The Original CZ Forum
GENERAL => General Discussion => Topic started by: M1A4ME on January 17, 2022, 05:00:42 PM
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That thread on P07/P09/P10 magazines got me wondering about the pistols.
When CZ started with the P10. It was just a P10. P10 with a letter on the back end to let you know if it was a full sized pistol, or a compact, or a subcompact.
But, the P07 is a Compact and the P09 is it's bigger full sized brother.
Why did CZ call the Compact .40 S&W a P06 instead of just calling it a .40 S&W P01? Or CZ Compact (never saw a P06 so I don't know if they had a rail, or no rail.)
CZ didn't change the model number/name to call a .40 S&W CZ75B by a different model number, so why was the .40 S&W Compact pistol called a different model number?
Not sure, either, what the P01 vs. SP01 means. Does "S" mean someting beside "S"?
A CZ75B is a full sized CZ75 with a firing pin block. A CZ75 Compact isn't called a CZ75B Compact. Is it? I don't remember seeing a "B" on the back side of CZ75, just CZ75 Compact on the slide.
Just sort of hit me as funny. I guess there's a lot of things we don't really know about the reasons CZ does some of the things they do.
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CZ P06
https://cz-usa.com/product/cz-p-06/
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No "B" on the compacts I've seen, but I do remember hearing one time about a fairly rare batch of decockers that were marked "BD"
(https://thumbs2.imgbox.com/1c/dc/mH4wycD4_t.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/mH4wycD4)
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I can tell you why there is no P-08...because that number was forever taken by the P-08 Luger over a century ago. That is exactly why there is no CZ P-08.
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So a P06 is a .40 S&W P01.
Why wasn't a P09 a P07F?
Why is a CZ75B in .40 S&W still a CZ75B?
Just funny how they don't stick with a naming scheme.
Then again, funny how I can buy a CZ75 Compact with a rail or without a rail.
Or buy a P01 with a steel frame or with an aluminum frame. With thumb safeties (P01 steel frame) or with a decocking lever (P01 aluminum frame).
How some CZ75 models have upwards tapered beaver tails and some don't.
Some have single left side safeties (CZ75B in 9MM) or a ambidextrous thumb safeties (CZ75B in .40 S&W).
Some CZ75Bs have rails all the front end of the slide (.40 S&W) or rails that end at the front of the frame (9MM).
I'll bet a tour through the CZ factory and a discussion with the technicians running the machines and engineers would be really, really interesting.
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Some have single left side safeties (CZ75B in 9MM) or a ambidextrous thumb safeties (CZ75B in .40 S&W).
Not to leave out 9mm CZ75B in stainless having ambi safeties.
The CZ model names have always confused me...... particularly in a forum when, for instance, a member is looking for a holster recommendation for say a "P06.
That ^ would typically have me looking the model up to identify.
My rule of thumb, despite being correct or not, has CZ models starting with P signifying a plastic framed pistol and the B in CZ75B stands for butchered and I move on. Saves search engine time that way 8)
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CZ 52 because it was put into production in 1952?
CZ 75 because it was put into production in 1975?
CZ 75-b because it has a firing pin block safety that was a big enough of a change to warrant a suffix letter?
Just guesses on my part but the timelines seem to make sense.
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I think the addition of the "B" refers to those guns being the "B" model or second version which is likely why the compacts never carried the "B" since I don't think there was an early model compact.
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How about where did the "2075" in 2075 RAMI come from?
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Just sort of hit me as funny. I guess there's a lot of things we don't really know about the reasons CZ does some of the things they do.
These statistics might help explain the model naming methodology:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_beer_consumption_per_capita (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_beer_consumption_per_capita)
Also note that the Austrians and Germans are up there as well!
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A Czech woman in Uherský Brod was three months pregnant when she fell into a deep coma. She awoke ten months later.
The woman asked the doctor about her baby.
Doctor: You had twins, a boy and a girl. They’re both fine. And, your brother named them for you.
Woman: No, no, no! Not my brother. He works at the CZ factory. He is responsible for naming their firearms models. What did he name the girl?
Doctor: Denise.
Woman: Ohh, that’s actually a nice name. What about the boy?
Doctor, sighing deeply: Denephew.
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A Czech woman in Uherský Brod was three months pregnant when she fell into a deep coma. She awoke ten months later.
The woman asked the doctor about her baby.
Doctor: You had twins, a boy and a girl. They’re both fine. And, your brother named them for you.
Woman: No, no, no! Not my brother. He works at the CZ factory. He is responsible for naming their firearms models. What did he name the girl?
Doctor: Denise.
Woman: Ohh, that’s actually a nice name. What about the boy?
Doctor, sighing deeply: Denephew.
My wife just asked me what was so funny. I'm still chuckling a bit after the laugh from the punch line is over, the chuckles continue.
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I always thought P stood for Police in Czech, probably because of PCR.