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Title: Picked up a SAR9 Glock/VP9 clone. Nice gun!
Post by: dwcopple on October 14, 2020, 06:06:31 PM
https://youtu.be/UtZCBSlCuuM (https://youtu.be/UtZCBSlCuuM)
Title: Re: Picked up a SAR9 Glock/VP9 clone. Nice gun!
Post by: dwcopple on October 14, 2020, 06:07:19 PM
just found out the sights glow when you shine a bright light on em to charge em up too!
Title: Re: Picked up a SAR9 Glock/VP9 clone. Nice gun!
Post by: Gunnerdad80 on October 14, 2020, 07:28:02 PM
Great gun for the price. Sweet shooter too.
Title: Re: Picked up a SAR9 Glock/VP9 clone. Nice gun!
Post by: dwcopple on October 15, 2020, 08:14:44 AM
https://youtu.be/Ym6CNo1rfRI (https://youtu.be/Ym6CNo1rfRI)
Title: Re: Picked up a SAR9 Glock/VP9 clone. Nice gun!
Post by: gdavis on October 15, 2020, 10:33:26 AM
I have been looking at these and am imnpressed. I have a SAR B6P compact and am very happy with it. The prices on these SARs prove that you don't have to pay a ton to get a really good gun.



Title: Re: Picked up a SAR9 Glock/VP9 clone. Nice gun!
Post by: Gunnerdad80 on October 15, 2020, 10:58:56 AM
I have been looking at these and am imnpressed. I have a SAR B6P compact and am very happy with it. The prices on these SARs prove that you don't have to pay a ton to get a really good gun.

Agreed indeed.
Title: Re: Picked up a SAR9 Glock/VP9 clone. Nice gun!
Post by: Gunnerdad80 on October 15, 2020, 11:06:14 AM
https://youtu.be/Ym6CNo1rfRI (https://youtu.be/Ym6CNo1rfRI)

Thanks a lot dwcopple...

I wish I would’ve known that before I scraped out the white paint and painted my sights with high-viz fluorescent yellow and red… ;D
Title: Re: Picked up a SAR9 Glock/VP9 clone. Nice gun!
Post by: huskyfever03 on October 16, 2020, 02:39:01 PM
gonna have to look into one as a cheap glovebox gun
Title: Re: Picked up a SAR9 Glock/VP9 clone. Nice gun!
Post by: Gunnerdad80 on October 16, 2020, 04:44:02 PM
gonna have to look into one as a cheap glovebox gun

My SAR9 is a truck gun too. My Home defense pistol is a SAR CM9. Both are great values for the money and +P rated.
Title: Re: Picked up a SAR9 Glock/VP9 clone. Nice gun!
Post by: dwcopple on October 20, 2020, 07:53:56 AM
installed a fiber optic front sight for a Glock on mine last night!   8)
https://youtu.be/zfzMj8ukB98 (https://youtu.be/zfzMj8ukB98)
Title: Re: Picked up a SAR9 Glock/VP9 clone. Nice gun!
Post by: Gunnerdad80 on October 20, 2020, 07:44:30 PM
Thanks for the video and info dwcopple, good stuff.
Title: Re: Picked up a SAR9 Glock/VP9 clone. Nice gun!
Post by: dwcopple on October 22, 2020, 07:08:53 AM
Thanks for the video and info dwcopple, good stuff.
8) ;)
Title: Re: Picked up a SAR9 Glock/VP9 clone. Nice gun!
Post by: dwcopple on October 24, 2020, 10:33:27 AM
Spent some time on the phone with SAR USA yesterday trying to get the safety replacement pin.  They gave me some BS about paying shipping both ways and they'd do it free as a courtesy service...F that.  I said,  listen, I've detail stripped this gun a few times already, just send me the pin.  Nope.  Piss poor service.  So, I made one myself yesterday.   I may look into having a bunch made and offering them for sale for a modest price.  Pics later.
Title: Re: Picked up a SAR9 Glock/VP9 clone. Nice gun!
Post by: Gunnerdad80 on October 24, 2020, 11:26:58 AM
Spent some time on the phone with SAR USA yesterday trying to get the safety replacement pin.

Are you talkin about the little roll pin that holds the right side safety lever on?
Title: Re: Picked up a SAR9 Glock/VP9 clone. Nice gun!
Post by: dwcopple on October 26, 2020, 07:09:54 AM
no, the crosspin that eliminates the manual safety all together.  I made one and it functions perfectly.  I have a machinist friend running me off a batch now that I am going to offer for sale at the price of $15 shipped for each.  It will make the gun the same as the SAR9T which doesn't have the manual safety wings.  I am trying to figure out if I should make a webpage or offer them on Etsy or something like that.  I doubt eBay will let me.
Title: Re: Picked up a SAR9 Glock/VP9 clone. Nice gun!
Post by: Gunnerdad80 on October 26, 2020, 07:32:10 AM
no, the crosspin that eliminates the manual safety all together.  I made one and it functions perfectly.  I have a machinist friend running me off a batch now that I am going to offer for sale at the price of $15 shipped for each.  It will make the gun the same as the SAR9T which doesn't have the manual safety wings.  I am trying to figure out if I should make a webpage or offer them on Etsy or something like that.  I doubt eBay will let me.

I’m a safety guy. Wanna get rid of the safety levers?
Title: Re: Picked up a SAR9 Glock/VP9 clone. Nice gun!
Post by: 9Parabellum19 on October 26, 2020, 04:01:28 PM
Spent some time on the phone with SAR USA yesterday trying to get the safety replacement pin.  They gave me some BS about paying shipping both ways and they'd do it free as a courtesy service...F that.  I said,  listen, I've detail stripped this gun a few times already, just send me the pin.  Nope.  Piss poor service.  So, I made one myself yesterday.   I may look into having a bunch made and offering them for sale for a modest price.  Pics later.

You're not alone.  I don't think anyone has said their customer service is good.  My experience mirrors yours.
Title: Re: Picked up a SAR9 Glock/VP9 clone. Nice gun!
Post by: E30Eric on October 26, 2020, 04:16:09 PM
I have been looking at buying one of these for a while
Title: Re: Picked up a SAR9 Glock/VP9 clone. Nice gun!
Post by: dwcopple on October 27, 2020, 07:42:23 AM
I have been looking at buying one of these for a while
They are spectacular.   HK grip with Glock simplicity.  Hard to beat.
Title: Re: Picked up a SAR9 Glock/VP9 clone. Nice gun!
Post by: Kayin on October 28, 2020, 09:27:32 PM
I have been looking at buying one of these for a while
They are spectacular.   HK grip with Glock simplicity.  Hard to beat.

Outside their customer service apparently - but that's pretty much par for the course for these companies.  Last time I held one I wasn't a fan of the trigger - have you done any good upgrades there?  Also sounds like I'll need a gun smith to change the sights.
Title: Re: Picked up a SAR9 Glock/VP9 clone. Nice gun!
Post by: Gunnerdad80 on October 28, 2020, 10:08:04 PM
FWIW, I really like my CM9 and SAR9 but agree that customer service needs work. Maybe if and when things return to some semblance of normal the customer service will improve. The trigger on my SAR9 was pretty gritty outta the box but smoothed out decently after several 100 rounds and the slide lock/release loosened up.
Title: Re: Picked up a SAR9 Glock/VP9 clone. Nice gun!
Post by: Brian Ahearn on October 29, 2020, 08:00:24 AM
I sent mine to Galloway Precision and had them them install their trigger setup ,huge improvement to the trigger, only other mod that I did was install a Glock front Ameriglo night sight and I blacked out the rear sight. I have been shooting and carrying it at the shop for 8 months now, great gun. I think as Sar becomes mainstream more aftermarket parts will appear and yes hopefully the factory service will improve.
Title: Re: Picked up a SAR9 Glock/VP9 clone. Nice gun!
Post by: dwcopple on October 30, 2020, 07:47:09 AM
Outside their customer service apparently - but that's pretty much par for the course for these companies.  Last time I held one I wasn't a fan of the trigger - have you done any good upgrades there?  Also sounds like I'll need a gun smith to change the sights.
you don't need a gunsmith to change sights.  The front sight is a Glock replacement and the rear is fine unless you REALLY need to change it and I believe an M&P rear sight option can be fitted with a little filing. 

Yes, I did some stuff to improve the trigger. 
1. the striker blocker in the slide is oversprung from the factory, Galloway used to offer a lighter replacement but after talking to them, they are discontinuing SAR9 stuff.  Not sure why. 
2. The trigger absolutely benefits from a $.25 Glock style trigger job if you will.  Being it has the "chassis" around the trigger group, the trigger bar runs against metal rather than polymer in a Glock.  The inside casting of my chassis was rough and the trigger bar was scratching a line into it.  I did a 1000,1500,2000,2500 sanding and buffed with a dremel with jeweler's rouge to smooth it up like glass.  Also, the tail of the cruciform on mine was rough causing drag on the striker face.  I sanded and polished that the same way. 
3. The OEM connector is  coated in some black finish.  It isn't smooth.  All I did there was some jewelers rouge on the dremel to buff it down to bare shiny metal and coated that articulating surface in grease. 
I did the complete trigger job including detail strip and reassembly in under 45 mins.  Remember on the Glock style trigger, the trigger spring ASSISTS the pull, not retricts it.  the SAR model trigger spring is stronger than an OEM Glock one.  leave it alone. 

Also, my trigger safety sat proud of the trigger face on my gun and hurt my finger pad.  I pulled it shut and held it in place tying it to the trigger guard with a bread bag tie and sanded off the excess material with 220 grit wrapped around a marker.  I finish sanded with 400 grit.  The trigger feel is MUCH improved.

Now all it needs is some more rounds ran through it. ;)
Title: Re: Picked up a SAR9 Glock/VP9 clone. Nice gun!
Post by: tello1 on October 30, 2020, 10:32:31 AM
https://youtu.be/UtZCBSlCuuM (https://youtu.be/UtZCBSlCuuM)

This pistol shoot flawlessly, I regret selling mine during the outbreak of the pandemic, things became tough. I wish I can lay my hands on it again.
Title: Re: Picked up a SAR9 Glock/VP9 clone. Nice gun!
Post by: dwcopple on October 30, 2020, 04:16:15 PM
I hope you can too ^^^
Title: Re: Picked up a SAR9 Glock/VP9 clone. Nice gun!
Post by: dwcopple on November 17, 2020, 07:57:40 AM
Okay guys! I had a few of the safety delete pins lathed for me and they are ready to sell.  $18 shipped per unit.  All you do is knock out the 1/16th roll pin in the safety L side ambi lever and pry it off then pull the safety lever out the other side of the gun and replace it with this pin.  It just taps into place and is friction fit.  If you want me to cold blue both ends, add $2 for total of $20 shipped.  I accept PayPal, Venmo, Zelle, or Cash App.  Or send me cash and I'll ship once received.  PM me. 
Title: Re: Picked up a SAR9 Glock/VP9 clone. Nice gun!
Post by: MetalGravy on November 19, 2020, 05:44:48 PM
. . .I doubt eBay will let me.

Why not?  I've bought and sold gun stuff on Ebay (mags, sights, snap caps, speedloader).  There's a 9mm compact conversion kit for small frame Witnesses on there now.  I don't see why they'd raise a stink over a rollpin.
Title: Re: Picked up a SAR9 Glock/VP9 clone. Nice gun!
Post by: dwcopple on November 20, 2020, 07:45:54 AM
it's not a rollpin.  It's technically a safety delete too.

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Title: Re: Picked up a SAR9 Glock/VP9 clone. Nice gun!
Post by: pbellp2012 on November 29, 2020, 01:15:10 PM
Been looking at these - thanks for the review!
Title: Re: Picked up a SAR9 Glock/VP9 clone. Nice gun!
Post by: eagle-eye on November 29, 2020, 06:05:19 PM
SAR USA doesn't have much in the way of service right now because all they are gtting from Turkey is new guns to fill orders, not parts to service them. I lost a front sight on a brand new gun at the end of June. SAR promised a new sight as soon as they could get one. I still haven't gotten one. I think they have forgotten me.
They are nice guns but service really needs to improve.