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CZ LONG ARMS => CZ BREN => Topic started by: CZ-TCP on May 18, 2019, 09:13:40 AM

Title: Bren 2
Post by: CZ-TCP on May 18, 2019, 09:13:40 AM
Any word on getting these out into stores yet?
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: armoredman on May 19, 2019, 02:57:01 AM
Barely a trickle from what I am seeing.  :(
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: lordboogie on May 19, 2019, 01:39:01 PM
It looks like a couple of the new Ms went to dealers close to Missouri. I?ve only seen two 7.62x39mm 9 inch of the new Ms. One was a dealer listing on Facebook a couple weeks ago and one sold on Gunbroker like last week for $2100. So maybe they?re starting to trickle in.


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Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: Manticore_Arms on May 23, 2019, 12:39:22 PM
They have not shipped in numbers yet.

Sven
Manticore Arms
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: timetofly on May 29, 2019, 07:47:28 PM
As of this afternoon, CZ is finalizing up a few things and they "could" be shipping in about 2 months.

With the scalping frenzy associated with the P-10S, I'm selling tickets to the main event on Gun Broker when the Bren2 carbines arrive.   
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: best sale on May 30, 2019, 10:18:18 AM
oh dang CZ...  another 2 months waiting...
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: Fantom on May 30, 2019, 08:11:05 PM
My LGS just got one today.
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: timetofly on May 30, 2019, 11:05:16 PM
My LGS just got one today.

A Carbine or pistol?
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: Fantom on May 31, 2019, 06:07:41 AM
My LGS just got one today.

A Carbine or pistol?

x39 pistol 9 inch barrel.
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: timetofly on May 31, 2019, 07:29:49 AM
My LGS just got one today.

A Carbine or pistol?

x39 pistol 9 inch barrel.

Thank you for the info
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: armoredman on June 01, 2019, 02:10:04 AM
I don't expect to see carbines for another year, I would think.  :(
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: Fantom on June 01, 2019, 04:11:06 AM
I don't expect to see carbines for another year, I would think.  :(

Indeed.
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: N_Parker on June 01, 2019, 07:18:25 AM
One listed on GB.

Just noticed pic is a little misleading. Details indicate a 14" barrel.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/816398755 (https://www.gunbroker.com/item/816398755)
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: AKcandyman on June 05, 2019, 12:12:46 AM
Hoping my dealer can get the 11" 5.56 in really soon.
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: blueknight99 on June 13, 2019, 03:48:24 PM
Where can I find one? Seems the market has dried up on those.
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: armoredman on June 14, 2019, 01:45:25 AM
It's dependent on what CZ-UB sends. Who knows what will be in the next shipment.
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: AKcandyman on June 15, 2019, 05:05:58 PM
Cz told me it was shipping two weeks ago.. not a distributor in sight that has seen one.
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: best sale on June 15, 2019, 09:27:48 PM
I think two 7.62 X 39  " 8 & 14 inches " were on gunbroker 2 weeks ago if I am right. Hopefully, 556 in 8 will start showing up too.
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: AKcandyman on June 15, 2019, 09:52:11 PM
Yeah if I don't see a 11" in 556 in a couple weeks I'm just gonna get something else.
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: AKcandyman on July 01, 2019, 02:41:45 PM
Cricket. Cricket.
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: bull on July 01, 2019, 10:57:24 PM
Please give us some carbines.......FDE and my money will be on the counter
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: armoredman on July 02, 2019, 08:19:02 PM
CZ-USA posted a picture of the MS2 Carbine on Facebook of all places and asked how we liked them...if I HAD one I would tell you, in detail, with pictures and video. :D
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: Psyop96 on July 03, 2019, 02:46:11 AM
CZ-USA posted a picture of the MS2 Carbine on Facebook of all places and asked how we liked them...if I HAD one I would tell you, in detail, with pictures and video. :D
Very much a taste of old Czechoslovak outlook/dark humor during the ?SSR? How do you like a product that you can’t even have yet, soudruha (comrade) Armoredmane? [emoji3]


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Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: AKcandyman on July 04, 2019, 04:33:04 PM
I went ahead and spent my funds on other hardware. I'll check for a CZ Bren 2 in 6 months.
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: AKcandyman on July 16, 2019, 09:43:38 PM
Cz Bren 2 11" for sale on Armslist for $2,200.
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: blueknight99 on July 20, 2019, 12:55:13 AM
Seems there are some guys who bought them and are capitalizing on the delay by CZ in releasing the new Bren 2 Ms models and selling at a huge premium. Saw a couple for sale a few days back on gunbroker.com at $2,999 listing price. That is moving into the Scar 17 and APC 223 category.
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: AKcandyman on July 20, 2019, 03:47:20 PM
Well CZ has absolutely F****3d the pooch on releasing these. Which tells me customer service and fixing any issues are going to just as tragic. May be a cool gun but I'm already pulling out on these. Even if my dealer sells them for 1,600.
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: blueknight99 on July 22, 2019, 11:02:11 PM
Seems like end of year or Christmas time is the latest we can expect these. All the online dealers have already put up the CZ Bren 2 on their websites in anticipation. Either as 'Out of Stock' or 'Coming Soon'.
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: Type5 on July 24, 2019, 02:40:00 PM
Never expect them then you will not be disappointed if they make it to the market.
This is a superior product, no doubt.
CZ USA or CZ as whole are not onboard with the release on this weapon.
Who could possibly say if this, Bren 2 MS or the Bren 2 BR will ever come to the market.
I am a proud proponent of CZ.
That said, they have screwed the brand name by mis-handling these releases.
Glad I got 1 of the 1st 300, and I will support future releases but with less enthusiasm than before.
Bad on you CZ.
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: mikec on July 24, 2019, 06:22:15 PM
I lived in Czechoslovakia until 1968.  Everything was screwed up beyond belief.  (That is what Democrats want USA to become!!).  When I returned to visit in 80s, still under socialist regime, it was as if country was frozen in time, repression, zero progress in 20 years.  Incredibly sad.

What you see with Bren 2 is only a minor glitch.  CZ USA should not put new products in their annual catalog until available.  Waiting 8, 12 or more months is absurd to American consumers and only damages CZ USA reputation.
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: blueknight99 on July 26, 2019, 03:29:39 AM
Your are right mikec. They should never have put an item up in their catelogs and website without it being released first or coming with a couple weeks. That is really bad marketing. But then, CZ was never known for savvy marketing or good customer relations. Its just that their products happen to be built great for their price category and market themselves.

That being said, the American customer even though happy, will still suck up to them whenever they are released as long as the product is of a base minimum quality.
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: AKcandyman on July 29, 2019, 07:05:08 PM
I hate to say it, but I have moved on. Love the design and ergonomics. But as a company and how they have handled the release vs availability. Forget it. Rather put my money into a company that stands behind a product than be, "behind in production and service".
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: CZBren805 on August 02, 2019, 11:58:19 PM
Come on everybody,

This won't be the last time a product has been released late to market.  Might I remind you that Microsoft notoriously stopped naming their Windows OS releases after years because they kept missing them. 

Looks like Bren 2 actually meant Bren 2020  ;D
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: beanz2 on August 03, 2019, 10:38:06 AM
Remember the Sig MPX?  LWRC SMG-45?   Even Magpul Masada eventually made it to market (even as a Bushmaster).  Just frustrating to wait year after year.

If those 300 Bren 2’s did not make it to US shores last year, I think our frustration wouldn’t be as bad.  Are we as frustrated with them not releasing the Bren 2 BR?  We also waited a year or two for the Shadow 2 Orange, didn’t we?


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Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: bull on August 04, 2019, 06:57:20 AM
With current sitation(s) i just hope we have a chance to get a bren2 carbine ....cz better hurry up
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: JOSE LUIZ on September 04, 2019, 12:17:55 PM
HI!

Does anyone here knows what is the rifling of the Bren 2 rifle in 5.56mm? Also the rifling in the Bren 2 BR (7.62x51mm)? is there any other barrel size for the Bren 2 BR besides the 16"? Last: length for both rifles, Bren 2 in 14" and BR in 16" barrel, with extended stock and folded stock?

Thanks if somebody can help me!
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: AKcandyman on September 10, 2019, 11:30:04 AM
Whoever goes to ShotShow, can you ask CZ why...
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: armoredman on September 10, 2019, 08:51:56 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/xFQBHkI.jpg)
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: cops312 on September 18, 2019, 09:35:43 PM
My Bren 2MS 8” (5.56) pistol is finally shipping. Will be here Friday then the 10 day waiting period that WA State now has. Well I waited this long, so I guess a few more days won’t hurt. At least I can look at it while I fill out my transfer paperwork.
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: Doctor Castle on September 18, 2019, 09:48:45 PM
When I was in Afghanistan I met some Czech professional badasses with 11.5" Bren 2's. I held one (of the rifles... not the soldiers), and I told the "owner" when I got back to America I was def going to buy one.

Then I come back to America and alas, my plans are thwarted.
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: armoredman on September 21, 2019, 02:07:18 AM
Nont yet, Doc, the pistols are finally shipping in, slowly, but they are coming in. Rifles/carbines, I have no info at all.
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: AKcandyman on September 25, 2019, 12:47:56 PM
11" is a must.
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: Sango on September 26, 2019, 05:09:36 PM
My LGS received their first B2 5.56 Pistol today, so here they come fellas! May try to run down in the morning and Czech it out in the flesh.
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: Sango on September 26, 2019, 05:23:20 PM
It’s an 8” model, no brace. Dodged a bullet there, had it been an 11” with a brace I’d have been in deep doodoo with the wifey  ;D

May hold out for a carbine (until an 11 w/brace shows up, and I change my tune on a dime)

I have a Saint Victor Pistol already in 7.5”, and it’s the cats behind. Absolutely LOVE that pistol. I’ll hold out.
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: best sale on September 26, 2019, 10:58:23 PM
8 inch 5.56 on Gunbroker for less than MRSP by a dealer around my zone.
Dang!  CZ really dropped the ball with that new handguard crap. Now I see why folks dropped big $$$ for the military version
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: armoredman on September 27, 2019, 03:05:21 AM
I haven't had a chance to handle one, so I don't know if the forearm is that bad. I would bet that a better one comes or Manticore will produce one double quick. I also think that the delay had nothing to do with CZ-USA.
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: Aries144 on September 29, 2019, 08:38:05 AM
The MS handguards will be a good thing for 16" bbl carbines once longer handguards are available. Also, at least the M-lok slot is flush and not recessed.

I don't like the way the M-lok slots are recessed on the Bren2S that made it into the US. The short handguard area of this configuration really require goose-neck mounts for lights or IR lasers and the step up from the M-lok slot to the front screw blocks using an an M-lok mount. I'll probably have to mount a section of 1913 and put a light mount on that. I'd have been better off if my Bren 2 had just come with the 1913 rails instead, as then I'd be able to get the light/laser mounted farther forward. It's a shame the M-lok rails can't be flipped insode out so that M-lok mounts could get past the front screw.
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: Paul S on October 02, 2019, 10:37:14 AM
I saw and a handled BREN 2 the shop last night (8 inch 5.56), it was really, really nice. Great trigger, I don't think I'd try to improve it. The handguard was totally fine, I don't see what the issue is? I'll wait for an 11 inch, but I'm really happy I finally got to see a BREN 2 up close and personal.


Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: AKToday on October 02, 2019, 01:00:44 PM
I see several BREN 2 MS in 5.56 starting to pop up on GunBroker ------ anyone know where the hell are the 7.62x39 ones ???????????
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: armoredman on October 05, 2019, 05:29:02 AM
In the pipeline is all I can guess. :-\
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: cops312 on October 05, 2019, 01:52:12 PM
They have been out there. 2 months ago my LGS had an 11” for sale. Did not stay on the wall long.
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: beanz2 on October 06, 2019, 04:56:55 PM
In case someone has been thinking of getting the Bren 2MS in 5.56, the 8" and 11" pistols at Gunbroker are getting below what I paid for my Bren 2S in Sept 2018.

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Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: armoredman on October 10, 2019, 05:06:35 AM
Sweet, lower prices mean better supply.
Title: Re: Bren 2
Post by: DDNC on December 10, 2019, 04:31:37 PM
When I was in Afghanistan I met some Czech professional badasses with 11.5" Bren 2's. I held one (of the rifles... not the soldiers), and I told the "owner" when I got back to America I was def going to buy one.

Then I come back to America and alas, my plans are thwarted.
Bummer, mine were not. Lol!

(https://i.imgur.com/Fa3CMX9l.jpg)