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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CZ85, 85B, & 85 Combat => Topic started by: Bret on January 07, 2021, 11:04:04 PM

Title: 9x21 chambered CZ 85
Post by: Bret on January 07, 2021, 11:04:04 PM

I just added a new CZ to my collection.  This one is a 9x21 chambered CZ 85.  I covered up the serial number, but does anyone know what the 5874 on the right side of the frame denotes?

(https://i.postimg.cc/CLvbhhgS/CZ85-9x21-left-view.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/BnXHtrSD/CZ85-9x21-right-view.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/656dx7FM/9x21-vs-9mm.jpg)
9x21 (aka 9x21IMI) vs 9x19 (aka 9mm Luger or 9mm Parabellum)

Title: Re: 9x21 chambered CZ 85
Post by: Tok36 on January 07, 2021, 11:22:02 PM

Neat, i do not believe that i have seen one of these before.

Title: Re: 9x21 chambered CZ 85
Post by: Mark-combat on January 08, 2021, 02:38:02 AM

very nice find, those were made for countries were it was forbidden to have 'militairy' 9X19, never seen one before.

Title: Re: 9x21 chambered CZ 85
Post by: Rock-it3 on January 08, 2021, 11:01:41 PM

Cool, I don't know much about 9x21 except that it is longer than 9x19 ;)

I believe the number on the right side of the frame is the original serial number. I believe the number you covered up on the left side of the slide is the importer's serial number, since, being 9x21, the gun was probably originally sold in Europe and later imported into the U.S.

Title: Re: 9x21 chambered CZ 85
Post by: Bret on January 08, 2021, 11:48:07 PM

Quote from: Rock-it3 on January 08, 2021, 11:01:41 PM

Cool, I don't know much about 9x21 except that it is longer than 9x19 ;)

The cases are, but the cartridge overall length isn't.

I believe the number on the right side of the frame is the original serial number. I believe the number you covered up on the left side of the slide is the importer's serial number, since, being 9x21, the gun was probably originally sold in Europe and later imported into the U.S.[/quote]
The numbers on the barrel, slide and frame that I covered up are definitely the factory serial number.  I have multiple other CZ75's with serial numbers in the same location.  They as well as the 5874 were all engraved prior to the pistol being finished.  You can see where the importer engraved on the front left of the slide.  They kind of buggered up the finish when doing so.

Title: Re: 9x21 chambered CZ 85
Post by: GMork on January 12, 2021, 10:11:13 AM

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Title: Re: 9x21 chambered CZ 85
Post by: Bret on January 12, 2021, 12:00:34 PM

That's insightful.  I have Ruger P89 chambered in 9x21.  I'll check it to see if it has an additional number.

I shot the pistol Sunday.  It ran 100% with Fiocchi 123gr FMJ.  I think it may need a bit stiffer recoil spring.

Title: Re: 9x21 chambered CZ 85
Post by: GMork on January 12, 2021, 12:44:30 PM

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