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GENERAL => Ammunition, questions, and handloading techniques => Topic started by: Wobbly on March 22, 2019, 06:30:50 PM

Title: Load Testing: VihtaVuori N330 powder
Post by: Wobbly on March 22, 2019, 06:30:50 PM
Decided I would start loading more with Vit N330 since so many people had asked about it over the last year. I had good intentions, but I'm not sure how well my testing turned out. You decide.

Background
Caliber:  9x19 Luger
Bullets:  Zero 124gr JHP
Brass:    RWS
Powder:  Vit N330
Max Velocity:  1178fps @ 4.9gr per the Vit load manual
Primer:   Winchester WSP
OAL:      1.105"
Pistol:    SP-01 Tac
Qty:      10 rounds each, slow fired
Weather:  70F, clear and windy. A perfect March day.
Chrono:  ProChrono

Load      Avg Vel           SD
4.6gr        1019              11
4.7           1037              13
4.8           1055              17
4.9           1075              10
5.0           1095              12

NOTES:
> The loading went well, but the wind made range work frustrating
> Wind kept blowing over my backstop. Finally decided to loose some brass.
> Numbers at 4.6gr matched my previous testing
> Velocity failed to climb to book numbers which was disappointing
> The Zero bullet is 0.567" long
> OAL of 1.105" results in a ~0.200" seating depth
> I'd expect similar results with the PD 124gr JHP

 ;)

Test setup...
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/wSzuBcHn00CtIrbYgapIAI1rXEV8IqKvYGe9nLEOjZ951d7QrXeGTMYqgi8VKVEju3-3GRV0YP3lScH8VVcY-OWfw5d16Y0IcZ2jyVZfPgO3bN7lQo6snqB5OwGTpRNgmDcIy5x4gz_iSpqhzajuPUGqAKPdrt6tUWk01u8-vzu9HSv_ivsvk1ZaOlb7QUUtUHBs9V_go-XYmFyyclZIJ11H22LSgCth4FC3QwkN-Qh3kDfyCZl6e0BoWFzeV3gFGNegrtPIFacv1C1fUsn1TRt5sc0feFLqlOVJmzL85A1Shp-wnmUaVXm7ucrTbpa1yhqp0lpl97jJL4c1RoXweAh2XKhT-f2RDksaQVL6LcD3fNRZyPirEun0VOkhSa3JQD96XV6uEMOkVGfIEQezxHkna--Yzh0oX-k-DC2Z8X5KgpSnmrpMYTzw7x4aGGaIWXdVafyT3FHRpNkHX2Dv2RQIYDsekdTtTKmueOC71h_gYgws15gDF2r_7uZ7fEIxHAk1y5Umw7QT5rTfPg2mzvvVbhqqDH39Eht-sgefKBfzlKFGw3QyUfEF0hj2vuVpCgtBEH2Mnna3qGw0ZQ2j2YK1FJKbBBLWd9WEX211jU5KUyuqg_DiQBGRae6Jpa2LdEvbnSeI02E7sZnE6PPR0gW-apGF8x4=w640-h853-no)

Cases running cleanly, even at 4.6gr...
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/JvYqRu7VyDP93030cVV6qceGVB2Nx9TmU_srlCdPvkFUeq2gvpnKqvOBKcWVr30C708f66G6B3c5RZx7NiIsSadyLTvcgkQxhILasJJe86TMa8bLkdyDbilMmGcy8t03VqEleD-cx8dEwSpKB9RXlFT_VjsQQ0vs9f8JrgqDGKWQO-IGEschXZ4Oe58gWd0YRWzZbi3rVyzn3WxEWzYKdxjyiIcSen3f9MjYLmZ-jTL60Qi0TOw0_-4AY6dKpSHgwsvg4Ie66aO7JieXIzbgC5ztofqlhvoNW9qWsSP1YgsKfk8A0KTSRfj8kbpZKtodDIUlQbgLQPGpLHzA3m7fwFXee9ppvC9znEIwCSKXV2LB87ThrURPqDLE3xcEblij0dZk3JUtb8rtCcEl0O2NkL9voGKbFNA8Vub42bwnZIB6nZMvAOvPMt0l46UJE5taV3gqwgfLWhU7RV-Y5p08q6m0wsUPhLMN4BYZFmhIAQJ1soK3pCbhSvJZgkKIkqjEnqq2-snlRaUb6avg4zGR9iSU_BgOre6po7g3jF-5lhROO3fBSddkweuQaVOqWkEC2dxmrYoxSZHAPChBevfK8or2gZyFlrkdEFRl5VEk0e1_TNH2crlLYApuq-V2mmZj_GZoR0CPNltqT9tMV8LmqVQnu_xxop8=w640-h853-no)
Title: Re: VihtaVuori N330 powder load data
Post by: jwc007 on March 22, 2019, 07:56:43 PM
Good Results!  8)  I have some PD 124 grain JHP's on hand that will probably get around the 5 grain level.
Title: Re: VihtaVuori N330 powder load data
Post by: Wobbly on March 25, 2019, 03:51:58 PM
Background
Caliber:  38 Spcl
Bullets:  RMR 158gr plated
Brass:    Winchester
Powder:  Vit N330
Max Velocity:  883fps per the Vit load manual
Primer:   Winchester WSP
OAL:      By the cannelure
Pistol:    GP100-6"
Qty:      10 rounds each, slow fired
Weather:  70F and overcast
Chrono:  ProChrono

Load      Avg Vel           SD
4.5gr         703              11
4.7            747              13
4.8            762


NOTES:
• Wanted a target load. Didn't chase the top end on purpose.
Title: Re: VihtaVuori N330 powder load data
Post by: Wobbly on March 25, 2019, 03:58:11 PM
Background
Caliber:    9x19 Luger
Bullets:    Precision Delta 124gr JHP
Brass:      Winchester
Powder:    Vit N330
Max Velocity:  1178fps per the Vit load manual
Primer:    Wolf SPP
OAL:        1.100"
Pistol:      SP01 Tac
Qty:         10 rounds each, slow fired
Weather:  70F and overcast
Chrono:    ProChrono

Load      Avg Vel         SD
4.6gr         1022
4.8            1064           14
5.0            1101           16
5.2            1143           17
5.4            1177           07   (Max Load)

NOTES:
> This bullet is 0.576" long, so it is seated 0.220" deep at this OAL
> Wolf primers are the unknown component in this load
> All cases looked clean with no ash or other particles left behind
Title: Re: VihtaVuori N330 powder load data
Post by: jwc007 on March 26, 2019, 04:05:02 PM
Very good results!  8)  Again, my PD 124 gr JHP's will probably get the 5 grain level, as that's about where I want to go, power wise.

Also, thanks for posting the .38 Special Load Development results.  I might just try that, although my pet Load using the same Berry's Bullet, using WST yields similar results with only 3.8 grains.
Title: Re: VihtaVuori N330 powder load data
Post by: Wobbly on March 28, 2019, 07:32:22 PM
Photos added.
Title: Re: VihtaVuori N330 powder load data
Post by: Pat Minicucci on March 31, 2019, 08:35:01 AM
Many thanks for this post! I just bought 2 pounds of N330 to try it out and this data will help.
Title: Re: VihtaVuori N330 powder load data
Post by: Wobbly on April 05, 2019, 01:46:11 PM
Background
Caliber:  357 Mag
Bullets:  RMR Mfg 158gr plated
Brass:    Star Line
Powder:  Vit N330
Max Velocity:  Unknown
Primer:   Wolf SPP
OAL:      By the cannelure
Pistol:    GP100-6"
Qty:      6 rounds each, slow fired
Weather:  70F and overcast
Chrono:  ProChrono

Load      Avg Vel           SD
6.5gr         891             84
6.7            980             25
6.9          1010             23

NOTES:
> No data found for N330 and 158gr
> This powder is not a good 357 choice
Title: Re: VihtaVuori N330 powder load data
Post by: Chuck in Indiana on May 16, 2019, 06:31:07 PM
On Mr. Wobblie's advice, I've been trying some N330, too.
Strangely enough, VV has data for the Berry's HBRN-TP for about every powder but N330.  ;D
My sweetie bought me a new chrono for my 3/4 of a century birthday.  :) She's a good girl.
I started low. 3.6 went bang, and the gun worked fine. Average speed was 798.
Went up to 4.4, which averaged 963.
Today, I did a ladder from 4.2 to 5.0gr.

Caliber:  9MM
Bullets:  124gr Berry's HBRN-TP
Brass:    F.C.
Powder:  Vit N330
Max Velocity:  ~1130fps
Primer:   S&B
OAL:      1.145"
Pistol:    CZ 75B
Qty:       5 rounds each, slow fired
Weather:  75F and hazy sun
Chrono:  ProChrono

Load        Av. Vel      SD
4.2           921          9
4.4           962          20
4.6          1020          8
4.8          1066          13
5.0          1092          18

Notes
> Looks like 4.6 will be my can killin load. :)
 
Title: Re: Load Testing: VihtaVuori N330 powder
Post by: Wobbly on March 26, 2020, 11:28:25 AM
Equipment
Caliber:  38Super
Bullets:  124gr RMR JHP
Brass:    Mixed
Powder:  Vit N330
Max Velocity:  Unknown
Primer:   Federal #100
OAL:      1.200"
Pistol:    5" 1911
Qty:       10 rounds each, slow fired
Weather:  70F and clear
Chrono:  ProChrono DLX

Load        Av. Vel      SD
6.0          1198          28

Notes
> Results are very promising
> Definitely more testing needed
> Excellent acuracy
> Low felt recoil
Title: Re: Load Testing: VihtaVuori N330 powder
Post by: newageroman on March 27, 2020, 04:08:53 PM
Whats the difference between N320 and N330? Is it just burn rate or something else?
Title: Re: Load Testing: VihtaVuori N330 powder
Post by: Wobbly on March 27, 2020, 05:14:59 PM
Quote from: newageroman on March 27, 2020, 04:08:53 PM
Whats the difference between N320 and N330? Is it just burn rate or something else?


It's one step slower.