The Original CZ Forum
GENERAL => General Discussion => Topic started by: JamesCC on December 30, 2021, 12:10:07 PM
-
Everyone do you have ideas for a really good solid gun safe for a Glock 19 that could be stored in a nightstand that you would recommend?
-
Check out V-Line. Excellent quality with dependable simplex locks.
https://www.vlineind.com
-
This is what I have screwed down securely inside a compartment in my bedside antique chefforobe.
Houses my P09 with tactical light/laser and a spare mag.
Four button password and door opens quickly.
https://gunvault.com/minivault-standard (https://gunvault.com/minivault-standard)
Photo posted on another nightstand-related thread:
https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=117047.msg911252#msg911252 (https://czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=117047.msg911252#msg911252)
-
to me, your question is vague. you can have a "safe" or a one of those small "boxes"
-
Verifi Smart Safe
https://verifisafe.com/products/biometric-safes/s-series/verifi-smart-safe-s5000/
Excellent product. I have had one for three years, and open/close it at least twice every day, 24/7.
Still on the original battery, holds three pistols, and have never had a single problem with it.
-
I keep my Pistol and Mags in this:
https://www.ftknox.com/product/original-pistol-box-wfront-sight-training-certificate-included/
Momma keeps Her Revolver in this one, but it'll work for Pistols too:
https://titanvault.com/
-
My wife and I each have a Sentry Biometric pistol safe. We’ve had them for about five or six years now and they work great. It has the finger print reader, of course, but also has a key backup and push button code if one or the other fails. The only thing I’ve had to do is change batteries one time in each as preventative maintenance and replaced the quick spring strut on mine once but that was under warranty so it was free. It has predrilled holes to bolt it down and fits in a drawer. Decently priced.
https://www.sentrysafe.com/product/QAP1BLX
-
Ft Knox or Amsec pistol box with simplex lock.
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221227/518a647e5db76bb6c6f6bfc00ce9b82a.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221227/56437f3123e9042dc416843fb088b32e.jpg)
-
These days, the most likely reason to break into a residence is to steal a gun. No one wants your TV, stereo or jewelry anymore. Those big items are hard to carry away and have no value.
If you bolt a gun safe to a nightstand within easy reach, a thief will simply bust up the nightstand and take the whole safe with them. If you bolt it to something solid, like the floor, getting access to your gun will be severely limited. So to me, the main use of a bedside safe is to keep children from having access to your gun and nothing more.
If there are no children in the home, IMHO it's better then to conceal the weapon in a hidden compartment within the nightstand. I once had a nightstand with a hinged top that opened to reveal a shallow concealment space. When weighted down with a dozen books in the lower section, and covered with magazines and sleeping paraphernalia on the top, one would never suspect what it held. The cost of that was a set of small hinges and a piece of plywood.
Consequently I have never seen the need or expense for the small gun safe.
-
Ft Knox or Amsec pistol box with simplex lock.
Yep, those are just lockable storage boxes.
-
I have the Hornady Rapid Safe RFID vault. It works ok... I might look at a different brand if I was do it all over again
-
The Vline is excellent and the simplex lock just plain works. I do have quick access electrconic bedside safe that is bolted to my night stand though. It has worked good for many years. The only main issues I have with it is the foam inside is getting destroyed and I feel it is a safety issue as some of the foam could get in the trigger guard. Plus is it very limited on size. I have an Elite LTT Beretta 92 with flush 18 round mag in it right now. It would not hold my P09 with 21 round mag or a handgun with an optic.
These videos are old, but he makes some good points. I think electrinuc safes have come a long way though and are pretty reliable these days if you get a quality brand.
https://youtu.be/6C2-UPEQDTo
https://youtu.be/7CiX3ZHODRo
-
Like the Simplex mechanics on safes. Have any of you tried or owned the FAST1 safes? Those use simplex mechanics and are well-made. Want to hear feedback from others. Thanks.
-
Funny thing is, at CAL Ranch in Casa Grande they have a small safe that IS a nightstand...heavy little bugger it is.
-
https://ads.midwayusa.com/product/1024409165?pid=966807.
This is what I have, it works great and nice price. $99.99
-
I was in the same situation a while ago, looking for a nightstand-sized safe. I ended up going with a smaller www.libertysafe.com model, and it’s been perfect—just the right size for my handgun and a couple of mags. It’s got a solid lock and is small enough to fit in a nightstand without being obvious. The key for me was finding one that was both quick to open and secure enough for peace of mind.
-
Check these out when you have a sec. https://varasafety.com/ Not the same as verisafe. I have two young children in my house and I’m seriously considering getting one of these. They are a little pricey, but they seem really good as far as I can tell. The good thing is, they also have a vehicle mount that uses the same locking mechanism so you can buy one unit and use it in multiple locations. So if you go on vacation, you can take it with you and secure your gun in the vehicle without having to remove it every time if you need to jump out for something real quick. And I believe the biometric lock operates within .3 of a second.
-
I'm with wobbly on this one, I have made the same set up with a night stand with a top that opens. I put a tip up light in it so when its opened a small led light comes on, its not to bright but gives just enough light to see.
I word to the wise, If you are like me and keep your guns locked and loaded with one in the chamber keep your gun in a holster even inside your safe. It is way to easy when waken up to a bump in the night to grab the gun have your trigger finger get inside the trigger guard and launch one down the tube. every lane at the gun club has a hole skipping down the top from people picking up their gun with their finger on the trigger and when squeezing to grip the gun they send one down the tube.
if you are going to use a safe lets be safe!
-
In my opinion, if a thief opens a drawer and sees that metal box, they'll instantly know what's in there. Most nightstand drawers are relatively small and easily removed, so they can just grab the whole drawer and walk out with it. I agree with wobbly that concealment is the key. Over the years I have had the opportunity to get rather creative with my customer's concealment needs. One of my favorites is a false bottom in a drawer, which will drop down after the drawer is opened and a small latch is released. It's simple, cheap to make and almost instantly accessible. No need to sweep off the top of the nightstand either.
-
I agree with wobbly that concealment is the key. Over the years I have had the opportunity to get rather creative with my customer's concealment needs. One of my favorites is a false bottom in a drawer, which will drop down after the drawer is opened and a small latch is released. It's simple, cheap to make and almost instantly accessible.
One of my ideas is to go to a used home supply store (like a Habitat For Humanity "Re-Store") and buy an small, 12x14 accessory breaker box. Throw away the box and mount the modified cover flush on the wall. Put it behind the walk-in closet door, so that it looks like a standard electrical service point.
However the door hides access to the 15" wide space inside the wall. That space between the studs can conceal a lot of things. And it can be placed high enough on the wall to discourage young, exploring children.
Even if a thief spent an hour inside your home, no one is going to take the time to check your breaker panel. Generic gray breaker panel covers are simply too common, too benign to stand out.