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Title: Decocker and Trigger Cleaning on non-Omega SP01
Post by: Crow on September 26, 2020, 08:32:54 PM
So like, what's the easiest way to do this? I have a slave pin but I really don't want to have to pull the whole cage out every time to clean it. But if I don't, no matter how well I drip some cleaner and wipe then flush with oil, I always end up getting some leaky dirty bleep from the back of the slide, hammer, and decocker, and sometimes the trigger after just casual dry firing or even leaving it in its case for gravity to drag the oil out of it.

Is there some secret or method to this that I'm not privy to, or do I just have to suck it up and break it down completely?
Title: Re: Decocker and Trigger Cleaning on non-Omega SP01
Post by: George16 on September 27, 2020, 12:14:54 AM
Spray it with non-chlorinated brake parts cleaner, blow it down with compressed air and oil it. Easy-peasy without removing the sear cage.

This is how I clean my competition guns.
Title: Re: Decocker and Trigger Cleaning on non-Omega SP01
Post by: Crow on September 27, 2020, 11:20:23 PM
Idk how I never thought to use compressed air. That sounds perfect. I'll give that a try tomorrow because that cage seems to collect ALL the crud.
Title: Re: Decocker and Trigger Cleaning on non-Omega SP01
Post by: m1a_scoutguy on September 28, 2020, 01:09:32 AM
I use the Hornady One Shot Cleaner & Lube. I NEVER take my guns all the way apart,no reason for it ! I spray,brush,spray again ! After 1000 rds or more through my 07 it ran black for half a can,LOL !I love the stuff. Give it a try.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1014743671?pid=170954
Title: Re: Decocker and Trigger Cleaning on non-Omega SP01
Post by: George16 on September 28, 2020, 08:27:54 AM
I use the Hornady One Shot Cleaner & Lube. I NEVER take my guns all the way apart,no reason for it ! I spray,brush,spray again ! After 1000 rds or more through my 07 it ran black for half a can,LOL !I love the stuff. Give it a try.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1014743671?pid=170954

I used to use that until a shooter friend told me non-chlorinated brake parts cleaner cleans just as good or better for half the price of one shot.

I just make sure I oil the parts after cleaning with brake parts cleaner since it’ll remove all the dirt and lubrication.
Title: Re: Decocker and Trigger Cleaning on non-Omega SP01
Post by: Crow on September 28, 2020, 05:01:46 PM
Do you have a preferred brand for that? About how much do you use when spraying?
Title: Re: Decocker and Trigger Cleaning on non-Omega SP01
Post by: eastman on September 28, 2020, 08:16:18 PM
The advantage of Hornady One Shot is that it is a spray CLP. After it cleans out the gunk, it still leaves behind a layer of protective dry-lube.

With brake cleaner, there is no lube or protectant left, so you need another step to lube and protect the metal.

Some may prefer quick and easy over cheap - as the old saying goes "Good/Fast/Cheap - pick 2"
Title: Re: Decocker and Trigger Cleaning on non-Omega SP01
Post by: Crow on September 28, 2020, 10:33:29 PM
I'm not too worried about that. Honestly, I've never much cared for all-in-one products anyways, and would rather go back through with a lubricant of my choice anyways.
Title: Re: Decocker and Trigger Cleaning on non-Omega SP01
Post by: George16 on September 28, 2020, 11:24:54 PM
I'm not too worried about that. Honestly, I've never much cared for all-in-one products anyways, and would rather go back through with a lubricant of my choice anyways.

You and me both. Reason why I use the non-chlorinated cleaner. I clean my competition guns after every match (3-4 times a month) and using brake parts cleaner and compressed air makes it easier and faster.
Title: Re: Decocker and Trigger Cleaning on non-Omega SP01
Post by: m1a_scoutguy on September 29, 2020, 12:59:24 AM
The advantage of Hornady One Shot is that it is a spray CLP. After it cleans out the gunk, it still leaves behind a layer of protective dry-lube.

With brake cleaner, there is no lube or protectant left, so you need another step to lube and protect the metal.

Some may prefer quick and easy over cheap - as the old saying goes "Good/Fast/Cheap - pick 2"

Exactly, I'm old/lazy & basically hate cleaning guns, :o, and for me spending the "extra" is worth it ! I hate how the BC leaves the white film or whatever. It mite just be that it strips ALL the oil and lube off and looks lie crap,LOL ! I have used BC on my ARs when doing a full break down and clean but for the price & convenience I like the One Shot for my handguns. Like I said I hate cleaning my guns, especially pistols, I keep them lubed well but not afraid of a little crime on them. The Ole One Shot takes care of it pretty easily ! 
Title: Re: Decocker and Trigger Cleaning on non-Omega SP01
Post by: George16 on September 29, 2020, 08:51:41 AM
Do you have a preferred brand for that? About how much do you use when spraying?

No brand preference for brake parts cleaner. Just make sure it’s non-chlorinated or it’ll leave white spots on your gun. It doesn’t take much. A can ($3.50) last me a month of cleaning 3 guns and one rifle.

After that, I use Lucas extreme oil (sear cage etc) and Enos slide glide grease (barrel lug and slide stop/pin) to lubricate the gun.
Title: Re: Decocker and Trigger Cleaning on non-Omega SP01
Post by: Claymore504 on September 29, 2020, 02:21:42 PM
I hose mine down with whatever gun cleaner you use. I use Lucas or Rem Oil for this step. I flush it a few times and then blow it out with compressed air. Then I go back with my oil of choice. Too easy.
Title: Re: Decocker and Trigger Cleaning on non-Omega SP01
Post by: Crow on September 29, 2020, 02:55:12 PM
Awesome. Thanks so much.

I think I might even invest in a small air compressor just for firearms instead of firing up the big tank every time. That plus a 6 pack of brake cleaner will probably be a good long term investment over stripping and cleaning everything with q-tips and pipe cleaners like a fool.
Title: Re: Decocker and Trigger Cleaning on non-Omega SP01
Post by: M1A4ME on September 29, 2020, 03:23:32 PM
1.  Wear safety glasses/monogoggles.  You don't want that stuff in your eyes.  Burns like fire and hard to get to the shower to rinse your eyes out.  Did it once, years and years ago while cleaning up some wheel brake cylinders for rebuilt - yeah, people used to rebuild those things.

2.  I'd take the grips off, just to be sure.  I've seen brake cleaner melt plastic grips.  Still have a smeared spot (plastic checkering smeared) on my Ruger Mk1 bull barrel from about 40 years ago when I first tried carb. cleaner.

3.  Like people have mentioned, the lubricating/corrosion protection of whatever lube you use will be gone.  Make sure you take care of the metal surfaces pretty quickly after the cleaning session is done.
Title: Re: Decocker and Trigger Cleaning on non-Omega SP01
Post by: Crow on September 29, 2020, 04:22:28 PM
I've gotten standard bore/brake cleaner in my eyes before just from the mist produced by brisk barrel brushing. Needless to say I always keep splash goggles around now.

Already been taking my grips off each time anyways. Nearly impossible to control where things drip to even during hand cleaning. Plus my SP01 came with several extra sets of grip screws so normal wear and tear of taking them off each time doesn't bother me.

I'm pretty compulsive about keeping everything lubed after cleaning, which is what has lead me to this issue in the first place. I'd rather have a little bit of clear oil leak from my decocker than none or yellow/brown/black gunk.
Title: Re: Decocker and Trigger Cleaning on non-Omega SP01
Post by: Crow on October 02, 2020, 01:57:04 PM
Just wanted to say that I finally got around to doing this today. Knocked all of the gunk out of the trouble areas with some cheapo CRC Brakleen and hit it until it was dry with the compressor. After reoiling I'm about half an hour into racking the slide, dry firing, and playing with the decocker and so far no more baby-poo colored leaks from any of the moving parts. Thanks much for the solid advice.
Title: Re: Decocker and Trigger Cleaning on non-Omega SP01
Post by: Lock-n-load on October 02, 2020, 11:05:51 PM
Spray it with break cleaner and you are good to go . Protect your eyes though it will get messy!
Title: Re: Decocker and Trigger Cleaning on non-Omega SP01
Post by: newageroman on October 05, 2020, 10:22:50 AM
I used to love cleaning guns, now its a chore. I think I will try this route. I normally clean every 1k rounds or so. I've been using lucas gun oil with the metal needle tip (my fav), and for the slide I use a 50/50 mix of it with red high temp bearing grease.

A couple specific questions:

I guess what I'm trying to get at is when you brake clean all the junk out, then blow it with compressed air, how to you ensure the inside of the gripframe metal in all those tiny creavases are oiled? An oily wipe rag is good, but will miss the tiny spots, I would think a spray mist and then specific contact points and slide grease would be ideal. I might try that tonight and see what gives.
Title: Re: Decocker and Trigger Cleaning on non-Omega SP01
Post by: George16 on October 05, 2020, 11:33:33 AM
I used to love cleaning guns, now its a chore. I think I will try this route. I normally clean every 1k rounds or so. I've been using lucas gun oil with the metal needle tip (my fav), and for the slide I use a 50/50 mix of it with red high temp bearing grease.

A couple specific questions:
  • Do you grease your comp ports to reduce carbon buildup?
  • Do you use a pinpoint oil applicator like the little lucas bottles? or a spray oil or wipe rag?
  • Do you remove grips everytime you clean the gun, this might be a deal breaker for me.

I guess what I'm trying to get at is when you brake clean all the junk out, then blow it with compressed air, how to you ensure the inside of the gripframe metal in all those tiny creavases are oiled? An oily wipe rag is good, but will miss the tiny spots, I would think a spray mist and then specific contact points and slide grease would be ideal. I might try that tonight and see what gives.

Prior to leaving for a match, I spray Pam into my comp ports to prevent any sticking of carbon. It also help in reducing foul up by using thick plated, JHP and TMJ/CMJ bullets because the exposed base of regular FMJ will deposit lead into the comp.

I also use pinpoint oil applicator in between cleanings. For regular cleanings, I spray everything (I remove the optic and mount) with non-chlorinated brake parts cleaner, blow it dry, put oil, blow it again (this time just to spread the oil into the crevices), wipe it down and do a final oiling.

I remove the grips and optic/mount every time.