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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => Compact CZ 75s => Topic started by: dstan9615 on January 26, 2019, 05:48:13 PM
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Have these issues been resolved? Has CZ addressed this? New to the forum and considering purchasing one. Thank you.
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I haven't seen anyone complain about them in awhile now.
I have two. An early Urban Gray model and a black one I bought last year. No issues with either - but I run the safeties.
The issues I remember people having were with the decocking levers installed.
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I have one of the " problem guns " and it's still a great gun . Mine and ( as far as I tell ) all of the problem guns were 2017 production and it seems CZ has fixed the issue . I'll probably be buying another P01 Omega this year for my wife so I can have mine back .
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My black 2018 P-01 Omega doesn't have this problem. Go for it...
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I just wanted to register and chime in here, since I haven't seen anyone mention a 2018 with the issue.
I have a 2018 production P01 omega tactical (grey) (91299) and I DO have the decocker popping out during normal operation issue. https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=92667.0
I have about 400 rounds through mine and last range trip my decocker started popping out during normal operation. I can also reproduce by pushing down the ejctor with the slide ON and back.
So it seems they HAVE NOT corrected this issue in the 2018 production.
I have emailed CZ and requested a replacement for a P01 non omega, as I cant ever see myself trusting the omega system now. If they wont honor that I will dimple it and sell it and probably never purchase another CZ ever as this is a disgrace, imo.
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I just recently bought a 2018 P01 Omega and the decocker is popping out as well.
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I haven't experienced this with my 2018 Omega P-01 and I've got around 1200 rounds or so through it. I'm a little afraid if I induce this by touching the ejector, I'll break my gun lol.
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This is an interesting issue. I really had never heard of it before I found this post. I just picked up a new 2019 made P01 Omega. I guess I will have to keep an eye on this. I guess it is isolated to the P01? I never hear of this issue with other Omega trigger guns like the P07 and P09.
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I'm not sure anyone ever communicated the real reason for this issue. The safeties don't do it, just the decockers do it. Not all years of manufacture do it.
If CZ worked on it and figured it out no one every went on line and explained what they found. Shhh. It's a sequet?
Some people who really wanted to keep their pistols figured out a way around it and that's something to do with dimpling either the right side lever or the left side shaft, I don't remember which. There are some posts on the forum here about it.
I run the safeties and never had the issue on either of mine (naturally).
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Update on my personal experience:
Sent my P01 omega grey into CZ because my decocker was popping out. I included a note asking just for a regular p01 non omega replacement. ~1 week later i got my new p01.
Personally i'll stay away from the omegas.
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It?s disappointing cause I love the new decocker design. Mine seems fine so far but I can see how you?re turned off big time. Regardless the original P-01 is still a great pistol (I might buy one one day as a back up for my P-01 Omega ;) )
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Update on my personal experience:
Sent my P01 omega grey into CZ because my decocker was popping out. I included a note asking just for a regular p01 non omega replacement. ~1 week later i got my new p01.
Personally i'll stay away from the omegas.
Hmmm I sent mine in last week. Lets see if they'll be able to fix the issue. That's pretty cool that they gave you the replacement.
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My decocker is fine on a 2019 model. However, I want to run safeties and they don’t work...[emoji35][emoji2959][emoji2959][emoji2959]!
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My decocker is fine on a 2019 model. However, I want to run safeties and they don’t work...[emoji35][emoji2959][emoji2959][emoji2959]!
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What's the reason it doesn't work?
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I had a P-01 Omega and installed the safety levers so I’m not familiar with the decocker issue. What did frustrate me about the safety lever was the plastic safety detent. I never fired the first round from it because I found myself so irritated with it. After initial installation the tip of the detent stripped after less than a dozen operations of the lever. That made for a very weak feel when cycling the safety lever. I contacted CZ and was sent a complete new safety assembly and the same thing immediately happened. I double checked my installation and it was good. I did a search for a replacement metal detent and found nothing so I made one from a stainless flat washer and that cured the problem. All my CZ clone guns, and I have a lot, all have metal safety detents. I feel like a few extra dollars could’ve been invested in a metal detent.
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I think all the Omegas have the little plastic tab/detent held against the left side safety shaft by the spring.
Got six of them, haven't had an issue with that piece of plastic so far. Did buy an extra or two when I lost one off the first P09 while working on it one day. Haven't lost one since.
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I've used both on my P-01 Omega. Safety was first (pistol came with it as factory installed). During my first full disassembly I lost safety lever spring and started using decocker.
No issues found with it. Worked great. After few weeks I installed safety back on because I felt better with it. It's not the best safety lever I've been using but works fine.
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Well crap. I just dropped money on a new suppressor ready P01, it will be in this week. I hadn't heard anything on these since the 2017 models, I assumed it was cured. I even made sure I was getting a 2019. Here's hoping I am lucky.
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I picked up my new P01 Omega today. I lubed it, put 100 rds. of factory ammo (FMJ) through it.
First, the decocker didn't fail. Of the 100 rds., 3/4 of them were double action, as in decocking after each round. Maybe I am unjustly paranoid about this, but it is a concern for me.
Second, I had several failures to feed, but on all but one simply bumping the rear of the slide with the heel of my hand chambered the round. I'll chalk this up to a break-in period, and see how it goes in the long run.
Upon reading the manual, it gives no instructions on reversing the mag release, beyond that it has to be done by a gun smith. I've read on here about members doing this, can anyone help me with the procedure?
The gun shot fine, accuracy wise, just maybe an inch to the right for me. I didn't have time at the range for adjustments, so that will be left for the next trip. The D/A pull is heavy, compared to the S/A, but that is how the weapon is designed, so to complain about that is a sign I bought the wrong gun. I have shot enough CZ 75 based guns, S&W third generations, Sigs, and Beretta M9's to know that is the nature of the design. Besides, I don't find it to be any hindrance to accurately shooting a handgun.
If the reliability issues straighten up, this may become a carry weapon. It feels like my 1992 Compact, which is what I expected, and the tall suppressor sights are a lot better for my aging eyes.
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Upon reading the manual, it gives no instructions on reversing the mag release, beyond that it has to be done by a gun smith. I've read on here about members doing this, can anyone help me with the procedure?
CROWS,
You won't find manual or instruction anywhere... :o and you can reverse button by yourself, no gunsmith needed.
Look on Youtube for "CZ P-09 How-To switch ambi magazine release" - this is exactly how you have to do this. P-09 has the same mag release mechanism as P-01 Omega. It took me about 10 minutes to figure out how to play with the pin, but once I had it out rest was piece of cake 8)
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I have a 2019 P01 Omega. After discovering this issue, I have tried to reproduce it. And I did have the decocker to pop out. Of course, I freaked out. HOWEVER, after close inspection of the decocker lever, I found out that this little piece that holds the decocker spring (don't know if it has a proper name) was slightly offset as it was not snug all the way down. After making sure that there was no gap of any sort, I was not able to reproduce that issue. I think it comes from me taking it apart multiple times, so at some point that little captive thing went to the side a little bit. I don't know if that's the issue with 2017 models, but I'm curious if that would help.