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GENERAL => Ammunition, questions, and handloading techniques => Topic started by: SACamp on February 29, 2004, 09:50:56 PM

Title: Spanish .380 ACP JSP Ammunition...
Post by: SACamp on February 29, 2004, 09:50:56 PM

Hello.  A good while back I got some Spanish-made, non-corrosive JSP's.  I fired some in a CZ-83 and the stuff seemed "hot," but none was checked out for speed or expansion.
           
            From a Bersa w/3.5" bbl, ten-shots resulted in the following figures:
           
            Empresa Nacional
            Santa Barbara 95-gr. JSP:                Ave. Vel = 1029 (ES: 50, SD: 20)
           
            From the slightly-longer SIG-Sauer P230 w/3.62" bbl:
           
            Empresa Nacional Santa
            Barbara JSP:                        Ave. Vel = 1079 (ES: 78, SD: 34)
           
            I shot this ammo into water and into wet pack (super-saturated newsprint) and could not recover any bullets as they penetrated too much; I don't think they expanded a tall.
           
            This stuff feels "hotter."  It's in the +P velocity range, but there's no +P or high-pressure warnings on the ammo at all.  
           
            I don't think I'd shoot much of this in aluminum-frame pistols.  I think it'd be fine for folks having Makarovs chambered in .380 rather than 9x18mm Mak.
           
            Best.

Title: Spanish .380 ACP JSP Ammunition...
Post by: Oldnslow on March 08, 2004, 12:50:36 PM

I haven't seen the ammo, but I've heard about it. I might get some of it later if it is still available and do a little testing of my own. However, there is no such animal as +P .380. It may or may not be loaded a little "hot" or hotter than what you are used to, but it is not +P. Whether it is within SAAMI specs is another question.

Title: Spanish .380 ACP JSP Ammunition...
Post by: barnshooter on March 10, 2004, 11:47:55 AM

I don't think euros use SAAMI.