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Title: Old eyes needing Green Dot: Should I mill my P-06 or start with new gun
Post by: Dollaregeneral on December 10, 2023, 04:24:19 PM
I have a P-06 and a 97BD that I like to shoot but I can't see anymore and want to add a dot.  Since both are discontinued am I Dumb to modify the slides?  Should I keep those as collectors and get a new pistol Optic ready?   Maybe start with a P-09 or just get a P-10 OR.

Title: Re: Old eyes needing Green Dot: Should I mill my P-06 or start with new gun
Post by: M1A4ME on December 10, 2023, 05:07:18 PM
Carry gun (concealed carry) or range/plinking gun?

If I was going to carry it concealed I'd pick a PCR or P01 to get one similar to your BD models.

For a range toy a P09 would be awesome.

And no, I wouldn't mill a P06.
Title: Re: Old eyes needing Green Dot: Should I mill my P-06 or start with new gun
Post by: Earl Keese on December 10, 2023, 09:13:25 PM
I wouldn't mill a P06 either. Dead caliber, poor capacity, and decent collector value. I would just buy and mill a P01 if you're married to the platform.
Title: Re: Old eyes needing Green Dot: Should I mill my P-06 or start with new gun
Post by: SI VIS PACEM PARRABELLUM on December 10, 2023, 10:14:49 PM
I have a P-06 and a 97BD that I like to shoot but I can't see crap anymore and want to add a dot.  Since both are discontinued am I Dumb to modify the slides?  Should I keep those as collectors and get a new pistol Optic ready?   Maybe start with a P-09 or just get a P-10 OR.
Have you considered a fiber optic front sight? I've found a red fiber optic front sight to be extremely helpful as my sight has diminished with age. This is something that could be added to either gun without modification and could easily be swapped back. Like has been said I would not mill that P-06 or any other gun which has the potential to increase in value.
Title: Re: Old eyes needing Green Dot: Should I mill my P-06 or start with new gun
Post by: Alcoy on December 11, 2023, 06:39:26 AM
I agree with others not to modify your P06.  Since you mentioned getting another CZ or an OR, that would be a good route.
Title: Re: Old eyes needing Green Dot: Should I mill my P-06 or start with new gun
Post by: GlennS1956 on December 11, 2023, 10:07:09 AM
As one old-eyeballed newbie to another, I would not alter that gun.  I'm trying to decide between getting a PCR and a P-01 now.  Leaning toward a P-01.
Title: Re: Old eyes needing Green Dot: Should I mill my P-06 or start with new gun
Post by: Alcoy on December 11, 2023, 10:16:28 AM
One “old-eyeballed” here waiting for a milled P-01 back from the machinist. 

If the OP decides on a PCR, he will lose the use LCI post-milling.  Can’t go wrong with either one or any CZ for that matter.
Title: Re: Old eyes needing Green Dot: Should I mill my P-06 or start with new gun
Post by: M1A4ME on December 11, 2023, 05:02:01 PM
Just remembered about dot optics.

The way the red/green dots look to me says I have astigmatism.  No matter how I twist/turn my head the 2 MOA Holosuns are squirrely looking against a target.  Not a dot, just squiggle/twirly starbursts.

But the 6 MOA K series (also smaller and a better match to the width of the P01/PCR/even CZ75 slides) Holosuns have a bigger and much nicer, rounder, more focused dot.  Just something to consider.  When I get my M&P Shield .40 S&W slide milled for a dot it'll likely be the K series Holosun.  I'm one of those guys who doesn't care about the window size because I'm not looking at the window, just where the dot is on the target.
Title: Re: Old eyes needing Green Dot: Should I mill my P-06 or start with new gun
Post by: Dollaregeneral on December 12, 2023, 10:13:25 PM
Thanks for all the help and thoughts.  I will try fiber on the p06   

Still want a new dot ready unit.  Optic ready P10c at $385?

Or spend $150 more to make p09 optic ready
Or spend $250 more to make p07 optic ready
Or spend $400 more to make p01 (when in stock)

Any grip mods or slip ons to make O9 not so boxy?


Title: Re: Old eyes needing Green Dot: Should I mill my P-06 or start with new gun
Post by: M1A4ME on December 13, 2023, 09:09:26 AM
Thanks for all the help and thoughts.  I will try fiber on the p06   

Still want a new dot ready unit.  Optic ready P10c at $385?

Or spend $150 more to make p09 optic ready
Or spend $250 more to make p07 optic ready
Or spend $400 more to make p01 (when in stock)

Any grip mods or slip ons to make O9 not so boxy?

For me, the P09 doesn't feel as good in my hand/grip as the CZ75 models or the M&P striker fired guns.  But it still shoots better than any of them.  I know we all talk about what feels good in our hands and how nice it is to have a gun that "fits".  It just doesn't seem to make the P09 shoot any worse for me because it feels blocky/square in my hand vs. the other two.  Same for the P07.
Title: Re: Old eyes needing Green Dot: Should I mill my P-06 or start with new gun
Post by: kabong57 on December 15, 2023, 12:59:50 AM
CGW milled my PCR for a direct mount 507K-2 Green. Sits low and pretty. Search CGW here Oct. 6 2021 for pics
Title: Re: Old eyes needing Green Dot: Should I mill my P-06 or start with new gun
Post by: wbnash on January 13, 2024, 08:29:42 AM
I am wrestling with the same dilemma on my PCR.  I have been running some cost figures and talking with Stuart at CZ Custom (who has been very helpful).

At 77 and after three eye surgeries, the old orbs just are not what they once were.  I have become a big fan of optical sights on my pistols.

This would be easier if CZ offered slides for sale like some other manufacturers.
Title: Re: Old eyes needing Green Dot: Should I mill my P-06 or start with new gun
Post by: Dollaregeneral on January 20, 2024, 06:48:50 PM
Still torn p10c OR SR
P07 mill it
Shadow 2 compact OR
P01 mill it
Dwx mill

Will be brief case and might stand go to.
Title: Re: Old eyes needing Green Dot: Should I mill my P-06 or start with new gun
Post by: AZ_CZ on January 20, 2024, 07:36:13 PM
If these are range guns and you’re not going to be carrying them I would look at replacing the rear sight with an optic mount. I have them on a 97 and a Phantom.  Lots of rounds — no issues — low cost. I have a P10C OR with cowitness sights for CCW and once you get use to RDS you’ll want all your handguns to have them. Unfortunately I don’t have that much money or a milling machine. These give you a low cost option to keep old guns from becoming safe queens.
Title: Re: Old eyes needing Green Dot: Should I mill my P-06 or start with new gun
Post by: crc4 on January 20, 2024, 07:44:58 PM
I have a P-06 and a 97BD that I like to shoot but I can't see crap anymore and want to add a dot.  Since both are discontinued am I Dumb to modify the slides?  Should I keep those as collectors and get a new pistol Optic ready?   Maybe start with a P-09 or just get a P-10 OR.

I had a similar problem in wanting a Green dot optic. None of my CZs (75b, 97b, P-01 Omega) had milled slides.

I solved that problem with a Masada Slim 9mm. Optics ready, very well-made, and takes CZ75 magazines. I'm happy. For $400 I have a great carry pistol.
Title: Re: Old eyes needing Green Dot: Should I mill my P-06 or start with new gun
Post by: AZ_CZ on January 21, 2024, 11:36:22 AM
I have a P-06 and a 97BD that I like to shoot but I can't see crap anymore and want to add a dot.  Since both are discontinued am I Dumb to modify the slides?  Should I keep those as collectors and get a new pistol Optic ready?   Maybe start with a P-09 or just get a P-10 OR.

I had a similar problem in wanting a Green dot optic. None of my CZs (75b, 97b, P-01 Omega) had milled slides.

I solved that problem with a Masada Slim 9mm. Optics ready, very well-made, and takes CZ75 magazines. I'm happy. For $400 I have a great carry pistol.


A new gun is always a great option, but it does nothing to help him shoot the guns he has. I’ve got a Kadet that has become a safe Queen now that I shoot a Taurus TX22 Competition with a RDS. My CZ 83 hasn’t been to the range in years. Same with my Dan Wesson 1911. If you have guns you want to shoot but not permanently alter due to potential value then $50 + optic buts it back in the range bag.