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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => Compact CZ 75s => Topic started by: Vegas-Shooter on November 17, 2011, 02:16:06 AM

Title: New aluminum guide rod
Post by: Vegas-Shooter on November 17, 2011, 02:16:06 AM
I picked up an aluminum guide rod from CZ-USA for my P01.
http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/uu342/chadinvegas/454f9c33.jpg

http://i662.photobucket.com/albums/uu342/chadinvegas/f78a0fc7.jpg

Hopefully it will work out well.
Title: Re: New aluminum guide rod
Post by: Mountain Walker on November 18, 2011, 04:30:08 AM
what ever is wrong with the plastic one?
Title: New aluminum guide rod
Post by: Palumbo3284 on November 18, 2011, 02:39:42 PM
Mine was just delivered yesterday. I don't think there is anything wrong with it. My plastic one was bowed, so I just felt more comfortable replacing it with the aluminum one.  It was only $18.
Title: Re: New aluminum guide rod
Post by: Czechplease on November 18, 2011, 03:00:15 PM
Get some rounds downrange and report back.  I've been eyeing one myself and since YOU dropped the cash....I'll wait for the report before ordering.
Title: New aluminum guide rod
Post by: Palumbo3284 on November 20, 2011, 09:46:25 AM
Get some rounds downrange and report back.  I've been eyeing one myself and since YOU dropped the cash....I'll wait for the report before ordering.

I'm heading to the range on Tuesday.  Is there something specific you want me to be paying close attention so I can report back with some feedback?  I'll be taking the polymer guide rod along and comparing between the two.
Title: Re: New aluminum guide rod
Post by: Stuart on November 20, 2011, 09:47:52 AM
where did you order an aluminum rod? how is wearing with the recoil spring?
Title: New aluminum guide rod
Post by: Palumbo3284 on November 20, 2011, 10:39:04 AM
where did you order an aluminum rod? how is wearing with the recoil spring?

CZ-USA web store.  As far as wear...unknown.  No rds through the pistol yet with it to tell. :)
Title: Re: New aluminum guide rod
Post by: Stuart on November 20, 2011, 11:49:02 AM
thanks..only seeing the poly and stainless rods. I'll have to look harder for the aluminum rods.
Title: New aluminum guide rod
Post by: Palumbo3284 on November 20, 2011, 12:12:23 PM
http://shop.cz-usa.com/P-465700000503/Recoil-Spring-Guide-Alum-Compact97.aspx
Title: Re: New aluminum guide rod
Post by: Stuart on November 20, 2011, 01:16:06 PM
http://shop.cz-usa.com/P-465700000503/Recoil-Spring-Guide-Alum-Compact97.aspx

thanks!
Title: Re: New aluminum guide rod
Post by: Czechplease on November 21, 2011, 12:59:07 PM
Palumbo,
I'm just curious as to wear issues relating to the steel spring moving back and forth on the aluminum rod.  I had a bad experience, albeit with a different make of pistol, with the metal of the guide rod not liking the metal of the spring interacting with it.  It began to gall so frequently/severely that the weapon could no longer be counted on.  I can see no such likelihood with the polymer rod, I'm just a little worried about the "head" of the guide rod detaching from the rod itself. (probably never happen...I know, but even LESS likely to happen with aluminum I'm thinking)
Title: Re: New aluminum guide rod
Post by: 75Plus on November 21, 2011, 04:06:10 PM
If the rod is made from a HARD aluminum alloy and anodized, which it likely is, it should last as long as the pistol. All that is needed is a light coating of oil.

Joe
Title: New aluminum guide rod
Post by: Palumbo3284 on November 23, 2011, 04:25:07 PM
500 rds yesterday, aluminum guide rode, stock spring...no signs of wear/damage on spring, guide rod, or frame.  So far so good.
Title: Re: New aluminum guide rod
Post by: Sion on December 01, 2011, 09:58:22 AM
What is the benefit of a steel or aluminum guide rod or is it just for peace of mind for those that don't trust the polymer guide rod to hold up? Mine has some bowing in it but I assumed that was natural since it's been like that since I bought the pistol brand new.
Title: Re: New aluminum guide rod
Post by: ThunderOne on December 08, 2011, 05:09:19 PM
I could see the plstic guide rod being broken if it gets dropped on its face with the slide racked.. a freak accident scenario, but it could still happen.
Title: New aluminum guide rod
Post by: Palumbo3284 on December 10, 2011, 02:28:59 PM
For me, it's was purely a personal thing.  The gun is so well built. I couldn't stand having a plastic guide rod.
Title: Re: New aluminum guide rod
Post by: Sion on December 11, 2011, 11:59:58 PM
If I switch to an aluminum guide rod should I also switch to a round recoil spring over the flat coil stock recoil spring?

If so, is 17lbs the rating of the stock recoil spring in the P-01?
Title: Re: New aluminum guide rod
Post by: dee_nos on March 11, 2012, 11:19:46 AM
i also bought an aluminum guide rod for my p0-1 when i noticed the polymer one had bowed. it was $18 and $9.41 to ship. are little padded envelopes that expensive?
Title: Re: New aluminum guide rod
Post by: mkd on March 11, 2012, 07:04:40 PM
sion!17lbs is the stock spring!if you have done some mods to the hammer spring etc,judge your recoil spring by the lenght the cases are thrown.schmeky told me 6 to 8' is where they should land.the heavier the spring the shorter they go!
Title: Re: New aluminum guide rod
Post by: Sion on March 12, 2012, 12:38:08 PM
I ordered an aluminum guide rod for my P-01 and haven't noticed any wear through 500 rounds except for a very small chip in the head of the guide rod but it could have shipped that way and I just didn't notice, again VERY small chip.

One thing to mention is that the aluminum guide rod is slightly thicker than the polymer guide rod so the stock flat coil spring scrubs against the aluminum guide rod. I ordered a round coil 17lb Wolf Spring to stop the scrubbing and have had no issues.
Title: Re: New aluminum guide rod
Post by: dee_nos on March 12, 2012, 06:38:57 PM
images of my ploy guide next to the alumimum
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/194/009oce.jpg/
(http://)http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/855/008gqi.jpg/
Title: Re: New aluminum guide rod
Post by: dee_nos on March 12, 2012, 06:48:37 PM
the poly rod is slightly longer, even when bowed while the aluminum rod is thicker in diameter. sorry, those pictures sucked. they didn't show what i'm trying to say
Title: Re: New aluminum guide rod
Post by: dee_nos on March 12, 2012, 07:00:36 PM
i read in another thread that cz recommends the aluminum guide rod and that led me to switch. plus seeing that bent rod sort of freaked me out. now after readed what other members have posted, i think maybe i over reacted  :-\