Post by: Deputy Dawg on December 04, 2001, 05:29:09 PM
(http://nd4speed.home.mindspring.com/pix2/comp01.jpg)
Post by: Carlos-czechpistols82792 on December 04, 2001, 09:21:34 PM
Unfortunately I dont yet own a PCR and/or Glock, but I am working the ropes for the PCR.
Carlos
Post by: Deputy Dawg on December 05, 2001, 03:07:52 AM
They are actually pretty close in size. The CZ is 1/10" thinner if you don't include the slide stop and safety. If you include all the levers on both, the CZ is slightly wider than the Glock but still less than 1/4" difference in width... excluding grips. The CZ grips are just over 1/4" thicker than the G19 at it's widest point.
The CZ measures 5.20" in height as opposed to the G19 at 5.00, both being measured from tip of rear sight to lowest point of mag. (ten rounder with plastic floor plate in 75) Again, less than 1/4" difference.
I ligned them up side by side with the barrell tips against a straight line for length comparison (see pic below). The longest point on the G19 is the bottom of the grip just below the lanyard hole. The 75's longest point with the barrell squared against a flat surface appears to be the grip tang at the top of the grip frame. The G19 appears to be just a tad longer using these points. Yet again, less than 1/4".
Pic for comparison...
(http://nd4speed.home.mindspring.com/pix2/g19c75.jpg)
Capacity is 13 rounds with a CZ high cap and 15 rounds with a Glock high cap. The CZ is noticeably heavier but I have no way of measuring the difference in ounces. Shootability is subjective and since I have put far more rounds through Glocks I feel more comfortable shooting the G19 at this point. Reliability has been absolute with both to this point, but again, I haven't put as many rounds through the 75 as I have the 19. As for accuracy, they are both more accurate than I am most days!
Hope this helps...
Post by: ut83 on December 05, 2001, 06:47:31 AM
Cool little comparison..the pic comparing sizes was most interesting. The glock may have the comp. beat by a ways
in the weight dept. I am not sure how much.
I did the same kind of comparison at a gun store yesterday.
With my compact and a cz 100...they are pretty much the same size tip to tip. I am looking at my 3rd cz...(rubbing
hands togethor...deviously!) tee hee hee
shoot well
Post by: Deputy Dawg on December 05, 2001, 02:52:39 PM
One thing that interested me was the fact that the Glocks sight radius was quite a bit longer.
Post by: Carlos-czechpistols82792 on December 05, 2001, 03:29:32 PM
I was also surprised by the fact that the Glock has a longer sight radius.
Now the real difference could be in the wallet department, I bet that there is a huge difference there
Thank you for tanking the time an effort DD. Well done.
Carlos
Post by: Deputy Dawg on December 06, 2001, 05:56:39 AM
Being in law enforcement the Glock only cost me $399+ tax new in box with three mags. If I remember correctly the Compact was $389+ tax. Considering the fact that the Compact had a factory CZ Compact high cap in it when I bought it new, the CZ was still a much better deal!
If you don't allow for the value of the accidental high cap in the box with the new Compact there was only about $10 difference for me. For those not in LE though, there would be a more considerable difference between the two in price.
Post by: armoredman on December 06, 2001, 08:45:47 AM
Dave
Post by: CZ-samurai on December 06, 2001, 11:25:23 AM
I couldn't grab one because I have my Baby Eagle .45 on order... and only one pistol per month in Kalifornia. I am just curious.
Also, in the above comparison, neither gun looks really compact. Aren't they both pretty bulky? I have shot the smallest baby Glocks and they are alot smaller. Is a 19 a medium frame?
--Samurai
Post by: armoredman on December 06, 2001, 11:38:33 AM
The baby Glocks are neat, though. They just don't fit me worth beans. I'll stick with the Compact.
Dave
Post by: Carlos-czechpistols82792 on December 06, 2001, 04:23:19 PM
Post by: Deputy Dawg on December 07, 2001, 07:00:18 AM
I find the Glock 26/27/33 too bulky and heavy for pocket carry. They are almost too big for ankle carry in my opinion. They are awesome little pistols if they fit your hands though. I qualified higher with my back-up G27 than I did with my issued G22 last time we went to the range.
Post by: sunobody on December 08, 2001, 02:19:18 PM
Where is it selling for $409? That is a great price for the Bay Area - I've been able to get a quote on a CZ 75 compact in nickel satin for $420, and the PCR generally goes for a little higher than the compact.
Post by: Carlos-czechpistols82792 on December 08, 2001, 07:22:47 PM
www.shooterstore.com/acb/...&CATID=634 (http://www.shooterstore.com/acb/showprod.cfm?&DID=111&ObjectGroup_ID=1848&CATID=634)
Post by: Carlos-czechpistols82792 on December 08, 2001, 07:26:55 PM
Post by: armoredman on December 08, 2001, 09:53:02 PM
No Glock fits me well; guess I'll just stick with the CZ.
Dave
Post by: RichardOldfield on December 11, 2001, 12:50:59 AM
When it comes to Glock Model 26/27 these little pistols are in a class by themselves. Yes, for me, they need a holster but for Stephen A. Camp he carries a Model 26 in his Dockers. My Model 27 will shoot with full sized Glocks and that isn't all bad. If you own a Model 27 you can, with minimum effort, have a 9mm, 357 Sig, and S&W 40.
Regards,
Richard
Post by: Unregistered(d) on March 04, 2002, 10:29:13 PM
Post by: ut83 on March 05, 2002, 06:56:34 AM
Regarding which is better as a CCW....its a matter of personal preference...thats it. I WILL not slam the glock....I can shoot them as well as anything else when I can use the sights...in practicing tactical point shooting with them..I shoot HIGH...
The grip angle I cant get used too...just me.
As far as Hi Caps being expensive...you are looking at a small fortune either way....Glock LEO Hi Cap mags go for over 100 $
each....but the market seems to be flooded with them, not the case for the compact mags...The compact hi caps with Wolff springs hold 15 rnds and are flush...BTW. I have 2.
Either way....shoot well
Post by: rkpagano on March 05, 2002, 10:58:16 PM
thanks
kevin
Post by: armoredman on March 06, 2002, 08:24:13 AM
Dave
Post by: Marko9x18 on March 06, 2002, 11:26:27 PM
Here's a picture comparison:
(http://www.gunboards.com/forums/Public/Uploads/Post-42-9630-XD_vsPCR.jpg)
Take care. Marko
Post by: Unregistered(d) on March 07, 2002, 10:40:35 PM
Thanks
Post by: weemsf on March 08, 2002, 03:53:20 PM
Now for the Glocks, I have owned three Glocks and am at present Glock-less. I sold my wife's 19 because she was not shooting it very much and I got into a three way deal with my brother-in-law to help him get a 45 Colt Officer's Model. My 23 never shot as well as the 19. LEO's who shot it found that it was not hitting at POA. Neither was it as accurate for them as the 19. The 21 is just a huge gun to carry. Great for duty weapon, but a real bear for CCW. That's my opinion.
Post by: Unregistered(d) on March 09, 2002, 06:06:50 PM
Would it be possible that I would just simply order a holster made for a g19 to be used for a cz75 compact?
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated specially from those who both have a g19 and a cz75 compact.
Post by: Unregistered(d) on March 11, 2002, 09:25:37 AM
Post by: armoredman on March 13, 2002, 08:04:05 AM
If you want one of the G19 holsters, hand check it first.
Dave
Post by: ut83 on March 13, 2002, 08:28:58 AM
Shoot well