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GENERAL => Tactics and Competition => Topic started by: czfromaz on January 28, 2007, 12:20:21 PM

Title: square trigger guard
Post by: czfromaz on January 28, 2007, 12:20:21 PM

Does anyone put their index finger on the serrations on the front of the square trigger guard?  Ive tried it but its hard for me to keep it on. All the manufactures that have square trigger guards must expect us to use it if they have those serrations. Or is it just harder to do with CZ's?  I had a H&K 45 and my index finger had trouble also. I just prefer the standard method with the index finger under the trigger guard and the left thumb high on the slide.

Title: square trigger guard
Post by: Stuart on January 28, 2007, 12:30:32 PM

Believe Angus Hobdell of CZ-USA shoots that way...

you see very few people shoot that way as it doesn't offer any more advantage in recoil management.

Title: square trigger guard
Post by: Walt-Sherrill on January 28, 2007, 01:17:35 PM

Angus shoots that way, and gets a lot of flak for it...  But he says he just lays his finger lightly on the trigger guard -- and does not really use it as a strong point against which he applies pressure.

I've been in several classes where that approach is discouraged.  Brian Enos -- who is the model for many modern shooters -- also counsels against it.  His reasoning:  the idea is to have the gun balanced between the hands to keep it straight during recoil.  Having the finger pressing strongly against the front of the trigger guard can have the effect of disrupting that balance.

A larger trigger guard makes sense. Wrapping the off hand around the grip, under the trigger guard also makes sense.  I don't think using front of the trigger guard as a leverage point makes sense.

Title: square trigger guard
Post by: ipscjody on February 07, 2007, 05:30:43 PM

Some people like having the weak hand higher on the grip. Take a look at a pic of Jerry Barnhart, I doubt you will ever see an action-shooter with a more aggressive grip than he has. IPSC World chamion Eric Grauffel uses this grip as well. I agree we are preached at not to do it, but whatever works I guess. Apples and oranges. It is like an isoceles stance shooter asking a weaver stance shooter "why do you stand like that?" or "Where's the benefit in that?"

Title: square trigger guard
Post by: n-1SOW-czechpistols82792 on January 07, 2008, 09:37:22 PM

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4584332856867071363&pr=goog-sl (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4584332856867071363&pr=goog-sl)

This came from another thread and is worth seeing.
Listen and watch carefully.

Title: square trigger guard
Post by: piken on March 16, 2008, 11:47:54 PM

I was under the impression that a square trigger guard also helps in field use, ie. having the gun in your hand and using
for leverage, to push off, to get off the ground, hop a small wall etc., much more stable then a rounded trigger guard.

Title: square trigger guard
Post by: salskov on March 21, 2008, 07:45:56 PM

For what it's worth -

There's a two hand geometry involved with this. My left forefinger, at the first joint, hooks around the trigger guard. My left thumb lies on top of the slide release. My right thumb locks the base of my left thumb. I am not a pro or a competition shooter, but it is a natural "grip", and for me really locks the sight window and the recoil window.

But then again I've got pretty big hands.

P-01, by the way.