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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CLUB CZ97 => Topic started by: Capt-Judburn on October 24, 2005, 08:11:05 AM

Title: 97B Production stopped ??
Post by: Capt-Judburn on October 24, 2005, 08:11:05 AM
Hello everybody,
Reading you from a land far far away, I finally decided to take a closer look to this famous CZ97B.
My gunsmith just told me that CZ has stopped the production of the 97.
According to him, it's probably because they will soon present a new .45 model.
Does anybody heard about that? Just a fake?
Thank you for all the information you can give on this forum.
PS: sorry for my bad english... I'm so far...:smokin
Title: 97B Production stopped ??
Post by: laviecfantastik on October 24, 2005, 08:22:46 AM
hello!
in my opinion, cz dosen't stopped the production, this gun is recent... anyone can answ???


Sorry for my english:\
Title: 97B Production stopped ??
Post by: Walt-Sherrill on October 24, 2005, 10:39:02 AM
Gunsmiths and dealers generally don't have good info about things like this.  

Some dealers were told that production of new CZ-85s, recently, were put on hold for a couple of months,as other guns were pushed through the plant.  If production is stopped on the 97B, its probably just a temporary delay, like with the CZ-85s.
Title: 97B Production stopped ??
Post by: BRASMAN on October 24, 2005, 12:20:14 PM
Well if it is true I hope it is because they are kind of making an over sized monster sp01/97B combination but I also do not see why they wouls stop production on the regular 97B because a practical/tactical/operator/xtreme or what ever buzz word you put there would not fill some shooters needs and they would prefer old reliable. In any case I am very glad I have mine.
Title: 97B Production stopped ??
Post by: cziznit on October 25, 2005, 09:52:51 PM
I wouldn't be surprised. After all, they discontinued the 40B, which is an awesome pistol. That is bad news if true. If anything they should make a small 97B.
Title: 97B Production stopped ??
Post by: sjbrook on November 06, 2005, 09:32:04 AM
Or maybe a 97B in 10mm...Mmmmm - probably never happen...oh well.
Title: 97B Production stopped ??
Post by: Walt-Sherrill on November 06, 2005, 09:51:45 AM
They didn't STOP production of the 40B.  It actually never REALLY started.

The 40B was originally built as a joint venture with Colt; it was designed to be the Colt Z40.  But Colt backed out on the deal before they got into full production (less than 1000 were made).  CZ was left with a production line ramped up to produce Z-40s and built a bunch of CZ-40Bs (very similar to the Z40) and sold them at rock-bottom prices.

A good gun and great prices.  

The 40B guns we've been able to buy probably would not have existed except for Colt's participation.  Ditto the 40P, which is a gun made up of leftover 40B slides and P-01 frames (with some modifications.)
Title: 97B Production stopped ??
Post by: Otto N Sure on November 06, 2005, 10:41:47 PM
Walt:

Is this the pistol that J & G Sales (http://www.jgsales.com) in Arizona are advertising for $299?  I wondered about that.  

Still in love with my 97!

Otto N. Sure
Title: 97B Production stopped ??
Post by: Walt-Sherrill on November 07, 2005, 05:50:19 AM
I saw a 40P on their site for $300, if that's what you mean.  That's the "second" variation of the original Colt Z-40... mounted on a different frame.

(Its amazing: they'll put a .40 slide on a alloy p-01 [lighter] frame, but everything since then has been steel.  I'd prefer alloy, given a choice.)
Title: 97B Production stopped ??
Post by: Otto N Sure on November 07, 2005, 03:16:58 PM
Thanks Walt!

Here's a link to this pistol S & G's CZ 40-P (http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976633918.htm)

It looks very interesting, if I had a spare $300 I'd pick one up!

Otto N. Sure
Title: 97B Production stopped ??
Post by: mbott on November 07, 2005, 06:44:47 PM
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It looks very interesting, if I had a spare $300 I'd pick one up!


The biggest surprise for my on the 40P was the accuracy.  I can outshoot most of my other .40 caliber CZs with the 40P.  It just doesn't want to miss.  :)

--
Mike
Title: 97B Production stopped ??
Post by: Fordzilla on December 05, 2005, 04:54:53 PM
Spoke with Jason Morton of CZUSA today, wrapping up a few last minute questions for my article.  He said production IS NOT stopping on the 97B, they are only discontinuing the glossy blue finish.
Title: 97B Production stopped ??
Post by: Otto N Sure on December 06, 2005, 04:16:01 PM
No more "glossy blue"!!  I'm so glad that mine has it, now I not only have a fabulous pistol, but have a collector's item as well!

Otto N. Sure
Title: 97B Production stopped ??
Post by: RioGrande481 on December 07, 2005, 12:46:03 AM
I hope this might leave the way open for a stainless... or dare I wish it a hard chrome version of the 97B?
Title: 97B Production stopped ??
Post by: CZKrazy on December 07, 2005, 12:59:06 PM
I got my glossy blue finish by mistake.  Maybe it was a good mistake.  I know one thing about it.  The glossy blue shows a lot of machine marks that do not show on the matte finish.
Title: 97B Production stopped ??
Post by: wanderlust005 on December 07, 2005, 10:30:08 PM
speaking of which, is it advisable to have your brand new black matte re-finished to say chrome or silver? or should i wait for it to show some wear before i try to introduce any refinish on the gun?
Title: 97B Production stopped ??
Post by: Fordzilla on December 07, 2005, 10:39:05 PM
Personal preference.
Title: 97B Production stopped ??
Post by: wanderlust005 on December 07, 2005, 10:45:39 PM
thanks... ;)
Title: 97B Production stopped ??
Post by: Walt-Sherrill on December 08, 2005, 06:33:29 AM
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speaking of which, is it advisable to have your brand new black matte re-finished to say chrome or silver? or should i wait for it to show some wear before i try to introduce any refinish on the gun?
First, it may be a long, long time before there's enough finish wear to justify refinishing.  The polycoat finish is quite durable.  And small nicks or scratches can be fixed with Duplicolor matte black auto touch up paint.

(Jim Miossi, in our Home Gunsmithing area, explains how to do a more permanent and durable finish of large areas -- that is indistinguishable from the factory finish, and just as durable.  He can do that work, if the need arises.)

Second: have you priced refinishing.  It might make you willing to put up with some blemishes.  Refinishing and shipping will go well over the $200 level, and then some, for any plated finish...
Title: 97B Production stopped ??
Post by: wanderlust005 on December 11, 2005, 10:46:50 PM
Again, Thanks Walt...   made me think a little bit more bout it. Lucky for me, local guns smiths in my area do offer such refinishing service, what i do doubt is the end result (im a believer of the "expert touch" :D  ).

my guns currently a week old (in my possession at least), and about 300 rounds through it, yesterday after i got home from the range i noticed a silverish speck at the flat top area of my gun (near the ejection port), i couldnt seem to wipe it off, now the tip Walt just gave will readily address and hopefully fix the perceived problem. Dang, my problems solved even before i could post it. :eek

this forum is awesome and smoking!!! :smokin

hats off to ye all!!!
Title: 97B Production stopped ??
Post by: wanderlust005 on December 11, 2005, 11:02:27 PM
and yes i  almost forgot:

You see I was reviewing my Guns and Ammo mag (july 2005 issue), last saturday when I came about the Handgunning page of Garry James, which was aptly entitled CZ ACQUIRES DAN WESSON, to quote:

while the transition is expected to take about 60 days (and this should be complete by the time you read this), right now the Commander-size stainless 1911 type in .45 ACP  and 10mm and the Pointman 5-incher in the same calibers are available (for a complete reading see page 22 ibid).

This seems quite intriguing given this topic and if taken in context with what really started this topic. But could it really be? :(