Post by: PCRit on June 17, 2002, 01:59:28 PM
To order with a visa/mastercard, call Mike at 1-800-955-4486.
Shoot well.
Dave
Post by: PCRit on June 17, 2002, 02:10:59 PM
Dave
Post by: PCRit on June 17, 2002, 02:23:34 PM
I assume this would be OK
Dave
Post by: jhooten on June 17, 2002, 04:05:37 PM
This was a phone conversation and I did not ask for a written confirmation, so take it for what it is worth, one ATF agents opinion of wht the law says.
Post by: PCRit on June 17, 2002, 04:46:40 PM
Is there a lawyer out there who really knows the answer to this???
Inquiring minds want to know
Post by: Trebor1415 on June 21, 2002, 01:06:59 AM
It is illegal to manufacture new high capacity (over 10 round) magazines. Period. End of sentence (or begining of a possible prison sentence if you do...) This applies to both manufacturers and individuals. The exception is mags manufactured for military or law enforcement use, or those intended for export to other countries where they are legal. Those mags are almost always marked.
It doesn't matter if you create your new high capacity mag by "converting" an existing low capacity mag through parts subsitution or by assembling all the individual components into a new mag. Any way you look it at, it's "manufacturing" and it's illegal. Even if all the individual parts existed before the ban in 1994, they had to have been assembled into a mag before that date to be legal.
It is also illegal to "create" a new hi capacity mag from a low capacity mag by substituting different ammo than the mag was designed to use. That means that it is illegal to load 12 or 13 rounds of 9mm ammo into a 10 round .40 mag. (Now if the .40 mag was preban AND originally held over 10 rounds of .40 ammo, it would be ok. With either ammo it's still a preban high capacity mag) I know some here disagree with me on this, but the only way I can "prove" this is by getting a letter addressing this specific issue from the ATF, and I'm not about to poke my hand into that hornet's nest.
The only high capacity mags that can be imported are those that were manufactured before the ban in 1994.That means that for some weapons, there are NO civilian legal high capacity mags existing. (Certain HK pistols designed in Europe come to mind because even though they were designed for high caps and are sold that way in Europe, no magazines were actually produced before 1994)
Replacement parts, like mag bodies, can be manufactured and imported. They are intended to be used only to repair damaged or otherwise unservicable pre ban high capacity magazines on a one-for-one basis. (I hadn't heard the bit about only the factory being allowed to do those repairs so I don't know if that is true or not)
Are people illegally assembly high capacity post ban mags from replacement parts? I'm sure some are. Even if some people seem to be getting away with it, it's never a good idea to break the law or instruct or aid others in breaking the law.
Trebor
Post by: PCRit on June 21, 2002, 02:56:15 PM
Post by: Bradster on June 26, 2002, 12:15:23 PM
Post by: ut83 on June 27, 2002, 09:02:09 PM
Owning them and carrying them is fine also....they dont need to have a stamp on them stating they were made before the ban or any of that hoopla either. But your gun had better be a preban model gun or your in deep bad karma also...
You can carry hi caps only if your gun was made for them.
A Compact will fly..I believe they were imported with hi caps in the past....now a PCR is a different story.
The tubes CZUSA have are for "repairing" hi cap mags that are damaged....I have a couple that are in need of repair as we speak. Thats it........
Shoot well
P.S If you alter a 10 round mag to accept more ammo....double bad karma. You can however modify mags that are hi caps already to fit another hi cap model gun.....
example witness to cz mags...etc.