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GENERAL => A Day at the Range! => Topic started by: Cyanide on November 17, 2020, 05:43:51 PM

Title: First shots, 7.62x39 AR and TA47 at 100 yards
Post by: Cyanide on November 17, 2020, 05:43:51 PM
Nothing spectacular, just a few quick shots with my CMMG Mk4 at 100 yards from unsupported prone after getting a good 36 yard zero (rounds should be impacting about 3.1” high at 100 yards).  Figure not too terrible since the TA47’s reticle is a large 9.2 MOA triangle, and I’m using the tip of the triangle as my aiming point. Ammo used was cheap steel case Tula 8M3.

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View of my backstop at 130 yards (I can only shoot a maximum of 100 yards, however). For reference, the black box painted on the cardboard measures 14” W x 9” H, which is what the illuminated red vertical part of the reticle is superimposed on.

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Title: Re: First shots, 7.62x39 AR and TA47 at 100 yards
Post by: M1A4ME on November 17, 2020, 07:20:00 PM
Triangular "dot" isn't easy to use for precise shooting.

I have a DP Pro on an AR15 pistol.  My wife had it on a CZ75 Compact and hated it.  She preferred the dot DP Pro.

It's not easy to put that point on the same spot every time.

I have a SUIT (not many around these days, but I like them a lot) has a pointer that comes down from the top of the image you see through the lens.  It's wider at the top and tapers down to a point in the center of the view/lens.  My AR15, at 300 yds. shoots about a 4" wide by 6" tall group.  I think the oval group is due to the difficulty of getting that sharp point on the same spot of the target every time.

Not that a big glowing circle is any easier if you were trying to shoot a ground hog in the head at any distance.  I have red dots on several ARs, but for the best groups/shooting I prefer a scope.

You say that's a CMMG rifle?  Don't they make one with a lower receiver that uses AK magazines?  I've been thinking about something like that.  Iv'e got the AK magazines but I'd have to buy those curvy looking AR magazines if I got the version it looks like you've got.

If you can find some, try some Silver Bear 7.62X39.  I saw a guy shooting really nice groups with some of that one day.  Way better than what his rifle shot with Tula or Wolf ammo.
Title: First shots, 7.62x39 AR and TA47 at 100 yards
Post by: Cyanide on November 17, 2020, 10:23:07 PM
M1A4ME, yep, that huge triangle (tip) doesn’t lend itself to precision for sure! Eventually this TA47 is getting replaced with a TA44 (Red Ring & Dot), and it will end up on my wife’s Russian-chambered AR, and mine will wear a TA33 w/7.62x39 BDC Horseshoe Dot.

Yes, CMMG makes the Mutant which takes AK mags. I had one briefly and although I loved the concept at first, the luster wore off quick. Most of the mags I had for my WASR-10 and PSAK-47 were equipped with BHO followers and functioned flawlessly in this pair, but for some reason the Mutant would choke on them like clockwork. I’m also not a fan of having to use the AR charging handle to cycle the action after every mag change, compared to using a traditional AK/VZ side lever.

I’ve got tons of the 8M3 and also my preferred round, the Golden Tiger 124 gr FMJBT.
Title: Re: First shots, 7.62x39 AR and TA47 at 100 yards
Post by: pbellp2012 on November 29, 2020, 10:50:58 AM
Have you ever tried an ACSS reticle? I love those on my x39s.
Title: Re: First shots, 7.62x39 AR and TA47 at 100 yards
Post by: Cyanide on December 01, 2020, 11:22:09 AM
Have you ever tried an ACSS reticle? I love those on my x39s.
No, I haven’t. I was able to look through one a friend has and to me, it was too “busy”. The green horseshoe and dot reticle offered on the TA33 is what I’m going with in the future on mine.

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Title: Re: First shots, 7.62x39 AR and TA47 at 100 yards
Post by: KnightSchneider on December 02, 2020, 08:39:22 PM
I’ll second the ACSS reticle.

I have one calibrated for 7.62x39 on my 527, and it’s a stellar pair.

Lots of the benefit of the chevron, but precise as well.


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