keese on January 09, 2019, 07:24:57 AM

Then what makes the Shadowline different, other than a few parts? IDescribe mentions parts installed by CZ to be production legal. If std Shadows are built by CZ, why aren't they ipsc legal as well?


Nothing makes the Shadowline different but for a few parts.

Standard Shadows are IPSC legal.  It's mods that aren't.  So if you have a Shadow for production, but you like that CZ-85 trigger, like so many people do, you can't use your 85 trigger on the Shadow. In USPSA those sorts of modifications are fine.  In IPSC they are not.

So the ShadowLine pistols are Shadows with a few factory mods so that they can be used in IPSC.  The ShadowLine got distributed to the U.S. during the 2012-2013 Shadow Shortage when there weren't enough Shadows available to meet U.S. demand.
Thank you, that clears it up. A Shadow with popular mods installed by CZ. I previously thought the Shadowline was a lower end Shadow.

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Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: dbarn on January 09, 2019, 04:14:12 PM
Thank you, that clears it up. A Shadow with popular mods installed by CZ. I previously thought the Shadowline was a lower end Shadow.

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My thoughts were the Shadowline meant the pistol had an aluminum frame. Guess not.
Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: boxer4u on January 09, 2019, 06:15:25 PM
My thoughts were the Shadowline meant the pistol had an aluminum frame. Guess not.


Only the Compact Shadowline has an aluminum frame
Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: Dogman1 on July 20, 2019, 09:31:26 AM
I’m really thinking this may be my next purchase. Does this have anything more then a tactical model??
Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: Dogman1 on July 20, 2019, 04:22:26 PM
Thank you, that clears it up. A Shadow with popular mods installed by CZ. I previously thought the Shadowline was a lower end Shadow.


What parts are different??
Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: Swamp ash on July 23, 2019, 10:55:26 AM
What parts are different??

Different hammer; 85C trigger; thin aluminum grips; thin safety; no FPB; [plus two nickel-plated 17 round mags}

I have a 75 Shadow line - the trigger is really very nice. It's an excellent pistol straight from the box.
Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: badwrench on July 24, 2019, 11:03:57 AM
I have one of these, I actually wanted a Shadowline compact from the last batch earlier this spring, but, missed that boat by a week or so.. So, I ordered one of these instead..It did'nt dissapoint. I changed the grips to some LOK full checkered palm swell grips, the aluminium grips that come with it look cool, but feel like you're gripping a 2x4, flat and blocky feeling, the LOKs fixed that. The very first time I took it out I could easily tear the bull out at 10yds, the sights needed no adjustment. You don't see these pistols very often and from what I can find out,CZ dosen't import very many, mine is marked as being made in 2016,  so, it sat around for awhile. What's interesting is the CZ rep was in my LGS,  one time, and I showed this to him, and he was completely unaware that CZ made these.. In fact he tried to tell me that it was a CZC custom gun, and not a production gun.
Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: Dogman1 on August 29, 2019, 12:52:56 AM
Anything new on these ?


Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: maleante on October 22, 2020, 11:55:08 PM
Does anyone know the width of the shadowline hammer? Is it the standard shadow fat width or the skinny 75b style?
Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: rbuzz00 on October 23, 2020, 10:41:17 AM
I have one of the CZ 75 Shadowline Compacts and the hammer measures .314 inches in width. Beautiful gun.

Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: falar on October 23, 2020, 01:51:10 PM
Does anyone know the width of the shadowline hammer? Is it the standard shadow fat width or the skinny 75b style?

Fat like any Shadow
Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: Dogman1 on December 14, 2022, 08:51:00 PM
Still looking for what seems like forever for one of these to show up on an auction site. A rare one
Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: rbuzz00 on December 16, 2022, 06:23:36 PM
Wow, this is an old thread.  It brings up unpleasant memories of how I screwed up.

I purchased the Shadow Line compact and absolutely love it. I remember thinking about getting the Shadow Line SP-01 and the Shadow Line CZ 75 to go along with the Shadow Line compact in order to complete the entire Shadow Line collection, but didn't. There were other firearms that I was more interested in at the time so I only purchased the one that I was my favorite and  never acted on the other two versions. 

Now, looking back I realize that I should have gone ahead and picked up the other two versions.  It's not that the Shadow Line is the ultimate CZ, but it is a particularly appealing model and then there is that limited production thing that appeals to me.
Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: Dogman1 on November 07, 2023, 08:17:27 AM
I’ve been lusting and wanting this model for years. What would be the closest pistol that CZ makes now that is like the 91168?
Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: rbuzz00 on November 07, 2023, 10:58:13 AM
I'm not completely up with all of CZs current models they change so often, but I suppose you could take a CZ 75 Compact, add some upgraded internal parts and come up with something close, but then you would not have the full length dust cover, nor the aluminum frame, nor the aluminum grips.

There is the CZ 75 SP01 Shadow which would be fairly close, but is the full size version and it has a steel frame.

Or you could just hope that a used Shadowline compact shows up for sale, and in the meantime buy the latest and greatest version, the CZ Shadow 2 Compact. In my opinion, that is the modern day version of the Shadowline.  It has pretty much identical features of the Shadowline, but has the upgraded Shadow 2 style frame and an optic cut. You can't go wrong with the S2C IMO.
Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: Pierce Koontz on November 29, 2023, 06:36:25 PM
Curious to know if the slide-to-frame fit is a bit tighter than normal.  Kinda like the Orange series
Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: schutz85C on November 30, 2023, 12:19:29 AM
I have seen sp01 shadows in excellent condition sell for dirt cheap on various forum classifieds. I don't live in a free state,so I could not buy.
Put a cajun race hammer and SA trigger to max it out beyond shadowline.

Even online gun stores sell them cheap. Do the research!
Title: Re: NEW SP01 Shadowline 91168
Post by: newageroman on December 11, 2023, 11:10:01 AM
Zombie Gun thread made me think there was a new model - and that people were still allowed to sell guns on Faschistbook - LOL...

I’ve been lusting and wanting this model for years. What would be the closest pistol that CZ makes now that is like the 91168?
in response to this ^^^ I'm not sure but the S2 Orange would be a good start. I have some CZC stuff and I will say that the machining and fitment of the slide are cleaner/smoother than you would most likely find in stock SP-01. I've always loved building vs buying so I would also push to the buy a stock SP-01 and Cajunize it yourself for cheap.

I personally like the Bull Shadow line vs the S2 line. enjoy and pics when it happens!