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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => Compact CZ 75s => Topic started by: bonj on August 25, 2023, 04:47:28 PM
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Who makes the new CZ compact mags with the 15 witness holes for CZ? The mags are stamped with CZ, but they are very difficult to load and seem cheaply made, by the sound of the compacting spring wile loading. Maybe the feel will get better after re-loading several times, maybe.
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Who makes the new CZ compact mags with the 15 witness holes for CZ? The mags are stamped with CZ, but they are very difficult to load and seem cheaply made, by the sound of the compacting spring wile loading. Maybe the feel will get better after re-loading several times, maybe.
Are you saying they're different than they've been in the past?
AFAIK, Mec-Gar has historically made CZ's CZ-branded mags...
Maybe Colt changed that as a cost-cutting measure?
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Are they the ones for the tilting or non-tilting barrel model?
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I feel like they do get better and easier to load with time. I’ve been looking for those mags…with the 15 witness holes and can’t seem to defund them. Even the MecGar branded stuff online has been the “3 holes in the side” variants.
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They are still made by Mec-Gar and they are good quality mags both the factory CZ stamped versions as well as the aftermarket Mec-Gar version. They can be a bit stiff loading when new but they loosen up. Using a mag loader such as the Maglula is helpful.
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My PCR came with one of the 2 magazines with the 15 holes. Now, while loading, I cannot tell any difference between it and the others.
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They are still made by Mec-Gar and they are good quality mags both the factory CZ stamped versions as well as the aftermarket Mec-Gar version. They can be a bit stiff loading when new but they loosen up. Using a mag loader such as the Maglula is helpful.
Yes, I use a mag loader and they are still very difficult to load. The black follower also looks slightly different than the Mec-Gar blue follower.
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They are still made by Mec-Gar and they are good quality mags both the factory CZ stamped versions as well as the aftermarket Mec-Gar version. They can be a bit stiff loading when new but they loosen up. Using a mag loader such as the Maglula is helpful.
Yes, I use a mag loader and they are still very difficult to load. The black follower also looks slightly different than the Mec-Gar blue follower.
Just use them as normal and they will loosen up eventually. I had some Sig Sauer factory P229-1 mags one time that were so tight when new I thought I'd break my loader getting the final round in but as I said they will loosen up.
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Check out ACT-MAG, an Italian magazine manufacturer.
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I bought a P01 earlier this year, the mags included were not the typical Mec-gar mags.
They reeked of ACT mag, which I have several of the full size and are top notch.
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I bought a P01 earlier this year, the mags included were not the typical Mec-gar mags.
They reeked of ACT mag, which I have several of the full size and are top notch.
That's interesting that CZ may have strayed to another magazine source after all these years. I have some ACT mags for a Beretta and they are not in the same league as the Meg-Gar versions I have on hand.
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It might be due to a capacity (pun intended) issue with Mec-Gar not being able to provide all of CZ’s needs, especially with the large Czech military contract for the P-10C .
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I bought a P01 earlier this year, the mags included were not the typical Mec-gar mags.
They reeked of ACT mag, which I have several of the full size and are top notch.
That's interesting that CZ may have strayed to another magazine source after all these years. I have some ACT mags for a Beretta and they are not in the same league as the Meg-Gar versions I have on hand.
Top right of their webpage, ACT lists CZ75 mags: https://actmagusa.com/ourproduct/#products
CZ75 9mm 10rd/15rd/17rd
Make: CZ75
Caliber: 9mm
Capacity: 10, 15, or 17 Rounds
Basepad: Polymer
Color: Blued
Construction /Material: Metal
Note that the "Learn More" link returns a bad URL, and that round count holes appear to be every two on the side of the mag, not individual to the rear...
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I know Act shows CZ75 mags on their site but the question is are they actually supplying them to CZ?? Pro-Mag makes them too or they used to but we all know they are pure garbage. I'd say if Act is supplying CZ mags then your comment above about Colt looking to cut cost is likely accurate. This would be just the kind of cheap out Colt would do.
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I know Act shows CZ75 mags on their site but the question is are they actually supplying them to CZ?? Pro-Mag makes them too or they used to but we all know they are pure garbage. I'd say if Act is supplying CZ mags then your comment above about Colt looking to cut cost is likely accurate. This would be just the kind of cheap out Colt would do.
Witness holes should be different between the two...
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I know Act shows CZ75 mags on their site but the question is are they actually supplying them to CZ?? Pro-Mag makes them too or they used to but we all know they are pure garbage. I'd say if Act is supplying CZ mags then your comment above about Colt looking to cut cost is likely accurate. This would be just the kind of cheap out Colt would do.
I would say supply issues.
Not to long ago, Mec-gar mags were pretty scarce and always out of stock.
I've looked at other brand new CZ pistols, most of those had mec-gar mags included.
They very well could have used ACT mag as a stop gap.
But I've got Act mags for Smith M&P, CZ full size and sig p220, all have been top notch.
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Are they the ones for the tilting or non-tilting barrel model?
I really don't think it matters on which type of barrel they are used for.
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I bought a P01 earlier this year, the mags included were not the typical Mec-gar mags.
They reeked of ACT mag, which I have several of the full size and are top notch.
That's interesting that CZ may have strayed to another magazine source after all these years. I have some ACT mags for a Beretta and they are not in the same league as the Meg-Gar versions I have on hand.
Top right of their webpage, ACT lists CZ75 mags: https://actmagusa.com/ourproduct/#products
CZ75 9mm 10rd/15rd/17rd
Make: CZ75
Caliber: 9mm
Capacity: 10, 15, or 17 Rounds
Basepad: Polymer
Color: Blued
Construction /Material: Metal
Note that the "Learn More" link returns a bad URL, and that round count holes appear to be every two on the side of the mag, not individual to the rear...
thanks SRS, for the ACT URL, but the CZ mags supplied with my last three CZ gun buys came with mags that looked differently then the URL pic, my CZ stamped 15 witness holes are on the back side along with a 9 X 19 stamping. I would provide a pic if there was a normal, more seamless way do to so so on this forum.
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I know Act shows CZ75 mags on their site but the question is are they actually supplying them to CZ?? Pro-Mag makes them too or they used to but we all know they are pure garbage. I'd say if Act is supplying CZ mags then your comment above about Colt looking to cut cost is likely accurate. This would be just the kind of cheap out Colt would do.
I would say supply issues.
Not to long ago, Mec-gar mags were pretty scarce and always out of stock.
I've looked at other brand new CZ pistols, most of those had mec-gar mags included.
They very well could have used ACT mag as a stop gap.
But I've got Act mags for Smith M&P, CZ full size and sig p220, all have been top notch.
Act mags for the CZ compact seem to be no where to be found but the factory and Mec-Gar versions are everywhere. CZ-USA has them and Greg Cote has plenty as well others have them too so yeah who's to say for sure. Seems it would be far easier to wait on a normal supplier to catch up that to wait on a new supplier to tool up.
I have more than 20 Mec-Gar 15 rounders and 30 of the old Mec-Gar 14 rounders with the flat steel base plate so I'm not really concerned what mags they ship with at this point.
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thanks SRS, for the ACT URL, but the CZ mags supplied with my last three CZ gun buys came with mags that looked differently then the URL pic, my CZ stamped 15 witness holes are on the back side along with a 9 X 19 stamping. I would provide a pic if there was a normal, more seamless way do to so so on this forum.
Imgur is easy to use for this site: https://imgur.com/
Regardless, it sounds like they resemble the P10/P09/P07 series of mags (and none of my CZ75 series mags) -- do we know for certain if Mec-Gar is actually the manufacturer of these mags in entirety, or is that just an assumption?
Link to P10 15 round mag and pics: https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1021435739?pid=354269
*Also note that MecGar is only selling 75 series mags on their website and none of the polymer series: https://mec-gar.com/
And purely spitballing -- but if these mags aren't Mec-Gar, I'd guess either Baltics (they remind me of the AREX mags that are supposedly mecgar bodies and their own components for the rest of the mag) or someone here in the US, as a manner of streamlining supply chains.
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Just bought the new S2 compact. It came will the non standard mags.
They also had a DWX compact, it had mec-gar mags.
These mags are NOT mec-gars. Blued finish, black follower, 15 witness holes on back, stiffer spring.
They are identical to the full size ACT mags I own.
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thanks SRS, for the ACT URL, but the CZ mags supplied with my last three CZ gun buys came with mags that looked differently then the URL pic, my CZ stamped 15 witness holes are on the back side along with a 9 X 19 stamping. I would provide a pic if there was a normal, more seamless way do to so so on this forum.
Imgur is easy to use for this site: https://imgur.com/
Regardless, it sounds like they resemble the P10/P09/P07 series of mags (and none of my CZ75 series mags) -- do we know for certain if Mec-Gar is actually the manufacturer of these mags in entirety, or is that just an assumption?
Link to P10 15 round mag and pics: https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1021435739?pid=354269
*Also note that MecGar is only selling 75 series mags on their website and none of the polymer series: https://mec-gar.com/
Mec-Gar only sells the 75 series mags on their site due to the fact that they have a non-competition agreement with CZ on the mags for the poly guns. this was documented by Mec-Gar on this forum a few years back when Mec-Gar actually had their own section.
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Just bought the new S2 compact. It came will the non standard mags.
They also had a DWX compact, it had mec-gar mags.
These mags are NOT mec-gars. Blued finish, black follower, 15 witness holes on back, stiffer spring.
They are identical to the full size ACT mags I own.
Well that's unfortunate that they are cheaping out with mags at this point. Everyone shows the Mec-Gars in stock and Greg Cote always has the aftermarket Mec-Gars for far less than the factory versions. If they perform well for those who have them over the next couple years without complaints I'll consider them.
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I also got the 15 witness hole magazines with my new p-01