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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CZ75, 75b, 75 SAO inc the Transitional => Topic started by: Hog Driver on February 27, 2021, 10:13:57 PM

Title: Phosphate 75
Post by: Hog Driver on February 27, 2021, 10:13:57 PM
Just picked up a phosphate finished 1985 CZ 75. Pretty excited! Looks like a real safe queen.(http://i.imgur.com/0Ibx5VE.jpg) (https://imgur.com/0Ibx5VE)(http://i.imgur.com/2lkNR7U.jpg) (https://imgur.com/2lkNR7U)
What do you think? Leave it alone or change the sights?
Title: Re: Phosphate 75
Post by: Metal Wonder Nine Guy on February 27, 2021, 10:53:38 PM
Was this gun refinished? It looks almost too new! I know finishes were quite varied around the Pre-B models. The 75's could have had finishes like parkerization, bluing or painted lacquer finishes.
Title: Re: Phosphate 75
Post by: SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM on February 28, 2021, 06:06:59 AM
That looks like a refinish job albeit a nice one. What's the script on the left front of the slide?
Title: Re: Phosphate 75
Post by: Earl Keese on February 28, 2021, 07:31:13 AM
That looks like a refinish job albeit a nice one. What's the script on the left front of the slide?
Those are import marks, Barska was an early importer. I had one with the same finish, albeit not in as nice of condition. Nice find Hog Driver, congrats!
Title: Re: Phosphate 75
Post by: Fuzzy Sights on February 28, 2021, 09:40:59 AM
Agree good find.  As I am not a collector I would change anything that makes easier for me to shoot the weapon well.  Sights and trigger would be the first things I would change, with grips right behind those two.  If you are a collector, change nothing, but then the gun is just changing safes to be stored in.

JW
Title: Re: Phosphate 75
Post by: Earl Keese on February 28, 2021, 04:34:46 PM
The front sight is staked in and retains the barrel bushing, so can't be changed without machine work. Also, on these the rear dovetail varied in size/cut so aftermarket sights are an expensive proposition.
Title: Re: Phosphate 75
Post by: bang bang on February 28, 2021, 06:07:26 PM
Just picked up a phosphate finished 1985 CZ 75. Pretty excited! Looks like a real safe queen.(http://i.imgur.com/0Ibx5VE.jpg) (https://imgur.com/0Ibx5VE)(http://i.imgur.com/2lkNR7U.jpg) (https://imgur.com/2lkNR7U)
What do you think? Leave it alone or change the sights?

If its refinished its nice.   

I like park after reading up on the how's and why's.  Even on old war horses, that have the park finish, they are still going strong.

I picked up 3 used CZs years ago, to play with and 1 of them was OEM park. But the wear was uneven and the backstrap was warn where rust was forming so i decided to have them all Gunkoted.  They turned out nice but wish i had 1 parked.

note what was stated about the FS and bushing.

if you want to play with your CZ and do the sight mods, i would look at a newer CZ to play with.  If you are not the type to have safe queens, then trade/sell it for a newer used CZ to mod.

good luck

Title: Re: Phosphate 75
Post by: briang2ad on February 28, 2021, 08:46:58 PM
Congrats on a great gun. 

I’d recommended to leave it alone.  Nice finish even if not original.  They did finish them like this.  It’s an original styled gun in great shape.  Getting good sights installed is not simple and it ain’t cheap. 

Shoot and enjoy
Title: Re: Phosphate 75
Post by: Swamp ash on March 01, 2021, 01:57:45 PM
That's a beauty.

I'd enjoy it, as is.

I don't know much about the pre-B models, except what I pick up on here.  Did they always come with a solid trigger pin?
Title: Phosphate 75
Post by: Psyop96 on March 01, 2021, 07:18:41 PM
That looks like a refinish job albeit a nice one. What's the script on the left front of the slide?
Those are import marks, Barska was an early importer. I had one with the same finish, albeit not in as nice of condition. Nice find Hog Driver, congrats!
Earl Keese... was your parkerized gun also a Bauska? I have not noted a parkerized Bauska in the past. The Bauska import mark is usually very prominently highlighted on their imported CZs. It is a very nice looking sample from ‘85 with that curvy trigger guard before it got more rounded in ‘86.


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Title: Re: Phosphate 75
Post by: Earl Keese on March 01, 2021, 09:37:17 PM
That looks like a refinish job albeit a nice one. What's the script on the left front of the slide?
Those are import marks, Barska was an early importer. I had one with the same finish, albeit not in as nice of condition. Nice find Hog Driver, congrats!
Earl Keese... was your parkerized gun also a Bauska? I have not noted a parkerized Bauska in the past. The Bauska import mark is usually very prominently highlighted on their imported CZs. It is a very nice looking sample from ‘85 with that curvy trigger guard before it got more rounded in ‘86.


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No, mine wasn't a Bauska. I've never seen a phosphated Bauska either, but everytime I think I've seen every 75 variant, a new one pops up.
Title: Re: Phosphate 75
Post by: Metal Wonder Nine Guy on March 02, 2021, 12:04:07 PM
What is a Bauska? Specially marked Cz75?
Title: Re: Phosphate 75
Post by: bang bang on March 02, 2021, 04:25:38 PM
What is a Bauska? Specially marked Cz75?

Bauska was the importer.

Title: Re: Phosphate 75
Post by: greystonedog on March 07, 2021, 06:10:10 AM
Take a look at the slide stop spring end seen on the right side of the gun. It is park, should be blue if original finish. Many don’t remove this part before refinishing
Title: Re: Phosphate 75
Post by: Hog Driver on March 07, 2021, 06:39:59 PM
Slide stop spring is blued, so I'm leaning towards an original finish. Took it to the range yesterday and it really runs great. There are a couple of spots on the grip where the finish is thin and shows some light rust. I've oiled the exterior twice with a light gun oil, and it is just soaking it up. Any suggestions about how to keep up the finish and fight off the rust?
Title: Re: Phosphate 75
Post by: SoCal on March 10, 2021, 09:35:00 AM
A silicone bag works for my blued revolvers.
Title: Re: Phosphate 75
Post by: SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM on March 11, 2021, 05:19:42 AM
Slide stop spring is blued, so I'm leaning towards an original finish. Took it to the range yesterday and it really runs great. There are a couple of spots on the grip where the finish is thin and shows some light rust. I've oiled the exterior twice with a light gun oil, and it is just soaking it up. Any suggestions about how to keep up the finish and fight off the rust?
Just maintain a light coat of oil after each shooting/cleaning. It doesn't have to be swimming in oil and it will not continue to rust. What you see happened probably over  decades not days or weeks. Guns that are maintained and kept in a stable environment are not going to rust at any accelerated rate. Take care of it and it will likely look no worse than it does now in 20 years other than normal finish wear.