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CZ LONG ARMS => CZ BREN => Topic started by: Barn Owl Lover on February 07, 2022, 02:08:11 PM
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Not forgotten really, but being replaced by it's successor (Bren 2) in Czech service and no longer in mass production. But a probable case of porn for CZ fans none the less.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jUxKPoFwDM
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Imo, it was a masterpiece!
A little heavy but, that's it imo. Wasn't supposed to be an AR15
Beautifully built too.....makes a SCAR look cheap.
I'll never understand why people didn't love it the way she was
I feel like people just wanted an AR15.
Now, I love my little Bren 2 Ms but, that original Bren 805 is just really something to behold.
Says so much that's its much better made than the SCAR that's much more expensive that it is.
I know, I'm biased. But, I've never shot a smoother shooting gun.
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I have regrets selling my 805 Bren, but priorities..If I had to choose between a 805 Bren and a Bren2, I'd pick the 805 Bren every time. 805 Brens appeal to me more.
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Thanks for posting the video. I wasn't aware of all of the differences between Gen 1 & Gen 2.
My CZ 805 S1 carbine apparently is Gen 2 as it takes Stanag magazines, muzzle brake, adjustable stock and round charging handle.
It came with KEYMOD rails on the L & R sides which differs from what he had in the video.
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Yeah, I didn't really realize the difference between the 805 models in themselves so to speak- gen1 gen 2
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MAC is getting ahead of the curve, listing the Bren 2 as an up and coming “Forgotten Weapon” (#5) — with good reason: unresolved problems with non-existent customer support from CZ going on 3 years.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5uAwugYcxb8
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Man, and that's just so darned INSANE!
The Bren models both 805&2Ms are just incredible weapons imo.
Ill never understand why they don't support them better
Especially the current 2 Ms.
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Could it be that CZ is as backlogged with armed forces/LE orders as other gunmakers like HK and FN are? HK and FN are primarily defense companies, and CZ is sort of one, though they also focus more on the commercial market. But the Czech Army wants Bren 2s to replace their 805s and especially Vz 58s, they want Bren 2 PPS rifles to replace their SVDs, they want Scorpion Evo 3 SMGs, and CZ P10 pistols, too. All of that to the tune of 40,000 total firearms, nearly half of which are Bren 2 variants.
It does have to be remembered that attempts to retire the Vz 58 date back to just after the Velvet Revolution, especially with the Czech ambitions to join NATO at the time. It took until 2010 to get 805s into the hands ot Czech soldiers, and until 2017 to do the same with the Bren 2, though that supplemented rather than seriously replaced either the 805 or the Vz 58. Now it seems that the Czech Army is pretty gung ho about replacing outdated weaponry. And with CZ being the contractor for most of the replacement firearms, it seems that on top of other issues (supply chain, Covid-19, etc), the defense side of the company has gotten priority over the commercial side for the time being. Some of it of course is financial/economics, too--the Czech Army volume orders will get CZ a lot of money quicker than commercial orders.
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Very true - CZ has military and police contracts all over the world, and priorities are priorities. I REALLY regret losing my BREN 805, but medical bills are what they are. I won't lose my BREN 2 MS.
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Very nice comparison of the two versions.
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Thanks for posting this video OP. The main reason I didn't get the carbine version was its forward bias weight balance. The pistol version (11.5") minimized this weight bias. Very nice weapon indeed.