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Title: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: Richard Dillon on October 08, 2020, 11:02:37 PM
Folks, I would like to buy four mags for my CZ83 in .389 ACP.   Does anyone have a good source for reasonably priced mags?  Thanks so much in advance!
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: Steeldog on December 17, 2020, 01:45:05 AM
Any luck finding any legit ones which are not the fake "mfg CZ"?
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: eastman on December 17, 2020, 05:45:59 PM
the best option is to look for real surplus vz82 magazines (they are interchangeable with the 83 in 9x17 or 9x18)

real surplus mags will have the crossed swords marking

CZ-USA used to import commercial 82/83 magazines, but stopped carrying them a year or two back
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: Terminatorret on December 23, 2020, 08:36:55 AM
I strongly CONCUR with Eastman. Don't waste time (like I did) trying to get aftermarket mags to work reliablly.
ONE "crossed sword" (or new OEM from CZ USA) mag is worth a bag full of anything else. Especially the "mfg CZ" mags...which I purchased 4 because they were such a good deal.
I tried to get them to work for months, even changing mag follower springs and tweeking the magazine "feed throat" dimensions. Never got more than two or four consecutive feeds. I finally swallowed my pride and threw them in the trash after flatening them with a hammer. I didn't want anyone accidentally finding them in my trash and attempting to use them.
The ammo alone that I wasted would have bought me a couple of the real CZ mags.
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: bonj on December 23, 2020, 04:03:18 PM
Good advice!
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: BeoBill on December 23, 2020, 04:24:14 PM
I strongly CONCUR with Eastman. Don't waste time (like I did) trying to get aftermarket mags to work reliablly.
ONE "crossed sword" (or new OEM from CZ USA) mag is worth a bag full of anything else. Especially the "mfg CZ" mags...which I purchased 4 because they were such a good deal.
I tried to get them to work for months, even changing mag follower springs and tweeking the magazine "feed throat" dimensions. Never got more than two or four consecutive feeds. I finally swallowed my pride and threw them in the trash after flatening them with a hammer. I didn't want anyone accidentally finding them in my trash and attempting to use them.
The ammo alone that I wasted would have bought me a couple of the real CZ mags.

Living behind enemy lines I have to take what I can get. Luckily I was able to snag a pair of 10 round mags from CZ USA back when, but my new hobby has been to try to re-manufacture the crap "CZ-mfgr" mags to factory spec, with occasional success. Straightening and filing the feed lips to spec has helped so far. However, I do not EVER plan on depending on them in real life. 
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: bonj on December 24, 2020, 07:35:13 AM
https://www.gunpartscorp.com/category/magazinesstrp-clips/magazines/cz/83-cz

Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: barrelproofdrinker88 on December 25, 2020, 08:43:32 AM
Those are the crappy ones I believe.
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: BeoBill on December 26, 2020, 01:19:04 PM
Yes, they are. Look for the seam down the back.

And overpriced too, I got mine for $20.
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: bonj on December 26, 2020, 04:00:54 PM
https://www.jgsales.com/cz-82-9x18-12rd,-or-83-380acp-13rd,-czech-mfg-mag,-blued,-new.-p-70202.html?osCsid=98063e41893ec8d7d86c0ed72a751876
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: BeoBill on December 27, 2020, 05:00:02 PM
Knockoff crap. Seams are evident.
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: zbillster on January 13, 2021, 05:48:17 PM
Hey gang. I haven't been on this forum in quite a while. I noticed this thread, and I have two CZ82 mags I'm willing to sell.

I bought a surplus CZ82 through Classic Firearms in 2013. I had to send it to a gunsmith once for repair, and then it developed another problem, so I mothballed it rather than throw more money at it.

One of these mags came from Classic Firearms in 2013, while the other I bought from Rogue Elite in CZ-USA packaging around 2016.

I took some photos and put them here.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/vMTjSSn8StLHU37F7 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/vMTjSSn8StLHU37F7)
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: kabic on January 16, 2021, 01:16:00 PM
I got a magazine from DK firearms, has the seam.

Fits a little tight, but think it will work.  Have not shot yet.
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: bonj on April 27, 2021, 04:51:18 PM
Hey gang. I haven't been on this forum in quite a while. I noticed this thread, and I have two CZ82 mags I'm willing to sell.

I bought a surplus CZ82 through Classic Firearms in 2013. I had to send it to a gunsmith once for repair, and then it developed another problem, so I mothballed it rather than throw more money at it.

One of these mags came from Classic Firearms in 2013, while the other I bought from Rogue Elite in CZ-USA packaging around 2016.

I took some photos and put them here.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/vMTjSSn8StLHU37F7 (https://photos.app.goo.gl/vMTjSSn8StLHU37F7)
 

nice pics! so that is how one can provide pics on this website! Thx!
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: BeoBill on April 28, 2021, 05:05:12 PM
I got a magazine from DK firearms, has the seam.

Fits a little tight, but think it will work.  Have not shot yet.

You're going to have to completely remaufacture it (completely disassemble, clean up internals with a file and resize the body and feed lips to correct size and dimensions/contours) and do a complete lube job before it will even get to the "some FTFs and stovepipes" stage of "operation". They're junk. Ask me how I know...
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: noway on September 22, 2021, 06:31:21 PM
https://www.apexgunparts.com/
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: BeoBill on September 24, 2021, 04:42:08 PM
Sorry, but I'm not finding them there. Do you have a product-specific link?
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: moeman on September 24, 2021, 05:08:31 PM
I had to search for a while, but I finally found the page. If I didn't live in a restricted state, I might order a couple. Not cheap tho - ~$40.
https://www.apexgunparts.com/czech-cz83-13rd-magazine-steel-base-380acp.html (https://www.apexgunparts.com/czech-cz83-13rd-magazine-steel-base-380acp.html)
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: noway on September 24, 2021, 06:12:18 PM
True, not cheap. But could be worse, could be a Sig Sauer!  ;)

$10 more than the non-functional aftermarket products.
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: eastman on September 24, 2021, 09:12:07 PM
I had to search for a while, but I finally found the page. If I didn't live in a restricted state, I might order a couple. Not cheap tho - ~$40.
https://www.apexgunparts.com/czech-cz83-13rd-magazine-steel-base-380acp.html (https://www.apexgunparts.com/czech-cz83-13rd-magazine-steel-base-380acp.html)

they look to be the real ones (from the pictures and the reviews).

they may be expensive for used mags, but they will work great
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: noway on September 26, 2021, 06:55:25 PM
Just ordered a couple. I’ll report back if they’re the real McCoy or not.
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: noway on September 30, 2021, 06:02:51 PM
The mags from Apex are genuine and seat properly; however the little crossed swords ?? mark has been drilled out. Don’t know why, but otherwise factory original. I’ll post pics shortly.
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: eastman on September 30, 2021, 10:22:58 PM
The mags from Apex are genuine and seat properly; however the little crossed swords ?? mark has been drilled out. Don’t know why, but otherwise factory original. I’ll post pics shortly.

I have a couple of mags like that. Probably did that before selling them as surplus.
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: noway on October 01, 2021, 11:23:03 AM
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Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: bonj on October 03, 2021, 04:18:41 PM
Folks, I would like to buy four mags for my CZ83 in .389 ACP.   Does anyone have a good source for reasonably priced mags?  Thanks so much in advance!

https://www.gunpartscorp.com/category/magazines/cz/83-cz
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: tulio on October 08, 2021, 04:28:48 AM
Hello everybody,
I was wondering if there was an update here.
I am stock with a CZ 83 (.380ACP) without mag.
Any help?
Thank you
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: noway on October 08, 2021, 06:27:32 AM
Check the post right above yours.
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: tulio on October 08, 2021, 08:58:22 AM
Check the post right above yours.
Right. Thanks.
T
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: moeman on October 08, 2021, 01:30:30 PM
So are the ones from gunpartscorp the good ones, or the "don't waste your time" ones? The price is certainly better than apex. 
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: noway on October 08, 2021, 04:02:45 PM
Assuming WYSIWYG look like the good ones.
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: bonj on October 08, 2021, 05:22:35 PM
Numrich Gun Parts is a quality sight. If not satisfied, they will provide a USPS return label.
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: eastman on October 08, 2021, 10:56:49 PM
So are the ones from gunpartscorp the good ones, or the "don't waste your time" ones? The price is certainly better than apex.

the price (and lack of actual good pictures) is what concerns me about them

a lot of US dealers sell the crappy "mfg cz" magazines and claim them to be real factory CZ mags
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: BeoBill on October 09, 2021, 02:13:35 PM
The good ones are welded and have no seam line down the back.
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: Coach Ed on October 23, 2021, 08:28:50 PM
   I have used the magazines from Apex Gun Parts. Although they are used they work fine.
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: moeman on November 12, 2021, 05:45:05 PM
I periodically do searches for these, and found these today for 19.99:
https://www.classicfirearms.com/cz-82-83-blued-steel-magazine/
I ordered two, and will report back when able.

Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: dedmouse on December 17, 2021, 12:29:09 PM
Any word on these $20 mags from Classic Firearms? Lots of negative reviews on their site.
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: BeoBill on December 17, 2021, 08:56:58 PM
At $20 a pop, those have to be the crap Chinese knockoffs.

Stay far away or resign yourself to completely remanufacturing each of them to spec to get anything resembling functionality.
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: Hawkeye_90 on December 18, 2021, 10:43:27 AM
I bought mags for my cz 70 from tripple K and they worked well for my 70. They have them for the 82/83 but they are 48 dollars.

I have no personal experience with them.
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: StevenS on April 16, 2022, 03:47:45 PM
The mags from Apex are genuine and seat properly; however the little crossed swords ?? mark has been drilled out. Don’t know why, but otherwise factory original. I’ll post pics shortly.

I picked these up at the last gun show.  When I first saw them I never thought they would be CZ 83 mags, and the dealer had no idea what they were for.  What's interesting is that these also had the crossed swords dilled out.  I also only paid $15 each for them - best deal I've gotten in a while.

(https://i.postimg.cc/BnzCs5XF/Mags-1.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/9fqYf47n/Mags-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: Psyop96 on April 17, 2022, 02:42:18 AM
Great find and great deal! Especially still in the original wrap. Action Arms Ltd was one of the importers of CZ products in the early 90s prior to the establishment of CZ-USA in the mid-90s.


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Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: BeoBill on April 22, 2022, 06:13:34 PM
I wonder why they drilled out the crossed swords?
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: Cordite on July 13, 2022, 04:09:15 PM
I have the problem, where find real magazines that won’t fart.
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: bonj on July 13, 2022, 04:26:38 PM
I used to buy a lot of CZ OEM .32acp mags directly from CZ and none of them ever had a crossed sword on the mag.
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: Laufer on November 30, 2022, 08:48:35 PM
Were the Czech "crossed swords" drilled out of some 82/83 magazines due to sensitive arms deals between the Czech Republic (or C-Slovakia) and any 'sanctioned' countries?

This could easily explain the attempt to conceal identifying marks.



Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: eastman on December 23, 2022, 10:19:57 PM
Were the Czech "crossed swords" drilled out of some 82/83 magazines due to sensitive arms deals between the Czech Republic (or C-Slovakia) and any 'sanctioned' countries?

This could easily explain the attempt to conceal identifying marks.

I have vz82 mags where the crossed sword mark was drilled out. Probably done when the mags were officially retired and sold as surplus.
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: Laufer on December 26, 2022, 07:15:06 PM
eastman: Roger the “drilled out” swords.

The mag which came with my 83 is the same.

If the GB seller had Not included any decent photo of the floor plate- I wouldn’t have bought the very pricy item to have a very reliable spare , for the club.

Apparently many sellers refuse to include photos which depict the Unwanted “cz mfg”.
Title: Re: Any sources for CZ 83 magazines .380?
Post by: eastman on January 08, 2023, 10:33:49 PM
... and they won't post the back view to show the nasty seam on the back of the fake mags.