The Original CZ Forum
CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CZ CLONE CLUB => Topic started by: small on November 05, 2011, 07:06:44 PM
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He guys been lurking for a bit and now I have something to add besides my intro on the welcome.
I have been into guns for as long as I can remember, and have had many still own a bunch and my taste have changed over and over over the years. I'd been a wheel gun guy for a while, a 45 guy for a while, and then it happened I finally bought a 9mm. Not just any but a Browning Hi-power. WOW what a difference. There I have been for the last 15+ years shooting my beloved BHP. It has been the best pistol I've ever owned. SO much so that even though I have looked at others like the HK p7M8 or P30 , or one of the CZ 75's I have gotten the feeling I was cheating on my Hi Power. It isn't to say I didn't look at others I just tried to stay away. Well Gun Broker is going to kill me. I decided if a great deal came along for a CZ75/Tanfoglio or other clone showed up for little money I'd give it a try. Well it happen I found a guy selling a beat up TA90 and I stole his pictures for this post. I will post post some of mine when I get a chance. As with just about anything I buy the first thing I do is take it all a part and either break or loose something well guess what.
The rear sight "Seemed" to be bent down so far as the hammer seemed not to clear and I'd have to apply a bit of force with my thumb to have it fall the rest of the way forward. No big deal take out the two set crews and drive it off with a punch right? My bench is set up for reloading so not the best for smithing but hey I can't wait. I back the screws out get a wood block,punch and hammer tapping first from right to left and then left to right. Gingerly not all thor and all. After a bit I try a bit harder and then harder then I stop and go to the net. A read a post about leaving the original sights are a PITA to remove?? OK it looks like it just needs to be bent back out of the way the slightest amount so what the hell I tap it and when I say tap I mean tap it from the bottom of the sight and the Bitch breaks right then and there. A few choice words later I pick up my broken parts and say ok looks like I'm buying a new rear sight. Then think maybe up grade! But being cheap I then knocked the dovetail out and it slide like a breeze WTH. So now I have the two pieces and I'm looking on the net hopefully for a used rear and no luck. I see new rears even one that says original over at Henning but its hard to tell if its the same. Also my front sight seems to go on and off left to right also where the Henning's front looks like it is removed back to front? If this was some rare variant rear sight that was worth $$$$ more then the gun b/c of the rear sight please keep that to yourself I feel bad enough already.
Also looking on here a bit I don't see one like it either. Is it possible it isn't original? Possible they had bent that low intentionally so as to shoot higher for longer distances? It is hard to read the markings from the pictures but the left side of the slide says:
FRATELLI TANFOGLIO SpA GARDONE V.T. ITALY
MOD. TA 90 CAL. 9mm PARABELLUM
The left side of the frame under the slide has
CAI Georgia VT
COMBAT SHOOTING
COHAI
The right side has the serial number AB016XX on the frame slide and barrel.
So anyone recognize the rear sight? Anyone have a take off for sale? I brazed the rear sight back together in my garage not bad it should hold for a while (fingers crossed) have to get to the range and see how this does. The trigger seems smooth, It is a bit far forward for my hand and I've looked at some replacements too. I have been looking and researching for a while as it took near two weeks for this to get here.
Anyway look at these pictures and I'll do some of my own when I've time and the suns out.
(I should add that the guy I bought it from was a great seller and hope he is ok with me using his photos they have is water mark so he is getting credit and all. I'll take them down if anyone objects.)
(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj108/cz-lux/TA90/pix512695139.jpg)
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(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj108/cz-lux/TA90/pix685697049.jpg)
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The "Combat Shooting Cohai" inscription tells me that this is a recent Israeli shooting club surplus import and this one looks well used. Also, it is a third year production pre-series 88 and most all pre-series 88 TZ75/TA90 parts will fit it. The Rear Sight pictured is not original. Sights similar to this one are sold for the CZ75 and may exchange and might require some minor fitting or shimming.
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The guns a dog to look t and that is why I think it went so cheap. In person I'm more then pleased.
jwc007 you say "Sights similar to this one are sold for the CZ75" Do the fixed sights I see hang over the slide like this? Is the dove tail where it fits in the slide farther back then maybe newer models I see? was this maybe to give a longer sight radius and make it easier to shoot straight?
Thanks again.
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Do the fixed sights I see hang over the slide like this?
Factory Original, No. Optional Aftermarket which is what you have, Yes.
Is the dove tail where it fits in the slide farther back then maybe newer models I see?
No
was this maybe to give a longer sight radius and make it easier to shoot straight?
Yes. That and it also brings the Rear Sights closer to the Shooters Eyes, which can help with some near-sightedness.
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OH my oh my I went to the range yesterday morning and gave this ugly girl a dance. Remember I brazed the rear sight back on after a slight mishap so there was no telling where point of aim to point of impact was going to be. Fingers crossed. First 10 rounds at 10 yards produced a nice group (for me) that only got better over time as I got used to the trigger. The front trigger guard how its almost flat and serrated make such a huge difference. I brought my BHP along to see how they compared. Like my children I could not choose between the two I don't love one more then the other but I have loved the BHP longer. This was absolutely one of the best purchases I have made in a long time. Now time to get some mags, loading the 10 rounder 20 times was a chore when I really wanted to be squeezing that trigger. I learned that lesson w/t BHP and have 11 mags loaded before I even hit the range!
(http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/jj108/cz-lux/TA90/Picture084.jpg)
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Congratulations and nice shooting! 8)
Glad it's working well for you too! It sometimes takes a bit of time to get used to the trigger pull of a different firearm.
Also, it you do not yet have one, consider an Uplula Magazine loader. It will save you the trouble or preloading your Magazines for a trip to the Range and makes further loading easy. See Link: http://youtu.be/Zos_7e-c4t0