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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => Curio and Relic CZs => Topic started by: 6x6pinz on August 28, 2008, 07:30:01 PM

Title: new member to my CZ family
Post by: 6x6pinz on August 28, 2008, 07:30:01 PM
just picked up a CZ83 to compliment my CZ82 and CZ52
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/6x6pinz/firearms/100_1795.jpg)
Title: Re: new member to my CZ family
Post by: Otto N Sure on August 30, 2008, 06:51:34 PM
 :D Now you have to start looking for CZ 24's & 27's & 45's & Duo's!!

Otto
Title: Re: new member to my CZ family
Post by: 6x6pinz on September 13, 2008, 06:59:52 PM
well went to the gun show today and what do you know a real nice what looks like a CZ27 found its way home with me.  Now all I need are a couple of magazines for it.  Are the aftermarket ones any good?  Where do you find them at a relatively decent price?
The markings on the gun do not match the ones I see in pictures of the cz27.  Mine has the words Ceska Zbrojovka  Narodni Podnik  Strakonice with 765 in a circle.  Serial number is 576xxx  right side of frame is stamped made in czechoslovakia  47. 
Any thoughts??
Thanks
Title: Re: new member to my CZ family
Post by: skucera on September 14, 2008, 02:10:12 AM
"Narodni Podnik" means "National Enterprise" and is the suffix given to nationalized industries under communism in Czechoslovakia.  I think you've already figured out the meanings of all your stampings, but I'll confirm them for you. 

All pistols were made in Strakonice until 1955 or so... or so it appears from what I've read over the years.  It was only in 1955 that pistol production was transferred to Uherzky Brod, and the Stakonice factory was then used to build motorcycles and other CZ branded consumer goods. 

The 765 in the circle is the caliber, meaning that this gun is chambered for 7.65 Browning, which is also known as .32 ACP. 

The "Made in Czechoslovakia" stamp means that it was made for the American civilian market and exported here legally before the Cold War froze commerce between the East and the West.

Scott
Title: Re: new member to my CZ family
Post by: 6x6pinz on September 14, 2008, 06:44:44 AM
I know I need to get a group shot but here is the pistol
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v721/6x6pinz/firearms/100_2344.jpg)
Title: Re: new member to my CZ family
Post by: William Chase on September 14, 2008, 07:14:51 PM
Wow! That little beauty looks like it was kept in a safe somewhere for 80-odd years!

Bill
Title: Re: new member to my CZ family
Post by: 6x6pinz on September 14, 2008, 11:29:27 PM
got to take it out tonight.  was shooting clay pidgeons(left over from some skeet shooting we were doing) at 15yds.  very nice shooter and surprising accurate.  The guys and gal I was with really liked the way it shot and the light feel from the recoil.  I need to find a holster for it now.  I would prefer not to have a leather holster.  Any suggestions?
Title: Re: new member to my CZ family
Post by: 6x6pinz on September 15, 2008, 10:45:34 PM
took it to the range today with a guy who does not like anything that is not American.  After shooting it he is contemplating getting either one like it or somehting similar.

One thing I am still not clear on, can I describe this pistol as a CZ27?  With no clear markings as such might cause some confusion.
Title: Re: new member to my CZ family
Post by: skucera on September 15, 2008, 11:51:26 PM
I found some images for the two pistols.  As another poster mentioned earlier, the CZ 24's slide has rounded sides; the CZ 27's slide has flat sides.

First, the CZ 24 with its cylindrical slide:
(http://www.collectiblefirearms.com/New%20Pictures%207/czp_0060x.jpg)

Next, the CZ 27 with its flat-sided slide:
(http://www.collectiblefirearms.com/New%20Pictures%207/czp_0070x.jpg)

The difference is pretty clear, so, yes, you can call yours a CZ 27.

Scott
Title: Re: new member to my CZ family
Post by: 6x6pinz on September 16, 2008, 12:13:45 AM
Thanks, I only ask as there are so many differences between the pictures of the CZ27's I see and what mine looks like.  I have not ever considered it to be a 24 but raher the possiblity of a gun made in Czech that was similar but not necessarily a 27.  As in your picture above the side plate above the grip has a serial number, mine does not, there are no marks on the pistol that indicate that it is a 27 as there are in the pictures of the 27's I have seen, also the serial number is very high by comparison to those who have shown their numbers.  The gun looks and would appear to be a 27 just not like the ones that everyone uses to identify them.  The grooves below the rear sight on all 27's I have seen are all vertical while the 24's are at an angle to the frame.
In the end it really is a very fun gun to shoot and unbelievably accurate. Now to find the cz24.
Title: Re: new member to my CZ family
Post by: OldShooter on October 04, 2008, 07:49:43 PM
I believe the other distinction between the CZ 24 & 27 is that the CZ24 was chambered in .380 ACP. I bought a CZ27 a week ago and shot it today, very satisfactory.
Title: Re: new member to my CZ family
Post by: gurnemanz on October 20, 2008, 12:09:40 AM
There's a school of science fiction writing called 'steampunk,' and - hooboy - the CZ 27 looks like it comes straight out of something of the sort.