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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => DAN WESSON FIREARMS => Topic started by: Crazy8 on August 26, 2022, 06:13:34 PM
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Anyone know what’s going on with the DWX? I’ve been holding of on the Shadow 2 because of this. It’s been over 2 years and no news on release date, or whether it will be released at all. I mean, they already have prototypes out so it can’t be that hard to start manufacturing.
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Anyone know what’s going on with the DWX? I’ve been holding of on the Shadow 2 because of this. It’s been over 2 years and no news on release date, or whether it will be released at all. I mean, they already have prototypes out so it can’t be that hard to start manufacturing.
Maybe call Colt...
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The DWX project was scrapped and it is not going to happen.
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Cz grip in a 2011 sounds just perfect. Why, god, why?
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They had manufacturing issues in that they couldn't get the gun to run right and then the plandemic came along and created parts/supply issues also being in the pinko state of NY they were shut down longer than most other places so they just decided to pack it in.
They had it posted on their website for a period after the decision to scrap the project but now there's no mention that it ever even existed.
I would have loved to have gotten one as well but I guess it just wasn't meant to be.
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They had manufacturing issues in that they couldn't get the gun to run right and then the plandemic came along and created parts/supply issues also being in the pinko state of NY they were shut down longer than most other places so they just decided to pack it in.
They had it posted on their website for a period after the decision to scrap the project but now there's no mention that it ever even existed.
I would have loved to have gotten one as well but I guess it just wasn't meant to be.
I wonder if the fact the the limited division it was intended to compete in is dying a slow death has anything to do with it?
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If this is a real source, then it looks like the DWX lives. I find it odd that CZ/Dan Wesson would not have made a bigger announcement. I went to the DW web site and I did not see it.
https://www.shootingwire.com/releases/54d73902-f816-4f4e-af15-28d2a0cba1b1
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If this is a real source, then it looks like the DWX lives. I find it odd that CZ/Dan Wesson would not have made a bigger announcement. I went to the DW web site and I did not see it.
https://www.shootingwire.com/releases/54d73902-f816-4f4e-af15-28d2a0cba1b1
That is a very legit source for industry news. DW website is having some sort of issue, some people can see it on there and some can't. They're working on it.
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One gunbroker.com listing for that sku, for $4,600.
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One on Guns.com for $4999.99
DW link: https://danwessonfirearms.com/product/dwx/
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Ill believe it when I see it! And I want to see it!
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Posted on social media by CZ-USA
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Make it optics ready and I'm there.
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Make it optics ready and I'm there.
I just can’t understand why there is anything but an OR slide on this. In fact they should partner with one of the big electronic sight guys and offer a factory package!
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Looks like the DWX is back in the hands of reviewers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JOt4QVCvZo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0lDU8HGGEM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YiR3KvJOsk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDbSxwJdlUo
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This business had two advertised on 1911 Addicts forum and both were sold within the blink of any eye.
The seller said to reach out thru his website if you want to order one.
https://www.keekssupply.net/handguns/semi-automatic-handguns/cz-dan-wesson-dwx-9mm-5-light-rail-19-shot-black-duty-finish-4495396
Just sayin'
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If this is a real source, then it looks like the DWX lives. I find it odd that CZ/Dan Wesson would not have made a bigger announcement. I went to the DW web site and I did not see it.
https://www.shootingwire.com/releases/54d73902-f816-4f4e-af15-28d2a0cba1b1
That's bogus, I believe. I recently saw a scam retailer that had the DWX for sale. Pay with Zelle or crypto.
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If this is a real source, then it looks like the DWX lives. I find it odd that CZ/Dan Wesson would not have made a bigger announcement. I went to the DW web site and I did not see it.
https://www.shootingwire.com/releases/54d73902-f816-4f4e-af15-28d2a0cba1b1
That's bogus, I believe. I recently saw a scam retailer that had the DWX for sale. Pay with Zelle or crypto.
You're wrong. Shooting Wire is a well known industry news source. That's a CZ-USA press release. Authorized dealers and distributors started selling the DWX today
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Well its real. These things are all over gunbroker and a couple stores in my area have them! Ill wait for the public to beta test this thing and hopefully wrangle one sometime in 23’.
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What a shock!! I though this was gone forever, but evidently it's back. MSRP $2099.
https://danwessonfirearms.com/product/dwx/
Here's a quick review:
https://www.recoilweb.com/dan-wesson-dwx-the-best-of-two-worlds-hands-on-review-177850.html
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I’ll Waite till someone on this forum actually betas one …posts pics …and a review.. 🤔😎
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I’ll Waite till someone on this forum actually betas one …posts pics …and a review.. 🤔😎
I’m interested, but agree, I’ll wait out the initial craze & potential bugs
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If street pricing is $1800-1900 (e.g., Omaha Outdoors has it listed for $1869.99), I don't know if it'll fare well against Staccato. I think when it was announced at SHOT Show 2020, it was supposed to be around $1500-1600.
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I am with most here and will wait out the hype and let them get into hands and see how reports go. This is the only handgun I have been very excited about in a long time. Not super excited the price went up, but I guess that is the deal these days.
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Just saw the Youtube videos on these. It sounds too good to be true. The lovechild of a 1911 and a CZ75 with some SiG features to make it even more interesting.
I suppose its too much of an oversimplification to call it a CZ75 with a 1911 trigger, right? (which honestly is kind of a dream come true for me).
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I suppose its too much of an oversimplification to call it a CZ75 with a 1911 trigger, right? (which honestly is kind of a dream come true for me).
Mechanically...yes that's an oversimplification. But from a practical viewpoint that's basically how it works out, 75 ergonomics and 1911 trigger.
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Well, at least we are finally seeing something new after a long dry spell from both CZ and DW. I'd honestly given up a long time ago on ever seeing the DWX in production.
But as others have said, I can't believe they finally got around to this, and in the year 2022, didn't make it optics-ready.
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I've got one waiting for me, my lgs called today, my name is all over this thing.
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Watching one of the Youtube videos from a gun reviewer, the Sig P320 fire control unit was mentioned. I wasn't clear whether he meant that it had a similar concept of modular fire control or whether it used the same Sig P320 fire control unit.
I would assume it wouldn't be a Sig FCU since the DWX has an external hammer. The Sig FCU is striker fired.
Can anyone confirm?
-Bigcrock
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Watching one of the Youtube videos from a gun reviewer, the Sig P320 fire control unit was mentioned. I wasn't clear whether he meant that it had a similar concept of modular fire control or whether it used the same Sig P320 fire control unit.
I would assume it wouldn't be a Sig FCU since the DWX has an external hammer. The Sig FCU is striker fired.
Can anyone confirm?
-Bigcrock
Its just similar in the fact they are both modular. That is all.
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I've got one waiting for me, my lgs called today, my name is all over this thing.
And we expect a detailed review once you get it.
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still waiting for them to release the full-sized .40 I ordered 2.5 years ago
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Watching one of the Youtube videos from a gun reviewer, the Sig P320 fire control unit was mentioned. I wasn't clear whether he meant that it had a similar concept of modular fire control or whether it used the same Sig P320 fire control unit.
I would assume it wouldn't be a Sig FCU since the DWX has an external hammer. The Sig FCU is striker fired.
Can anyone confirm?
-Bigcrock
On another firearm forum (ar-15.com) someone purchased and disassembled a new DWX and posted a picture of the internal parts. It doesn't answer all the question about the DWX, but it does show the internal parts, including the FCU.
The FCU is modular in the sense that it does hold some of the FCU parts, but unlike the FCU in the P320 which can be removed as a complete assembly, the frame is also used to help hold the FCU and parts together.
I hope it's OK to post this link to the photo.
https://content.invisioncic.com/r270761/monthly_2022_12/7AA385CA-75A6-475D-B074-502D8CCDB18D.jpeg.13c93f7d5035a46fabb73648439ffb5f.jpeg
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Spent the last 20 or so mins trying to post pictures here.
So here is a link the high road where I posted a picture of my new DWX.
https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/merry-cz-christmas-to-me.914093/
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Congratulations. Great looking pair of pistols. You'll have to post more about the DWX after you've had a chance to shoot it.
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Spent the last 20 or so mins trying to post pictures here.
So here is a link the high road where I posted a picture of my new DWX.
https://www.thehighroad.org/index.php?threads/merry-cz-christmas-to-me.914093/
Thanks for posting the photos and the link!
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Spent the last 20 or so mins trying to post pictures here.
When in doubt, read the instructions !
The instructions are kept in a forum called "Important Information !" .
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Haven't watched it yet, but should be interesting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQyizRe8Yh0
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Picked up a DWX a few days ago. A couple observations after tearing it down. No sign of MIM ignition parts. Hammer were hooks cut to 0.020”. The sear nose angle isn't neutral on my Ed Brown sear jig and no relief angle was cut. Don't want to mess with it since thumb safeties need to be fitted with ignition changes and they aren't available anywhere. Trigger is still very clean breaking at 4lb 5oz. The trigger drops in from the top and is tapped for an overtravel screw from the rear but no screw is installed. Reset is short enough it probably doesn’t need one. CZs are know to break slide stop pins. The pin diameter is 0.238” compared to a 1911’s 0.200” so it’s quite beefy. No slide stop plunger so pretty much “idiot scratch” proof as it has its own spring which also retains it via a groove. Slightly lower bore height than a 1911, but nowhere near a Glock. The slide is .980” whereas a 1911’s is 0.900” wide. Just wide enough to direct mill for an RMR footprint. The slide recoil spring tunnel will fit a traditional 1911 recoil spring, but the guide rod is .238” in diameter compared to .330” on a 1911 for round wire so it’s limited to flatwire springs. It’s not too fiddley to reassemble, but unlike a 1911, you can’t use the thumb safety to push out the mainspring housing pin. It needs a punch and a good whack with a hammer. The sear/disco spring is a bit annoying since the beaver tail is fixed. It takes 3 hands to hold the sear leg high enough while keeping the disco leg down all while sliding it into place from underneath. The bent tab on the sear leg was missing/broken off/removed? Just or fun I swapped it with my EGW 1911 sear spring. Dropped right in and took 1lb off the break. Tried to install a non-ambi 1911 safety but it won't fit without cutting away the front area where the plunger contacts. The mag release is a little stiff but a standard 1911 spring fits so it can easily be tuned.
Only one major negative…it won’t pass the plunk test with any of my competition ammo. Jacketed bullets are fine, but the ogive on 147gr Blue Bullets OAL 1.110" catch on the throat. Every CZ and Glock gen5 oem barrel I’ve had also has a short cut leade. Glock KKM plunks just fine. The nitriding will murder regular HSS throating reamers. Just placed an order for a custom carbide reamer with titanium carbonitride coating.
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Mine is wonderful although it averages 1.5 pounds of trigger pull. I am eagerly awaiting a Dullard Leather holster. 12 yards
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Great reviews! I am wanting one of these more and more each day.
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Only one major negative…it won’t pass the plunk test with any of my competition ammo. Jacketed bullets are fine, but the ogive on 147gr Blue Bullets OAL 1.110" catch on the throat. Every CZ and Glock gen5 oem barrel I’ve had also has a short cut leade. Glock KKM plunks just fine. The nitriding will murder regular HSS throating reamers. Just placed an order for a custom carbide reamer with titanium carbonitride coating.
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I see and acknowledge the issue... but wouldn't it be easier/ quicker/ less expensive to simply learn to load for the barrel as it is ? Our testing in the Ammo & Handloading forum shows that shorter cartridges often have more accurate shot placement.
Reaming always seems like a lot of time and trouble, accompanied by a LOT of unknown risk factors.
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I see and acknowledge the issue... but wouldn't it be easier/ quicker/ less expensive to simply learn to load for the barrel as it is ? Our testing in the Ammo & Handloading forum shows that shorter cartridges often have more accurate shot placement.
Reaming always seems like a lot of time and trouble, accompanied by a LOT of unknown risk factors.
If I reloaded I'd absolutely just adjust my ammo but my rounds OAL are already 1.110". They'd have to be around 1.030" which is quite short and I don't have the motivation to handload. As it turns out the barrel is DLC not nitride so it wasn't too difficult with my HSS throating reamer. Lots of cutting lube, one turn, clean, plunk test, and repeat. Needed about 8 turns for the bullet to barely drag on the rifling.
Played with it over the weekend shooting 25y B8 drills. Tried a 19# mainspring and replaced the sear spring. The factory sear spring’s sear leg was slightly short and tricky to position correctly. Tried a WC 13# flatwire recoil spring but really preferred an ISMI Glock 17 11# spring. Despite the lower rating, the Glock spring was returning the front sight level while the WC was returning slightly high with 130PF 147gr. Probably due to longer free length and increased preload. Picked up a 1911 flat bottom FP stop to play with in the shop. The firing pin hole is drilled lower in the DWX but I can throw it in the mill at work to make it match. I took some measurements and the slide will fit a standard 1911 round wire recoil spring. I’m going to open up the recoil spring hole and modify an X5 Legion guide rod to fit. Opens up spring tuning to the full suite of 1911 springs and adds a little more weight under the muzzle.
The factory mag release felt a bit stiff even after a bit of buffing. Picked up a Wolff reduced power 1911 spring pack. The #3 felt just right.
Also, LOK palm swell Veloce grips for the Shadow2 feel just as good on the DWX as my SP-01.
Once I get the guide rod and fp stop situated, it’s off for optic milling and refinish. I'm loving this thing. Keeping my eyes peeled for a DWX Compact.
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Glad to see some news on the DWX. It took a while for DW to finally get the product to the shelves, but everything I've seen and read indicates that it was worth the wait.
I've been waiting to buy, but I was hoping that an optic ready version would be offered. I contacted DW for an update and was told that they don't expect the optic ready DWX to be introduced until probably Shot Show next year. Waiting almost another year for an optic ready version is a long time. I may just go ahead and pick one up now and have it milled. DW recommended Precision Machine for the milling.
Just out of curiosity, for those who have had their DW milled, what finish do you recommend for the slide so that it matches the frame? According to the DW website the DWX has a DLC finish on the slide which is a premium finish. I hate to have one milled and have it refinished with Cerekote. Nothing wrong with Cerekote, but to my understanding a DLC finish is superior. The only other option usually offered is Black Nitride which is also a premium finish but I'm not sure how it would match the frame. Since I haven't been able to see a DWX in person, I'm a little undecided on which way to go. Any recommendations?
The DW rep also said that they are working on getting the the DWX Compact to market and it could finally be introduced BEFORE July of 2023. Of course we've all seen estimates before on the availability of the DWX and have seen how they don't always happen when expected, but it is something to watch for.
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I contacted DW for an update and was told that they don't expect the optic ready DWX to be introduced until probably Shot Show next year. Waiting almost another year for an optic ready version is a long time. I may just go ahead and pick one up now and have it milled. DW recommended Precision Machine for the milling.
Just out of curiosity, for those who have had their DW milled, what finish do you recommend for the slide so that it matches the frame? According to the DW website the DWX has a DLC finish on the slide which is a premium finish. I hate to have one milled and have it refinished with Cerekote. Nothing wrong with Cerekote, but to my understanding a DLC finish is superior. The only other option usually offered is Black Nitride which is also a premium finish but I'm not sure how it would match the frame. Since I haven't been able to see a DWX in person, I'm a little undecided on which way to go. Any recommendations?
The DW rep also said that they are working on getting the the DWX Compact to market and it could finally be introduced BEFORE July of 2023. Of course we've all seen estimates before on the availability of the DWX and have seen how they don't always happen when expected, but it is something to watch for.
Thanks for the update on the introduction of the OR full sized and base compact. I too am waiting on a DWX OR and another year is hugely disappointing. I'd much rather have an OR Version with plates available for different footprints vs having one milled. I've got many CZs milled for SROs but I'd like the option to mount DPPs or Sigs as well. This could be bad for my bank account - I may use the delay to buy a TS2 Orange while I wait :o
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Glad to see some news on the DWX. It took a while for DW to finally get the product to the shelves, but everything I've seen and read indicates that it was worth the wait.
I've been waiting to buy, but I was hoping that an optic ready version would be offered. I contacted DW for an update and was told that they don't expect the optic ready DWX to be introduced until probably Shot Show next year. Waiting almost another year for an optic ready version is a long time. I may just go ahead and pick one up now and have it milled. DW recommended Precision Machine for the milling.
Just out of curiosity, for those who have had their DW milled, what finish do you recommend for the slide so that it matches the frame? According to the DW website the DWX has a DLC finish on the slide which is a premium finish. I hate to have one milled and have it refinished with Cerekote. Nothing wrong with Cerekote, but to my understanding a DLC finish is superior. The only other option usually offered is Black Nitride which is also a premium finish but I'm not sure how it would match the frame. Since I haven't been able to see a DWX in person, I'm a little undecided on which way to go. Any recommendations?
The DW rep also said that they are working on getting the the DWX Compact to market and it could finally be introduced BEFORE July of 2023. Of course we've all seen estimates before on the availability of the DWX and have seen how they don't always happen when expected, but it is something to watch for.
CZ Custom might have a DWX in stock and can get the milling done for you with the dlc coating.
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Thanks for the suggestion. I have been checking their website off and on and haven't seen a DWX listed. Just checked a few minutes ago and nothing.
I did find a DWX at below MSRP and went ahead and ordered it today. I was tired of waiting and if you saw my other post, DW is saying that the OR version might not come out until Shot Show next year. I've been waiting for this one for over three years already and decided to go ahead and get one now and decide about the milling later. It seems that DW would have come out with a OR version now, since they've had three years to prepare for it. But that seems to be the way CZ does things....come out with a new product and then drag out the introduction of the OR version later. I guess that way they can have something new to look forward to down the road.
In the meantime I will probably contact CZ Custom to inquire if they do the milling for the DWX and if they can also do the DLC finish so that the frame and slide will match. I also want to check out having it milled for a plate instead of a direct mount. I think I would prefer the ability to swap out plates if I decide to change my red dot at a later date. I've never had a slide milled before and need to learn more about it.
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I know I was disappointed to hear that it might be almost another year for the OR version of the DWX to be released. I had heard rumors that it might appear in the 2nd quarter, but if the rep that I spoke to knew what he was talking about that won't happen.
It will be just my luck that it does though. I decided that I was tired of waiting and when I found a DWX below MSRP today, I went ahead and ordered it. I was just tired of waiting. This will give me some time to get used to it and to decide what to do about milling it. I'm like you, I had thought about delaying the DWX and looking for a CZ TS2 Orange, but they're even harder to find than the DWX, and then you have the same problem about there being no OR version. I guess one could always go with the frame mount red dot on that one though.
I also want to check out having a slide milled to accept plates. I think I would like to go that route so that if I were to decide at a later date to change my red dot to another brand I could do it by buying a new plate, even though I have to admit direct mounting a SRO is awfully appealing.
It's frustrating when manufacturers promise all of these new models and then take forever to get them to market. At least we still have the DWX Compact to look forward to, hopefully this summer. A little waiting time will also give my wallet a little time to recover.
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Whelp, there goes the warranty.
I reamed out the slide's recoil spring tunnel to .355" and finished the end with a light countersink. Then cut down a stainless guide rod for an X5 Legion. Had to turn down the base diameter to .430". Due to the fatter rod, I had to chop it about .050" below flush to be able to install it. Now she accepts standard 5" 1911 springs. The spring at full recoil is compressed to 1.640". On a 5" 1911 it's 1.625" so there's no danger of coil bind. Milled off the top and bottom of a 1911 flat bottom firing pin stop from EGW. Gave it a 1/16" radius. Lighting makes it look uneven. 19# mainspring and Wolff 11# recoil spring shoots super flat with 130PG 147gr. Slide is off to Vulcan Machine to get milled for an RMR pocket with a Glock rear dovetail in front of the optic.
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Glad to see some news on the DWX. It took a while for DW to finally get the product to the shelves, but everything I've seen and read indicates that it was worth the wait.
I've been waiting to buy, but I was hoping that an optic ready version would be offered. I contacted DW for an update and was told that they don't expect the optic ready DWX to be introduced until probably Shot Show next year. Waiting almost another year for an optic ready version is a long time. I may just go ahead and pick one up now and have it milled. DW recommended Precision Machine for the milling.
Just out of curiosity, for those who have had their DW milled, what finish do you recommend for the slide so that it matches the frame? According to the DW website the DWX has a DLC finish on the slide which is a premium finish. I hate to have one milled and have it refinished with Cerekote. Nothing wrong with Cerekote, but to my understanding a DLC finish is superior. The only other option usually offered is Black Nitride which is also a premium finish but I'm not sure how it would match the frame. Since I haven't been able to see a DWX in person, I'm a little undecided on which way to go. Any recommendations?
The DW rep also said that they are working on getting the the DWX Compact to market and it could finally be introduced BEFORE July of 2023. Of course we've all seen estimates before on the availability of the DWX and have seen how they don't always happen when expected, but it is something to watch for.
I would not recommend nitriding a stainless dlc coated slide. You may potentially make it brittle due to the temperature and duration at which it is normally applied.
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Slide is off to Vulcan Machine to get milled for an RMR pocket with a Glock rear dovetail in front of the optic.
Looking forward to seeing the results.
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Well, I just picked up my new DWX today. What a beautiful pistol!
People say $2G is a lot of money for a pistol, and it is, but you definitely get your money's worth when you finally get to see one in person. The quality in the fit and finish and the operation is absolutely perfect. All I can say is that CZ and DW did themselves proud with the DWX. It was worth the wait.
(https://ibb.co/3cBHyLX
https://ibb.co/yPV8m7W)
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It's too bad it's not milled for an optic from the factory. I don't see a provision for a side mount either.
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It's too bad it's not milled for an optic from the factory. I don't see a provision for a side mount either.
That's my biggest complaint too. With over three years since it was first announced, it should have been offered right away after it finally hit the shelves. But that seems to be the way CZ does things. First they introduce a new pistol and then it's a year or two before they get around to making an OR version. With the popularity of red dots today, IMO ALL new pistols should be designed to be OR from the start.
Maybe it's got something to do with the fact that CZ is a Czechoslovakian company, and possibly red dots aren't as popular there as in the US. Still, when a big portion of their market is in the US, it should include OR models from the start.
If it's any consolation, DW reps said it should be available after Shot Show next year.
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Any idea if CZ is manufacturing the .40 DWX? I sure am interested in purchasing one but I cannot find any shops with inventory. Thanks,
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Unless I've missed it, I don't think that it is currently being produced in 40SW. I'm guessing with the complications and the slow roll out it might be a while. From what I've heard DW is working hard trying to just keep up with production as is.
Right now the DW website doesn't even mention the DWX in 40SW, so it will probably be a while.
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I bought one of those new Smith and Wesson metal competitors back in early Dec 2022, a few weeks later I got the call I've waited 3yrs for.
Picked up my new DWX, and along with that Smith, took them out for a test drive. That Smith only saw about 100rds and went up for sale.
The DWX fits my hand like a nice high-end broken in leather glove. It's a great pistol, the craftsmanship is top notch, it out shines my tricked out S2.
I did pick up a TS2 orange in 40 last week, could've got a 9 but wanted something different.
Haven't shoot it yet but really curious on how it handles compared to the DWX.
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Glad the DWX is working out for you. It is a great gun.
I took my DWX out this past Sunday for it's first time to the range and I was blown away. The way it fits my hand, the accuracy, and really just everything about it is top notch. I see why Dan Wesson has such a good reputation, the workmanship and finish is absolutely perfect. I only put about 260 rounds through it, of various brands and bullet weights, but it handled them all without a singly hiccup.
I recently picked up a Sig P226 X-5 and was amazed at how it shot, but it's got serious competition with the DWX. The X-5 is a piece of art to look at and a fantastic shooter, but the DWX just flat out shoots. I'd be hard pressed to say which one is better. I'm leaning toward the DWX, but I really need more time to decide. If this is any indication of what to expect from Dan Wesson, mark me up right now for the DWX Compact.
@sevt_chevelle....you and I must have awfully similar tastes in handguns. I'm currently looking for a CZ TS2O, but in the meantime I'm trying to decide whether to pick up the S&W M&P Competitor. I was sort of intrigued by the looks of it and keep going back and forth on it. I know that it won't be anywhere as nice as the X-5 or the DWX, but the idea of a metal framed M&P interests me and for the most part it gets good reviews.
Let us know how the TS2O is after you've had a chance to take it to the range. There's no doubt in my mind that it will be great. I'm just interested in how you rate it against the DWX.
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The Smith competitor is a great looking pistol, but IMO it's not a 1000 dollar gun. I just don't see or feel any difference between it and the poly framed version, and I much prefer S&W poly guns over CZ poly.
If Smith went with steel vs alloy, my opinion would change, I just don't know why they went alloy as it weighs less
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I recently picked up my DWX, looks and feels great. Hope to get out to the range soon.
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Congratulations on your new DWX. You're gonna love it!
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A new review of the DWX Compact is out. It looks like the compact will be out soon.
https://youtu.be/cWAXfqPvSlQ
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Has anyone put a magwell on a full size DWX that they can post photos of?
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I haven't yet, but that's mainly because I can't find a CZ mag well in stock. The Dan Wesson DWX will accept the same CZ mag well that fits the Tactical Sport models when you can find one.
You can see what it looks like on the DWX in the video below. If you don't want to watch the entire video, go to the 1:42 spot and you can see the DWX with the TS mag well and a set of black LOK grips. LOK also has a matching mag well to go along with the LOK Grip Lock grips if you like that style better.
I had been planning to go with either a red or black CZ mag well and the red LOK grips in order to tie in with the stock red DWX trigger but can't find the CZ style mag well. I have to admit that all black look is killer too but if changing out the trigger isn't something that you want to do, the red trigger with an all blacked out DWX would look great too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA5ro4Juzq4&t=185s
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A new review of the DWX Compact is out. It looks like the compact will be out soon.
https://youtu.be/cWAXfqPvSlQ
Excellent review. Thanks for sharing the video, I had a great watch.
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I haven't yet, but that's mainly because I can't find a CZ mag well in stock. The Dan Wesson DWX will accept the same CZ mag well that fits the Tactical Sport models when you can find one.
You can see what it looks like on the DWX in the video below. If you don't want to watch the entire video, go to the 1:42 spot and you can see the DWX with the TS mag well and a set of black LOK grips. LOK also has a matching mag well to go along with the LOK Grip Lock grips if you like that style better.
I had been planning to go with either a red or black CZ mag well and the red LOK grips in order to tie in with the stock red DWX trigger but can't find the CZ style mag well. I have to admit that all black look is killer too but if changing out the trigger isn't something that you want to do, the red trigger with an all blacked out DWX would look great too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA5ro4Juzq4&t=185s
I’ve got a Floyds Custom on the way along with some Henning extensions. I’ll post photos when I get it together.
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Looks like I will be joining the DWX club. Who is the go to guy for milling the slide for an SRO?
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There seems to be more than one opinion on this. Not so much on the actual milling but how to handle the refinishing of the slide after it is milled. Dan Wesson recommended Primary Machine to do the milling on my DWX. I still haven't had mine done and probably won't, at least for now. I've heard of several satisfied customer of Primary Machine. I've also heard of several people who have had a great job done by CZ Custom.
But that's where the difference of opinion comes in. The DWX comes with a very high quality DLC finish, but some machine shops like Primary Machine require that the entire slide be refinished after it is milled. Generally Cerekote is suggested (black nitride is optional) but Cerekote isn't nearly as good a finish as the original DLC finish. Cerekote is a great finish, but it can show wear marks more than others, plus it stacks up and can add thickness to some tight fitting areas such as around the area where the red dot fits.
CZ Custom says that since the slide is stainless steel, that refinishing the cut area isn't necessary because the stainless won't rust. They will either leave the cut area of the slide unfinished, or send it out for a black nitride finish.
Stonebridge Gunworks also has a lot of good comments about their work and they also say that refinishing the entire slide is not necessary.
So do your research and take your pick. All three of the shops that I've mentioned have good reputations, but I'm sure that there are others that can do the work too.
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I had mine milled by Vulcan Machine Werks. Normally I'd choose black nitride, but since the slide is stainless and the cut area is pretty much sealed by the optic, I went with Cerakote.
Lok S2 grips, Lok TS magwell, Henning extensions, and turned a custom tungsten guide rod to use traditional 1911 springs. Opened up the hole in the slide for the fatter guide rod prior to sending it to Vulcan. The TS magwell fits but when aligned with the mag opening it leaves a small gap at the rear.
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There seems to be more than one opinion on this. Not so much on the actual milling but how to handle the refinishing of the slide after it is milled. Dan Wesson recommended Primary Machine to do the milling on my DWX. I still haven't had mine done and probably won't, at least for now. I've heard of several satisfied customer of Primary Machine. I've also heard of several people who have had a great job done by CZ Custom.
But that's where the difference of opinion comes in. The DWX comes with a very high quality DLC finish, but some machine shops like Primary Machine require that the entire slide be refinished after it is milled. Generally Cerekote is suggested (black nitride is optional) but Cerekote isn't nearly as good a finish as the original DLC finish. Cerekote is a great finish, but it can show wear marks more than others, plus it stacks up and can add thickness to some tight fitting areas such as around the area where the red dot fits.
CZ Custom says that since the slide is stainless steel, that refinishing the cut area isn't necessary because the stainless won't rust. They will either leave the cut area of the slide unfinished, or send it out for a black nitride finish.
Stonebridge Gunworks also has a lot of good comments about their work and they also say that refinishing the entire slide is not necessary.
So do your research and take your pick. All three of the shops that I've mentioned have good reputations, but I'm sure that there are others that can do the work too.
Thanks. I've researched all you mentioned as well as Vulcan but was looking for opinions on work already performed. Your comment on how to handle the finish is my biggest concern. Vulcan offers complete refinishing in DLC as an option. Stonebridge as you mentioned claims you don't need to refinish the slide. Right now I'm leaning toward Stonebridge to preserve the factory finish and if needed I could always send the slide out in the future for refinishing.
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I had mine milled by Vulcan Machine Werks. Normally I'd choose black nitride, but since the slide is stainless and the cut area is pretty much sealed by the optic, I went with Cerakote.
Lok S2 grips, Lok TS magwell, Henning extensions, and turned a custom tungsten guide rod to use traditional 1911 springs. Opened up the hole in the slide for the fatter guide rod prior to sending it to Vulcan. The TS magwell fits but when aligned with the mag opening it leaves a small gap at the rear.
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Did you Cerakote the entire slide? Vulcan has a DLC finish as an option. What made you choose Cerakote over the DLC option?
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from Togmaster: "I've researched all you mentioned as well as Vulcan but was looking for opinions on work already performed. Your comment on how to handle the finish is my biggest concern. Vulcan offers complete refinishing in DLC as an option. Stonebridge as you mentioned claims you don't need to refinish the slide. Right now I'm leaning toward Stonebridge to preserve the factory finish and if needed I could always send the slide out in the future for refinishing."
That pretty much describes my situation. The DLC is such a nice finish I would hate to have the slide refinished and have it come out not matching the finish on the frame. The two tone look is OK, but I would prefer that my DWX look original and that means having the slide and the frame match.
I can't remember where I saw it, but a forum member ColoradoNick is sending his DWX out to Stonebridge for milling. Maybe he will chime in with the results when he gets it back. I'll be watching for that too.
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Is there a mag well that fits the stock grips or will I need to buy shorter grips? I like the feel and look of the stock grips so I'd like to keep them if I can.
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I just received notification that Palmetto State Armory has the DWX 92001 in stock right now for $1999.
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Lok S2 grips, Lok TS magwell, Henning extensions... The TS magwell fits but when aligned with the mag opening it leaves a small gap at the rear.
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I purchased the aluminum Lok grips and the Armory Craft TSO magwell for my DWX. What type of base plates did you use? P10/ P09/ P07 base plates from Henning?
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I just received notification that Palmetto State Armory has the DWX 92001 in stock right now for $1999.
The price increased from $1999 to $2099 at PSA as of 7/28/2023
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https://www.familyfirearms.com/product/dan-92001-dwx-light-rail-9mm
The DWX is available here for $1880. Best price I have seen so far.
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https://www.familyfirearms.com/product/dan-92001-dwx-light-rail-9mm
The DWX is available here for $1880. Best price I have seen so far.
Looks like it's out of stock.