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GENERAL => Right to Keep and Bear Arms => Topic started by: armoredman on January 11, 2021, 05:25:37 PM

Title: The communication war is going hot
Post by: armoredman on January 11, 2021, 05:25:37 PM
GoDaddy nuked ar15.com, the largest gun board in the world, and they had to crawl back online at ar15-backup.com. GoDaddy, a serve we USED to use, accused Arf of doing illegal activities. I doubt it. However, it should be noted Facebook nuked CZ-USA home page and Dan Wesson home page so the admins cannot even access it. Drifting aimlessly. Get offline contact info for CZF'ers in your area if you can. I cannot guarantee this site will remain online for any length of time. Insert dramatic music and fade to black here... :P
Title: Re: The communication war is going hot
Post by: MadDuner on January 11, 2021, 05:49:01 PM
Very sad that you are having to face this threat.

I wish you and all the rest of us in this horrible new reality - the very best.
Title: Re: The communication war is going hot
Post by: SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM on January 11, 2021, 06:44:50 PM
Well we now know who we face and who is pulling the strings. You know what I'm thinking without saying it. Sooo without going into detail you know the answer. Either standing or on your knees.
Title: Re: The communication war is going hot
Post by: crosstimbers on January 13, 2021, 09:12:01 AM
I have never felt the threat to our freedoms as keenly as Im feeling it now, I have never worried about the future of our country as much as now. It seems all stops have been pulled out and nothing is too impossible to imagine. Not trying to be "political", but it seems problematic at best to try and discus the threats to our rights without at least nudging the borders of speaking about political matters.

I'm not over-reacting. Im just worried as heck and I dont think thats an unreasonable reaction to current events.
Title: Re: The communication war is going hot
Post by: Joe L on January 13, 2021, 03:23:32 PM
My twitter account got zapped last weekend.  Maybe because I only followed one elected official and one radio personality, and following them was deemed unacceptable use of their private platform I suppose.  Happened to 17k other people also. 
Title: Re: The communication war is going hot
Post by: armoredman on January 13, 2021, 07:17:46 PM
We must keep our posts under that radar level...chaps my hide to have to say so but this is the last online bastion of CZ. Cue dramatic music and heroic close-up.
Title: Re: The communication war is going hot
Post by: 1940Mopar on January 13, 2021, 10:17:58 PM
My twitter account got zapped last weekend.  Maybe because I only followed one elected official and one radio personality, and following them was deemed unacceptable use of their private platform I suppose.  Happened to 17k other people also.

Me too.
Title: Re: The communication war is going hot
Post by: RandyMan on January 13, 2021, 11:32:50 PM
GoDaddy nuked ar15.com, the largest gun board in the world, and they had to crawl back online at ar15-backup.com. GoDaddy, a serve we USED to use, accused Arf of doing illegal activities. I doubt it. However, it should be noted Facebook nuked CZ-USA home page and Dan Wesson home page so the admins cannot even access it. Drifting aimlessly. Get offline contact info for CZF'ers in your area if you can. I cannot guarantee this site will remain online for any length of time. Insert dramatic music and fade to black here... :P

This all is so sad. What is happing to our country?
Title: Re: The communication war is going hot
Post by: GeneticallySwiss on January 14, 2021, 09:21:58 AM
GoDaddy nuked ar15.com, the largest gun board in the world, and they had to crawl back online at ar15-backup.com. GoDaddy, a serve we USED to use, accused Arf of doing illegal activities. I doubt it. However, it should be noted Facebook nuked CZ-USA home page and Dan Wesson home page so the admins cannot even access it. Drifting aimlessly. Get offline contact info for CZF'ers in your area if you can. I cannot guarantee this site will remain online for any length of time. Insert dramatic music and fade to black here... :P

This all is so sad. What is happing to our country?



This is SO much more than sad.  It’s the electronic version of book burning.

GS
Title: Re: The communication war is going hot
Post by: crosstimbers on January 14, 2021, 09:37:52 AM
GoDaddy nuked ar15.com, the largest gun board in the world, and they had to crawl back online at ar15-backup.com. GoDaddy, a serve we USED to use, accused Arf of doing illegal activities. I doubt it. However, it should be noted Facebook nuked CZ-USA home page and Dan Wesson home page so the admins cannot even access it. Drifting aimlessly. Get offline contact info for CZF'ers in your area if you can. I cannot guarantee this site will remain online for any length of time. Insert dramatic music and fade to black here... :P

This all is so sad. What is happing to our country?



This is SO much more than sad.  It’s the electronic version of book burning.

GS

Well said. Yahoo disabled comments on their news articles back a couple of months ago, because they didnt like to see responses outside the agenda they favor. No allowance for dissent seems to be the rule of the day, and so many people/organizations justify such intolerance under the banner of "fighting for social justice" or whatever. Ridiculous but thats whats happening, follow the program or be shut down.
Title: Re: The communication war is going hot
Post by: HollowDawg on January 14, 2021, 10:20:58 AM
“I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.”

? Robert A. Heinlein
Title: Re: The communication war is going hot
Post by: skucera on January 14, 2021, 09:50:50 PM
AR15.com seems to be up again.

Scott



Title: Re: The communication war is going hot
Post by: armoredman on January 15, 2021, 12:15:43 PM
They were back up that afternoon on ar15-backup.com, and I think they have restored the original linkup, while searching for a permanent host. Nothing like going after the largest and oldest international firearms forum publicly.
Title: Re: The communication war is going hot
Post by: GeneticallySwiss on January 15, 2021, 02:56:17 PM
Mark my words gentlemen, NOTHING good will come of all of this, actually quite the contrary.  We are now on the fast track to a substantial clash(es) of varying degrees.  And those that are coming into power have not even begun pushing their agenda, not to mention elements within who wish to push their vile retribution against those who do not share their ideology.  It’s gonna get bad guys, the likes of which none of us have seen, save in history books.


GS
Title: Re: The communication war is going hot
Post by: SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM on January 15, 2021, 03:03:46 PM
Mark my words gentlemen, NOTHING good will come of all of this, actually quite the contrary.  We are now on the fast track to a substantial clash(es) of varying degrees.  And those that are coming into power have not even begun pushing their agenda, not to mention elements within who wish to push their vile retribution against those who do not share their ideology.  It’s gonna get bad guys, the likes of which none of us have seen, save in history books.


GS
On 3 different so called mainstream media programs I've heard the notion floated that "those people" need to be deprogrammed. All I can do is think of all those old timers when I was younger who always said "that'll never happen" we have the constitution. Uh huh 1984 any body.
Title: Re: The communication war is going hot
Post by: crosstimbers on January 15, 2021, 03:13:11 PM
Mark my words gentlemen, NOTHING good will come of all of this, actually quite the contrary.  We are now on the fast track to a substantial clash(es) of varying degrees.  And those that are coming into power have not even begun pushing their agenda, not to mention elements within who wish to push their vile retribution against those who do not share their ideology.  It’s gonna get bad guys, the likes of which none of us have seen, save in history books.


GS

I agree, totally.

Look at the way that similar behavior is portrayed differently, depending on which side is involved. One group described as "insurrectionists" and hunted down by every three letter agency there is...while others are merely "protesters", who if they are even arrested, the charges are often later dropped because "this is a special time", etc.

But the thing I noticed is that it didnt take long before gun owners were among those blamed for recent events. How that applies hardly seems to matter, some will simply make the assertion anyway.

I better stop there, if I havent said too much already.
Title: Re: The communication war is going hot
Post by: SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM on January 15, 2021, 04:18:38 PM
The narrative is always the same with these people. After the 1995 Oklahoma city bombing the NRA and gun owners got blamed for that as well. They screamed for more restrictions and monitoring of people buying gun powder yet there wasn't a single grain of gun powder involved in that and it had nothing to do with guns.
Title: Re: The communication war is going hot
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Title: Re: The communication war is going hot
Post by: Hammer Time on January 18, 2021, 01:42:25 PM
Glad I nuked all my social media accounts years ago and never looked back.
Title: Re: The communication war is going hot
Post by: larry8061 on January 29, 2021, 05:43:40 PM
GoDaddy nuked ar15.com, the largest gun board in the world, and they had to crawl back online at ar15-backup.com. GoDaddy, a serve we USED to use, accused Arf of doing illegal activities. I doubt it. However, it should be noted Facebook nuked CZ-USA home page and Dan Wesson home page so the admins cannot even access it. Drifting aimlessly. Get offline contact info for CZF'ers in your area if you can. I cannot guarantee this site will remain online for any length of time. Insert dramatic music and fade to black here... :P

It is not going to be easy or pretty but this information could be moved to GAB. It won't be deplatformed there.
Title: Re: The communication war is going hot
Post by: larry8061 on January 29, 2021, 05:45:16 PM
We must keep our posts under that radar level...chaps my hide to have to say so but this is the last online bastion of CZ. Cue dramatic music and heroic close-up.

It doesn't have to be.
Title: Re: The communication war is going hot
Post by: armoredman on February 13, 2021, 06:24:01 PM
At this time things have somewhat stabilized, AR15 is fully back on line, Parler is set to come back up. MeWe is an interesting site and Gab is online, but we have no presence there. The Facebook page for this forum is still unmolested as of this morning. My YouTube channel also remains online. We shall see where this goes from here.
Title: Re: The communication war is going hot
Post by: JBruns on February 14, 2021, 07:57:47 AM
You may want to create a MeWe page, to reserve it. Just don't go public with it until you're ready to.
Title: Re: The communication war is going hot
Post by: Goju on February 15, 2021, 07:11:16 AM
We were all put on notice the first time “see something, say something” was uttered months ago.
Title: Re: The communication war is going hot
Post by: v35 on February 18, 2021, 03:28:24 PM
At this time things have somewhat stabilized, AR15 is fully back on line, Parler is set to come back up. MeWe is an interesting site and Gab is online, but we have no presence there. The Facebook page for this forum is still unmolested as of this morning. My YouTube channel also remains online. We shall see where this goes from here.

Thank you armoredman for maintaining this site. I know it's a labor of love and I want you to know how much I appreciate it. FB and YT are not our friends but you already know that.

It is not going to be easy or pretty but this information could be moved to GAB. It won't be deplatformed there.

Don't be too sure.

Hint: Who's the country's biggest ISP? Do you know who owns and controls it? Do you use their services? Are you sure about that?

Do you even have a choice?
Title: Re: The communication war is going hot
Post by: floridaman on February 22, 2021, 09:16:29 AM
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On 3 different so called mainstream media programs I've heard the notion floated that "those people" need to be deprogrammed. All I can do is think of all those old timers when I was younger who always said "that'll never happen" we have the constitution. Uh huh 1984 any body.

My old man keeps saying I’m being alarmist and this has happened throughout history all the time; that its all talk and hype. Being that he’s on the “correct” political faction right now he doesn’t understand what’s going on, and that it’s gonna come for him as well eventually. Some people can’t be told and unfortunately they must be shown.
Title: Re: The communication war is going hot
Post by: JamesCC on April 05, 2021, 12:01:49 AM
Been a crazy few months but it’s not like we couldn’t see this coming for a long time
Title: Re: The communication war is going hot
Post by: v35 on April 05, 2021, 09:33:20 AM
My old man keeps saying I’m being alarmist and this has happened throughout history all the time; that its all talk and hype. Being that he’s on the “correct” political faction right now he doesn’t understand what’s going on, and that it’s gonna come for him as well eventually.

I always thought my old man was the alarmist. Now I know better.

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Some people can’t be told and unfortunately they must be shown.

And then it's too late.
Title: Re: The communication war is going hot
Post by: crosstimbers on April 05, 2021, 05:00:08 PM
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On 3 different so called mainstream media programs I've heard the notion floated that "those people" need to be deprogrammed. All I can do is think of all those old timers when I was younger who always said "that'll never happen" we have the constitution. Uh huh 1984 any body.

My old man keeps saying I’m being alarmist and this has happened throughout history all the time; that its all talk and hype. Being that he’s on the “correct” political faction right now he doesn’t understand what’s going on, and that it’s gonna come for him as well eventually. Some people can’t be told and unfortunately they must be shown.

It is a simple fact that no matter what is going on, someone will try and assert that everything is relative and current events are no different than events in the past. I really think it's a knee-jerk reaction for some, for others its a way of quietly shouting down whatever they dont want to hear or dont agree with.

But for others, I think it's a way of just trying to pretend that everything is all right, or will be okay in the end. Kind of a frog-in-the-boiling-water thing.
Title: Re: The communication war is going hot
Post by: floridaman on April 06, 2021, 08:11:58 AM

It is a simple fact that no matter what is going on, someone will try and assert that everything is relative and current events are no different than events in the past. I really think it's a knee-jerk reaction for some, for others its a way of quietly shouting down whatever they dont want to hear or dont agree with.

But for others, I think it's a way of just trying to pretend that everything is all right, or will be okay in the end. Kind of a frog-in-the-boiling-water thing.

Also, closing topics has worked great for the former.
Title: Re: The communication war is going hot
Post by: crosstimbers on April 06, 2021, 10:09:34 AM

It is a simple fact that no matter what is going on, someone will try and assert that everything is relative and current events are no different than events in the past. I really think it's a knee-jerk reaction for some, for others its a way of quietly shouting down whatever they dont want to hear or dont agree with.

But for others, I think it's a way of just trying to pretend that everything is all right, or will be okay in the end. Kind of a frog-in-the-boiling-water thing.

Also, closing topics has worked great for the former.

Not sure I follow that....?