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GENERAL => Right to Keep and Bear Arms => Topic started by: Earl Keese on November 25, 2020, 03:52:30 PM

Title: Pistol Brace "Legality"
Post by: Earl Keese on November 25, 2020, 03:52:30 PM
More info regarding the thread started by Den Stinnet. FYI Grendel, this story broke last night, not six months ago as you mentioned when you locked the other thread.

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/the-atfs-false-narrative-surrounding-the-legality-of-sb-tactical-pistol-braces-exposed/
Title: Re: Pistol Brace "Legality"
Post by: Grendel on November 25, 2020, 04:07:24 PM
June 17th 2020:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9J4VFwXzP8
Title: Re: Pistol Brace "Legality"
Post by: Earl Keese on November 25, 2020, 04:23:42 PM
June 17th 2020:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9J4VFwXzP8
The issue back in June was regarding 2 specific AR pistols manufactured and sold by Q. This is a different issue, and is far more sweeping in its effect. It's relevant to many Scorpion pistol owners. It's actually explained in the linked article.
Title: Re: Pistol Brace "Legality"
Post by: armoredman on December 10, 2020, 10:50:10 AM
There is a great deal of confusion and consternation involving the issue, and yes, we do have a current issue specific to the Honey Badger pistol/brace combo, and possible with SB due to them only having letters for two of the several variants they offer. Have they been in touch with the Biden campaign about what to do in the future? Possible, but there is nothing set in stone as of now. I will monitor this one closely as most of us will, because I don't want to see anyone here fall afoul of random and capricious changes brought on by political wind shifting.
Title: Re: Pistol Brace "Legality"
Post by: armoredman on December 17, 2020, 12:32:19 AM
ATFE will be making an announcement tomorrow. From what I am told, rifle style pistols will not be allowed to have any type of brace unless that exact pistol and that exact brace are approved by ATFE.  We wait to see what actually is said, but those who know have said the new rules are vague and capricious. I recommend all here to be wary. I fear I will never see Goblin again.
Title: Re: Pistol Brace "Legality"
Post by: RSR on December 17, 2020, 12:43:26 AM
Yep.  All this coming from Biden and his team. 

Also, MAC alleges that gun owners will have the right to SBR them w/o the SBR fee, but with costs of engraving, etc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxFEgsEL92U

This guy alleges that SB Tactical knew about it for awhile, but failed to let anyone know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj-0-q7VZmk
Title: Re: Pistol Brace "Legality"
Post by: Earl Keese on December 17, 2020, 06:30:09 AM
I'd say we have both feet on the slippery slope now. . .
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/no-pistol-braces-are-not-banned-but-atf-is-attempting-further-restrictions/
Title: Re: Pistol Brace "Legality"
Post by: swede69 on December 20, 2020, 12:58:38 AM
You better pay attention this is the start. Make you comments known to the atf  by the first of the year.  Or just accept your fait. Follow the links from tfb to the aft.
Title: Re: Pistol Brace "Legality"
Post by: MetalGravy on December 23, 2020, 05:51:53 PM
Forum members who live in the US, please go and comment on the ATF's proposed changes to handling braces.  I left comment yesterday.  Remember to keep it civil.


https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2020/12/18/2020-27857/objective-factors-for-classifying-weapons-with-stabilizing-braces (https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2020/12/18/2020-27857/objective-factors-for-classifying-weapons-with-stabilizing-braces)
Title: Re: Pistol Brace "Legality"
Post by: Ross7 on December 23, 2020, 08:42:53 PM
The ATF seems to have re-thought the brace issue, for now.

ATF Backs Down, Withdraws Comment Request on Pistol Brace ‘Objective Factors’ Classification
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/breaking-atf-withdraws-comment-request-on-pistol-brace-objective-factors-classification/
Title: Re: Pistol Brace "Legality"
Post by: FreeAmericanMO on December 23, 2020, 09:24:55 PM
Yes the atf seems to have backed down.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/docs/general-notice/sb-criteria-withdrawal-notice-12-23-20pdf
Title: Re: Pistol Brace "Legality"
Post by: Gunnerdad80 on December 23, 2020, 09:29:12 PM
AMERICA, #%+* YEAAAH!!!
Title: Re: Pistol Brace "Legality"
Post by: Earl Keese on December 23, 2020, 09:29:42 PM
Great news! For now. . .
Title: Re: Pistol Brace "Legality"
Post by: SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM on December 24, 2020, 04:55:28 AM
Well a small battle has been won here but the real war starts 01/20/2021
Title: Re: Pistol Brace "Legality"
Post by: RSR on December 24, 2020, 06:37:00 AM
They're probably just reloading for a letter that'd carry the force of law like they did with slidefire stocks.
Title: Re: Pistol Brace "Legality"
Post by: armoredman on December 30, 2020, 12:34:11 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, make sure you keep the contact information for your elected officials close by and keep a weather eye on ATFE. We will be here again, and soon.
Title: Re: Pistol Brace "Legality"
Post by: Gunnerdad80 on December 30, 2020, 09:29:24 PM
No doubt. :-\