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GENERAL => Ammunition, questions, and handloading techniques => Topic started by: CZ75ID on February 20, 2004, 10:16:48 AM

Title: Carry Load?
Post by: CZ75ID on February 20, 2004, 10:16:48 AM
What is your favorite carry load for your CZ (s)?
Title: Carry Load?
Post by: jwc007 on February 20, 2004, 11:14:36 AM
Currently, my defensive loads depend upon Remingtons Gold Sabre line.  9mm 124 grn +P's and .45 185 grn +P's
           
            When I feel that lower penetration/overpenetration may be of concern, I switch to Winchester Silvertips.  9mm 115 grn and .45 185 grn
           
            In Winter, heavy clothing penetration can be an issue, where I live.  In the hot summer, the added penetration is not needed.
Title: Carry Load?
Post by: broadkil on February 21, 2004, 04:38:42 AM
well im my cz-40b (and soon to be added 40P!)
            black-hills 165grn HP's
            Triton 135grn HP's
            but might change that to PMC 165grn HP's due to cost and the guns seems to like them allot!
Title: Carry Load?
Post by: n-7677 on February 23, 2004, 07:12:02 PM
I currently carry a G19 loaded with Federal 135+P Tactical and when I carried my CZ85 I liked the 124+P Gold Dot.
Title: Carry Load?
Post by: PTShaffer on February 23, 2004, 08:38:58 PM
I alternate between, Winchester 115gr +p+, Winchester 127gr+p+ and, most recently, Winchester 124gr Partition Gold, all in 9mm caliber.  I am getting 1400fps from the 115gr+p+, 1300fps from the 127gr+p+ and 1200fps from the Partition Gold, out of my pre-B CZ75s.
Title: Carry Load?
Post by: Unregistered(d) on February 24, 2004, 07:14:45 PM
I've been carrying Federal 115 +p+ in my CZ-75BD (primary carry), and Federal Hydra-Shok 124 in my Ruger KP95 (Carry when my knee acts up, it's lighter). I've been considering switching to Speer Golddot 124 +p but I have too much of the federal around, and that's after shooting off six boxes last week!
Title: Carry Load?
Post by: Radom on February 25, 2004, 04:00:53 PM
124gr +P Speer Gold Dot for 9mm CZs.  
           
            6.0gr Alliant Unique
            230gr 3-D LRN
            Federal case
            Federal LP primer
           
            This is the handload that I carry in the 97B when I'm out in the woods.
Title: Carry Load?
Post by: jcmios on March 20, 2004, 06:56:09 PM
I still have a few boxes of Federal 124grs Nyclad hollow points and they shoot to point of aim in my 75 compact.  Function is 100% with no FTF or FTE's.  When I run out of them I will have to experiment with some of the newer personal protection loads.  
            I always use factory loads for my CCW use's as I do not want any extra legal issues in the case that I do have shoooting.
           
            Jim
Title: Carry Load?
Post by: mbott on March 20, 2004, 07:04:28 PM
jcmios,
           
            Don't take this personally, but what "extra legal issues" would you expect with handloads?  Do you have some legal cite where the use of handloads became an issue in a court case?  I'm curious, because the one attorney that I'm personally aware of that did a search for such a case came back empty handed.
           
            --
            Mike
Title: Carry Load?
Post by: jcmios on March 20, 2004, 07:32:34 PM
Mike as a retired police officer we were told to never use reloads of any kind with our off duty weapons as it is a potential legal mess.  I have also read many articles stating the same thing, it can be used against you and is best just not to use them for carry.
            I know many people do use hand loads for this but I use hand loads extensively for practice but not for carry. IMHO.
           
            Jim
Title: Carry Load?
Post by: mbott on March 20, 2004, 08:08:38 PM
Jim,
           
            I've "heard" the same.  Many time over to tell you the truth.  However, the legal research on this subject that I have seen first hand suggests this is more urban legend, than anything else.
           
            I am not advocating that anyone not carry factory loads.  If that's what they are more comfortable with, then by all means: use factory ammunition.  Nor am I advocating that anyone carry reloads.  I happen to train exclusively with my  reloads, therefore, when CCW becomes legal here in OH, I will probably use my reloads.
           
            --
            Mike
           
            (edited for spelling)
Title: Carry Load?
Post by: Jeff Bergquist on March 20, 2004, 08:30:38 PM
In my CCW course here in Minnesota someone brought up the subject of reloads versus factory ammo. The instructor's response was that there hasn't been a court case in Minnesota where the decision was affected by what ammo was used. Either the shoot was justified or it wasn't, and it mattered not a whit whether the shooting was with bb's or bazookas.
           
            Jeff
Title: Carry Load?
Post by: Radom on March 22, 2004, 01:47:37 PM
I am a law school graduate (IU Bloomington, Class of 1998) , and I carry handloads most of the time.  Draw your own conclusions...   ;)
Title: Carry Load?
Post by: mbott on March 22, 2004, 05:30:13 PM
Hey FEG, that dates looks suspiciously like Jake ... or Elwood.  8)
           
            Ah ha! It's an "8".
           
            --
            Mike
Title: Carry Load?
Post by: Radom on March 22, 2004, 05:52:31 PM
Yes, apparently a casual familiarity with jurisrudence does not translate into competency with EZCodes...  :eek
           
            8 + )  =  8)
Title: Carry Load?
Post by: tsw on March 28, 2004, 02:54:01 AM
9mm 147gr Black Talon
           
            Sure they ain't cheap, but price is gonna be the last thing I'll be thinking about if I never need to use em.