Post by: Atlatl on February 13, 2004, 08:13:46 PM
The CZUSA Model 3 is a new bolt action rifle that is made in the USA. Available in both left and right hand configurations, the Model 3 features a Mauser style, claw extractor, an adjustable M-70 type trigger, and a three-position safety.
This rifle was designed specifically for the Winchester Short Magnum family of cartridges. The matte finished action and barrel comes fitted to an American Black Walnut, American pattern stock.
Post by: CZ75ID on February 13, 2004, 11:00:19 PM
The action is one that cz has had around for quite some time.
I was told the number, but can't recall.
Fred would know what the medium-short action is.
Post by: Fred Flinstone on February 14, 2004, 02:41:34 AM
, left-hand version availability , wood stock which goes well with plain steel
( Winchester started this S.S./walnut mariage due to excess walnut wood stock which was sleeping in a warehouse for years, a s.s. rifle has the advantage of being an all weather equipment as asked by so many CZ rifle nuts, but walnut is deametricaly the opposite: non stable under harsh weater. What CZ was thinking when they produced this rifle is behond me, if it was to save money as to offer this gun to be competively priced they screwed up royaly, Win. 70 are available at a much better price. Sorry to be pumped up but this one blew my fuse.Post by: troublemaker71 on February 14, 2004, 08:12:48 AM
I like the stainless steel, and appreciate the left-handed offerings (all currently offered by Winchester, Remington, Howa...
), but lament the lost integrated scope mount rails and European style stock. Can't afford the ammo for this gun either.How hard would it be for CZ to make a good 'ole 550 Magnum or Medium Mag in left-handed versions without further refining European sensibility out of the bleeped things (a la Model 3)?
Sorta pissed,
Tristan
Post by: Fred Flinstone on February 14, 2004, 11:08:25 AM
Gun industry=monkey see/ monkey do
Hopefuly one of these mysterious rifles will be bought or seen and described to us as to reinforce why CZ went towards this avenue. I may have prejudices but CZ dropped the ball on this one
.
Post by: Fred Flinstone on February 16, 2004, 05:06:53 PM
or remove from the original 03 design?
Post by: karkfump on February 17, 2004, 01:41:07 AM
Post by: Fred Flinstone on February 17, 2004, 02:59:57 AM
1- The 3 position safety in my eyes would be an added bonus, one mounted on the schroud since these are now unavailable thru Precise Metal Machining.
2- A trigger-group which could be removable(for god shake keep your present type of set-trigger) as to accomodate certain shooters who prefer conventional ones, simplest task at hand solution is to convert the trigger group as to be fully compatible with Mauser 98(a hell of a lot of flexibility for everybody's taste).
3-Keep it in S.S., once initial tool-up is paid for it will be paid for more than once(the tooling), offer black sights as to elliminate glare due to s.s.. S.S. internal parts do not need to be in S.S. but only the receiver + bolt and barrel. These parts when coming in from a cold himid enviroment sweat-up and rust within a night, do this a few times and you're due for a blue job
, do this a few times and you're due for a new gun $$$ which will bring a customer to choose a S.S. rifle whomever the mfgr. is
4-A wood stock could be fine for certain shooters BUT give us the flexibility of having a synthetic model(as to lower inventory cost: keep the 550 style stock/without any alterations.
5-Magazine system: make it a simple as possible, I prefer a non-detachable one, as these have a bad tendency to be loss with no spare available parts sooner
or later.
6-Dovetails: a major reason many shooters go for CZ is because of the dovetail is made within the receiver ensuring scope to receiver strenght, with S.S. a machinist could easily convert the receiver dovetail to a topless dovetail, the best contour is the Remington's compatibility as to ensure possible canted bases (idealy Piccatiny)promoting long-range use of rifle which can't be done with a CZ dovetail. Once machine the receiver could easily be sand-blasted without ill-effect(not like blued guns which would need a bluing job.
7-Any add-ons? or other modifications.
Post by: FVA1 on February 19, 2004, 05:36:24 AM
Post by: Fred Flinstone on February 23, 2004, 06:12:26 AM
Post by: karkfump on March 02, 2004, 02:28:37 AM
Post by: DaiseyWinchester on March 26, 2004, 03:28:29 PM
Dovetailed receiver scope blocks WITH built-in adjustable peep sight ala Talley;
Front sight base dovetailed to allow changing inserts;
M70 style "bolt guide" milled under right locking lug;
Remington style trigger;
FN style bolt handle;
Round action bottom metal and front action screw like Remington;
Teflon option for those of us who like SS characteristics, but like dark metal;
Post by: Fred Flinstone on March 28, 2004, 12:10:39 PM
www.montanarifleman.com (http://www.montanarifleman.com)
Please leave your impression about this company's action!
Thanks in advance for your replies,
Fred
Post by: Paulinus on June 13, 2005, 08:23:45 PM
Post by: flashhole on July 02, 2005, 06:14:33 PM
Post by: Fred Flinstone on July 03, 2005, 06:01:14 PM
Post by: CZJedi on July 10, 2005, 07:33:53 PM
Post by: undiplomat on August 21, 2005, 10:57:28 AM
So it appears that CZ is using Ruger to make their model 3 actions. But the action looks more like a modified Winchester M70 than a Ruger.
I'm not putting down Ruger. I had a Ruger M77 for years. It's a great rifle for the price. If I could find a stocking dealer I'd like to see a new CZ model 3.
Post by: Harley72 on September 25, 2005, 10:57:30 AM
Post by: Ed-Richter on September 27, 2005, 04:16:05 PM
I would hate to base my not buying decision on just one review, because I really wanted a CZ, but it really is not a CZ, is it.
I can't find any additional reviews on this rifle anywhere on the internet. At this point I am looking at CZ 550 7mm magnum, or 300 Magnum, Weatherby 300 WSM, or the Tikka T3 in 300 Magnum. I already got the Meopta Meostar 3-12x56 Red Dot scope. Went hunting with a guy in Czech Republic this summer, and I preferred it to the Zeiss on his other rifle.
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Post by: 2fewdaysafield on June 16, 2010, 09:05:54 AM
The model 3 was discontinued several years ago. Yours is the first post in this thread since August of '06
Post by: Nick Adams on July 04, 2010, 04:04:27 PM
Anyways, now that they have been around a while whats the word on these?
I bought it on impulse, it has really nice wood, and I really like CZs. The price seemed right.
I googled it after I bought it and gleaned that it was manufactured by MRC not CZ.
And man those MRC's are spendy.
Post by: grosventregeorge on September 01, 2011, 11:07:40 AM
While in production I know they offered the 270 wsm, 300 wsm, and I have heard some 325 wsm's might have been made. Their was a blued and a stainless version both with amazing wood. They are getting pretty hard to come by now compared to a few years ago. I know mine has drawn a crowd the couple of times I have had it at my LGS for some work. Had a new recoil pad put on and it didn't like to chamber federal ammo, so they massaged the chamber a bit and now it's flawless.
Post by: Aongus on August 05, 2012, 05:03:56 PM
The action is now silky smooth and the rifle shoots like a dream. I figure that if you can find one they are good rifles as is, if you opt to invest in some gun smith work they very nice. I am most anxious to buy a new CZ550(sorry slightly off topic). I wish they offered it in 7x57 Mauser, but will probably opt for a 6.5x55 Swedish or 270 winchester.
Post by: SWE1975 on August 29, 2013, 03:32:00 PM
Post by: bobanddog on February 12, 2014, 11:57:50 AM
Which brings me to my next point. Cabela's usually over-value their used guns, and this was no exception; $899. Yes, it had a Leupold VX I 3-9x40 scope and rings mounted, but those sell used for $100-150 at best around here and silver scopes are harder to move. Ask them to take it off and sell the rifle for less and they revert to 'used optics add little value to the gun' bs. So as a hunting rifle, the total package is not an unreasonable deal, but for the same money someone could buy a new Montana Rifle (they're on sale for $900), or a new CZ 550 for $739, with rings, and put the savings toward their choice of scopes. If someone is looking for one of these as some sort of collectible or for speculation, Cabela's mark-up has already taken up any sort of appreciation it may have had.
Post by: acsteve on May 12, 2015, 10:40:58 PM
I have looked at them wood is really nice
I think Montana rifles did make them
cz much cheaper price than kimber rifle for what looks and acts the same