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CZ LONG ARMS => VZ-58 semi auto rifle => Topic started by: DJokr on October 17, 2009, 07:07:56 PM

Title: Problems with gun cleaner!
Post by: DJokr on October 17, 2009, 07:07:56 PM

I own a VZ 58 by D-Technik with the dark gray finish. I ran into a problem when cleaning the rifle.  I decided to use Gun Scrubber to clean the inside of the receiver and to my horror the cleaner started to strip the finish off of the rifle. ??? Have any of you had this problem with this cleaner?

Title: Re: Problems with gun cleaner!
Post by: dusty10 on October 17, 2009, 08:18:29 PM

I think they caution about getting it on paint in the instructions.  Contact Dan at Czechpoint-USA for what to do now about your finish.

Title: Re: Problems with gun cleaner!
Post by: DJokr on October 17, 2009, 09:01:21 PM

I was lucky, it only stripped a small area inside the receiver where the mag attaches.   

Title: Re: Problems with gun cleaner!
Post by: jwc007 on October 18, 2009, 12:49:48 AM

Use either Polymer Safe Gunscrubber or CRC Electronic Connector Cleaner (available in some department store automotive sections) instead.

Title: Re: Problems with gun cleaner!
Post by: CzechPoint on October 19, 2009, 11:36:26 AM

The paint on the inside of the magazine well (on 30 round magazine rifles) is applied after the magazine well has been CNC machined.  Since this is not a baked on paint, gun scrubber and other aggressive cleaners will most likely remove this paint.  Unfortunately, applying a baked-on paint finish to the inside of the mag well would increase the price of each rifle considerably.  We continue to test non-baked paint, but none have proved as tough as the original baked-on paint. 

Thanks,
Dan

Title: Re: Problems with gun cleaner!
Post by: geeded on October 20, 2009, 07:26:31 PM

Would it do any good if I put the barreled receiver in the over and baked it?  Would this cure the mag well paint or is it a different type?  If it will work, at what temp and for how long?

Thanks!

Title: Re: Problems with gun cleaner!
Post by: armoredman on October 20, 2009, 11:32:49 PM

I can't help but think that would be a bad idea. :o

Title: Re: Problems with gun cleaner!
Post by: 2fewdaysafield on October 20, 2009, 11:35:43 PM

Quote from: geeded on October 20, 2009, 07:26:31 PM

Would it do any good if I put the barreled receiver in the over and baked it?  Would this cure the mag well paint or is it a different type?  If it will work, at what temp and for how long?

Thanks!

I prefer to shoot my guns rather than cook them, though I have been known to cook what I shoot with them. ;)

Title: Re: Problems with gun cleaner!
Post by: cz671 on October 21, 2009, 02:37:02 AM

i also have problems with paint coming off (no biggy) due from me using aggresive cleaners as stated by dan, my vz is also the dark gray from cz-usa. 

Title: Re: Problems with gun cleaner!
Post by: CzechPoint on October 21, 2009, 08:48:16 PM

Unfortunately, baking regular paint does not work.  Here's what I would recommend:  http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=1143/Product/AEROSOL_BAKING_LACQUER (http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=1143/Product/AEROSOL_BAKING_LACQUER)

I've personally used this product years ago and it is still holding up well on a muzzle break.  I wouldn't refinish an entire rifle with it (an airbrush is better for application), but this stuff works great for small areas and parts. 

Dan