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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CZ75, 75b, 75 SAO inc the Transitional => Topic started by: IamCaleb on August 27, 2012, 08:01:21 PM
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Here is my first CZ and I'm already hooked! Nothing fancy, stock for now. O0
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/dubtype1/Guns%20Knives%20and%20bikes/cz752-1.jpg)
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Way to go Caleb, enjoy! 8)
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Nice set-up Caleb
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I have one of those ken onions lol
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Very nice! Welcome to the forum. 8)
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You're in the right place Caleb, and welcome.
I have one of those ken onions lol
Me too, with spring assist. It's my all-time favorite pocket knife. 8)
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10 round mags...You must be in Kalifronia...at least it ain't got a bullet button on it yet
Enjoy...one of my CZ's hits the range tomorrow after I test another rifle out I just bought
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Thank you for the warm welcomes, everyone.
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I have one of those ken onions lol
This one is the Skyline, I love the little sucker. It goes everywhere in my pocket.
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10 round mags...You must be in Kalifronia...at least it ain't got a bullet button on it yet
Enjoy...one of my CZ's hits the range tomorrow after I test another rifle out I just bought
Nope, Florida. So, I will be picking up 19 rounders. These 10s came with the pistol, my buddy baught it when he lived in NY.
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Nice! You'll catch the fever and before you know it, you'll have nine CZ pistols. Don't ask me how I know...
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10 round mags...You must be in Kalifronia...at least it ain't got a bullet button on it yet
Enjoy...one of my CZ's hits the range tomorrow after I test another rifle out I just bought
Nope, Florida. So, I will be picking up 19 rounders. These 10s came with the pistol, my buddy baught it when he lived in NY.
Caleb:
Hang on to those 10 Rounders
They'll be like Gold in a few months
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Nice! You'll catch the fever and before you know it, you'll have nine CZ pistols. Don't ask me how I know...
Lol.......I hear ya.
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DenStinett:
I will, thanks. But what makes them so valuable?
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But what makes them so valuable?
Used 10 Round Magazines are highly sought after
There are several 10 Round max States
This makes them much harder to find
And as Gun politics change, they could be even more valuable
You can ask close to new Mag prices and get it
A new 10 Round Magazine is $39.00 and you can easily ask and get $35.00 shipped
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congrats on your new CZ!
i own 40B, PO6 and just picked up a like new 75B .40, all are sweet shooters, accurate and fun to shoot. i plan on adding a kadet kit sometime soon.
cheers
kevin
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Used 10 Round Magazines are highly sought after
There are several 10 Round max States
This makes them much harder to find
And as Gun politics change, they could be even more valuable
You can ask close to new Mag prices and get it
A new 10 Round Magazine is $39.00 and you can easily ask and get $35.00 shipped
Hmmm....I have two 10-round stainless magazines that came with my Ruger P95 9mm that I have never used. I wonder how much they are worth? O0
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But what makes them so valuable?
Used 10 Round Magazines are highly sought after
There are several 10 Round max States
This makes them much harder to find
And as Gun politics change, they could be even more valuable
You can ask close to new Mag prices and get it
A new 10 Round Magazine is $39.00 and you can easily ask and get $35.00 shipped
Nice, never looked at it that way. I think I will hold on to these for a while then. Thanks!
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congrats on your new CZ!
i own 40B, PO6 and just picked up a like new 75B .40, all are sweet shooters, accurate and fun to shoot. i plan on adding a kadet kit sometime soon.
cheers
kevin
Nice little collection Kevin. How do you like that PO6? Been eye ballin that one for about a year now.
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Used 10 Round Magazines are highly sought after
There are several 10 Round max States
This makes them much harder to find
And as Gun politics change, they could be even more valuable
You can ask close to new Mag prices and get it
A new 10 Round Magazine is $39.00 and you can easily ask and get $35.00 shipped
Hmmm....I have two 10-round stainless magazines that came with my Ruger P95 9mm that I have never used. I wonder how much they are worth? O0
$5.....Sold! Lol....
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Caleb,
funny thing is.. my PO6 was my first centerfire handgun! the local gun store actually sold it dirt cheap w/ two magazines (turns out one of the mags was for a 9mm and thus the reason it likely sold so cheap, once i figured that out, i couldn't stop shooting it! and created the desire/luv of CZ's and thus the reason the 'other two' came home.
my PO6 is drop dead accurate, gave it to my son (after he had owned a ruger SRC9 and RIA 45) he actually love the PO6 so much he used it to qualify for his CCW and routinely carried it, now it came back to me.
for home defense/self defense.. it rocks..basically will create one small apple size hole in a target with quick double taps at 5-7yds.. when I put my lasermax on it.. the thing drills snake eye's and long ragged holes at 15yds.
i love it. all of em are extremely accurate with minimal recoil for me.. like I said my son's Ruger SR9C has more felt recoil to me. My wife even shoots the .40 well with no compliant of recoil.
the other 'outsider' i own is a keltec PMR30.. wicked fun gun to shoot (part of the home defense system) wife really likes shooting that one.. but claims it is louder than the .40.
for what its worth.. i'd wouldn't hesitate recommending/buying.
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way to go on the new CZ just picked up a 75b a few weeks ago myself
Enjoy
Joe
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Caleb,
funny thing is.. my PO6 was my first centerfire handgun! the local gun store actually sold it dirt cheap w/ two magazines (turns out one of the mags was for a 9mm and thus the reason it likely sold so cheap, once i figured that out, i couldn't stop shooting it! and created the desire/luv of CZ's and thus the reason the 'other two' came home.
my PO6 is drop dead accurate, gave it to my son (after he had owned a ruger SRC9 and RIA 45) he actually love the PO6 so much he used it to qualify for his CCW and routinely carried it, now it came back to me.
for home defense/self defense.. it rocks..basically will create one small apple size hole in a target with quick double taps at 5-7yds.. when I put my lasermax on it.. the thing drills snake eye's and long ragged holes at 15yds.
i love it. all of em are extremely accurate with minimal recoil for me.. like I said my son's Ruger SR9C has more felt recoil to me. My wife even shoots the .40 well with no compliant of recoil.
the other 'outsider' i own is a keltec PMR30.. wicked fun gun to shoot (part of the home defense system) wife really likes shooting that one.. but claims it is louder than the .40.
for what its worth.. i'd wouldn't hesitate recommending/buying.
That's awesome Kevin. I actually cc the sr9c and love it, I can make a fist size hole at about 25-30ft.
I first saw the PO6 at our local gun show and it felt great in hand, but I thought it would be too heavy to CC. But ever since that day, I've been wanting one. It's on my long list of "must have" pistols and hopefully one day it will be in my safe. I have always liked the CZ line, but now I finally have one! I have plans for this thing, so keep an eye out for a build/upgrade thread (nothing too crazy, tho).
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way to go on the new CZ just picked up a 75b a few weeks ago myself
Enjoy
Joe
Thanks Joe.
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Caleb,
look forward to your 'upgrade posts'! currently planning on sending all 3 of mine to Cajun Gun Works for hammer/trigger upgrades.. the problem is which one first?? the reach reduction kit with the upgraded hammer will make these CZ's truly outstanding! plus they are just drop in parts, (get to keep the original parts).
check em out. should make a very good thing.. even BETTER! in fact, i am currently started saving for a CGW CZ97BE!
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Caleb,
look forward to your 'upgrade posts'! currently planning on sending all 3 of mine to Cajun Gun Works for hammer/trigger upgrades.. the problem is which one first?? the reach reduction kit with the upgraded hammer will make these CZ's truly outstanding! plus they are just drop in parts, (get to keep the original parts).
check em out. should make a very good thing.. even BETTER! in fact, i am currently started saving for a CGW CZ97BE!
Yep, I have my CGW parts list. But, I like to be able to say that "I did it". I got that from my father, LOL...... I'm not affraid to do anything that does not require some kind of machining (only because I don't have those kind of tools). I've read a lot of good things of CGW, tho.
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kudos to you, caleb.
i forgot, my other 'upgrades' include the thin AL grips from CZ.. fits hand even better. and maybe I should do my own stuff to (former tool/die maker 20+yrs.. just don't like springs that fly).
I am considering ordering a ghost ring rear sight from CGW as well.
cheers
kevin
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kudos to you, caleb.
i forgot, my other 'upgrades' include the thin AL grips from CZ.. fits hand even better. and maybe I should do my own stuff to (former tool/die maker 20+yrs.. just don't like springs that fly).
I am considering ordering a ghost ring rear sight from CGW as well.
cheers
kevin
The thin grips is on the list. I don't care too much for the alluminum part of that, but I can't seem to find thin grips any other way.
I just like to tinker, so I'll try to do it myself. If I mess it up, I learn (it's only money right). Obviously I am very into safety, so doing stupid/unsafe stuff to the pistol is out of the question.
Do you have any pics of your pistols? I would not mind taing a peep at them, sounds like you have some nice toys.
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caleb,
wish i could, but don't have the camera to do so, also my 40B is pretty ugly right now.. as I am/have reshaped the metal to fit my hand and thus have natural point/grip. plan to send to get gunkoted and make one color again! :), while I shy from 'spring' work, i don't mind doing metal re-work at all. (coming from a upland bird dog background with high quality SxS's that are fit to shoot instinctively where I point.. thus may yet do so on my cz75 and P06 with the beavertail which needs a slight tweak for improved fit, IMHO. but much less so than the 40B.
when i can, i will though. thanks for asking.
kevin
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caleb,
does yours have a upswept beavertail or the flat one? mine has the flat one.. and it is the only thing I don't like on mine.. soo, i took the file to it today (as I did to the 40B to enhance the fit/grip) it is really sweet now.. removed metal from under to make it look upswept and removed some from sides to enhance hitting safety/mag button.
like it even more than before. and thanks for the encouragement to do the springs/trigger job myself per CGW items.. I will also be purchasing a 'ghost ring' from CGW based on his recent PCR conversion.
cheers,
kevin
ps. let me know what holsters you go with. I am considering several at this time. but being the 'dutch' person I am, I am trying to find a system that fits all of my CZ's and the kel tech PMR30
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ps.
forgot to include.. the thin AL grips with the inner tube trick.. makes it really grippy/fit the hand well. have done it to all my cz's and PMR30 now. luv it.
cheers
kevin
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caleb,
wish i could, but don't have the camera to do so, also my 40B is pretty ugly right now.. as I am/have reshaped the metal to fit my hand and thus have natural point/grip. plan to send to get gunkoted and make one color again! :), while I shy from 'spring' work, i don't mind doing metal re-work at all. (coming from a upland bird dog background with high quality SxS's that are fit to shoot instinctively where I point.. thus may yet do so on my cz75 and P06 with the beavertail which needs a slight tweak for improved fit, IMHO. but much less so than the 40B.
when i can, i will though. thanks for asking.
kevin
OOh, SxS........Drool, i love the look of those shotguns! I have an Ithica M87 I recently baught off a freind for..........wait for it................................................$150! Beautiful shotgun, but haven't had the time to shoot it yet.
caleb,
does yours have a upswept beavertail or the flat one? mine has the flat one.. and it is the only thing I don't like on mine.. soo, i took the file to it today (as I did to the 40B to enhance the fit/grip) it is really sweet now.. removed metal from under to make it look upswept and removed some from sides to enhance hitting safety/mag button.
like it even more than before. and thanks for the encouragement to do the springs/trigger job myself per CGW items.. I will also be purchasing a 'ghost ring' from CGW based on his recent PCR conversion.
cheers,
kevin
ps. let me know what holsters you go with. I am considering several at this time. but being the 'dutch' person I am, I am trying to find a system that fits all of my CZ's and the kel tech PMR30
I have the flat version. I would love to see your metal work, so get a new camera! LOL.........
If you can take a file to your pistol like that, then you can easily replace "drop in" parts, I have faith.....do it. ( I'm not responsible if you mess up, tho. LOL).
As far as holsters.........i don't know yet. this will be a range/target/steel challenge pistol, so I won't be concerned about concealability. I really like the Fobus "paddle" holsters, they are around $25 and perform awesome. But, I will research them more after I mod up the pistol. I will let you know what I go with (if I remember, I suffer from CRS).
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forgot to include.. the thin AL grips with the inner tube trick.. makes it really grippy/fit the hand well. have done it to all my cz's and PMR30 now. luv it.
cheers
kevin
I have seen said trick on other pistols, cheap and easy. Thanks for the tip. Alltho, I feel strongly drawn to the VZ Grips made for these fine pistols.
PS: What is this "Ghost Ring" I keep reading about that seems to be the bees knees?
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Handgun2: PM sent
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caleb,
tried to respond to email... hope it 'went'.
however. re: the 'ghost sight" go to the PCR catagory on this website.. or web search PCR cajun gun works trigger/sight upgrades, if that doesn't get you excited.. i don't know what will!
enjoy,
kevin @ manitou kennels
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caleb,
tried to respond to email... hope it 'went'.
however. re: the 'ghost sight" go to the PCR catagory on this website.. or web search PCR cajun gun works trigger/sight upgrades, if that doesn't get you excited.. i don't know what will!
enjoy,
kevin @ manitou kennels
Hey Kevin, I did not recieve your response message. Try again if you'd like and I'll see if it goes through.
I'll try a search and see what the buzz is about, thanks.
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Ok, did some research. I thought "ghost ring" soinded familiar, as I have similar sites on two of my rifles. Looks very promising and I'm interested. Not sure I like the "look" of it, but I'm liking the site picture.
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Ok, did some research. I thought "ghost ring" soinded familiar, as I have similar sites on two of my rifles. Looks very promising and I'm interested. Not sure I like the "look" of it, but I'm liking the site picture.
One of my Customers / friend is looking into these Sights:
http://www.goshen-hexsite.com/index2.php
Different, and interesting too
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Ok, did some research. I thought "ghost ring" soinded familiar, as I have similar sites on two of my rifles. Looks very promising and I'm interested. Not sure I like the "look" of it, but I'm liking the site picture.
One of my Customers / friend is looking into these Sights:
http://www.goshen-hexsite.com/index2.php
Different, and interesting too
Saw those.....If I wanted something that ugly I would buy a Glock. Oops, was that my outside voice? Lol...
ide voice
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ha! good ones!
actually i spoke with Goshen mfg/Hexsite guy 2 days ago.. they only make em for the Glock pistol.. with LOTS of re-work they can be made to fit Cz's.
thus, I am going to work with CGW on the PCR 'similiar' ghost ring.. what do you think? the FO sight or go with a Mepro NS?
cheers
k
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ha! good ones!
actually i spoke with Goshen mfg/Hexsite guy 2 days ago.. they only make em for the Glock pistol.. with LOTS of re-work they can be made to fit Cz's.
thus, I am going to work with CGW on the PCR 'similiar' ghost ring.. what do you think? the FO sight or go with a Mepro NS?
cheers
k
Depends....SD or Range/target pistol?
SD- night sights
range- ghost ring
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actually,
see my PM, but suffice to say.. ghost rings.. GREAT for self defense (see the referenced info in PM), also the hexsight's are superior as well for self defense, many guys (military/police) are/have changed to hexsites for self defense work and protection work.
givem a call. almost makes me want a glock/2x4.
cheers
kevin
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I ordered some parts on Friday, just waiting patiently. OK, not so patiently....LOL.
I detail stripped the Beast so i can polish up the trigger parts as per a couple of how-to threads here and youtube. As usual when removing the trigger pin, it bent all to hell. So, I was going to order a replacement when all of a sudden......my cart was full of parts! Oh well, can't throw them back so I hit the order button.
Waiting on: Upgraded trigger pin, ultra-light DA kit, Lighter trigger return spring, and something else i can't remember (CRS syndrome).
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Sounds like you have your work cut-out for you
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Sounds like you have your work cut-out for you
Yes sir, but no biggie. O0
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Welcome to the club, have had my 85C 4 weeks now and it is addicting. Do yourself a favor and buy 1000 rounds and go to it.
Since I live in NJ, those 10 round mags will look great in my gun. You won't need yours once you get your 19 r mags.
I take donations. ;)
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Welcome to the club, have had my 85C 4 weeks now and it is addicting. Do yourself a favor and buy 1000 rounds and go to it.
Since I live in NJ, those 10 round mags will look great in my gun. You won't need yours once you get your 19 r mags.
I take donations. ;)
LOL,.....I take "cash" donations towards said mags. ;)
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UPDATE:
So I decided to tinker, I was bored last week so why not. Before I did a complete disassembly, I took a SA trigger pull reading (no need for a DA reading, sinse my gauge does not read that high). I was going to smooth the action using a couple of how-to threads on this site and youtube. Here is the reading of the SA pull before anything was done.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/dubtype1/SingleActionTriggerBefore.jpg)
So, on to the disassembly. Followed the step-by-steps and double checked everything to see how it operates. I found this to be fairly easy to accomplish. Here is how it looks all gutted out (I installed the grips loosely to set asside through the ordeal). Note: I did not remove the sights or extractor, it was not needed for this "upgrade".
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/dubtype1/Guns%20Knives%20and%20bikes/CZPROJECT4.jpg)
First things first, I pollished the barrel feed ramp. Followed by the barrel locking lugs and finally the rest of the barrel.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/dubtype1/Guns%20Knives%20and%20bikes/CZPROJECT28.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/dubtype1/Guns%20Knives%20and%20bikes/CZPROJECT31.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/dubtype1/Guns%20Knives%20and%20bikes/CZPROJECT25.jpg)
This pic is after assembly, 'cause I forgot to snap a pic before it was installed. You get the idea, tho.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/dubtype1/Guns%20Knives%20and%20bikes/CZPROJECT26.jpg)
Now I know it's not a mirror finish, but it works for me (plus, the cell pics do it no justice),
Stay tuned, there is more to come!
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Hey Caleb:
Looks like you've done a nice Throating of the Load Ramp and Chamber
But where's the Safety Pawl Spring ?
Just Kidding
Lotsa hard work there
Great job
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Hey Caleb:
Looks like you've done a nice Throating of the Load Ramp and Chamber
But where's the Safety Pawl Spring ?
Just Kidding
Lotsa hard work there
Great job
LOL, I had to send that special spring out for customization!
Thanks bro.
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UPDATE #2
Continuation of some pollishing to smooth out the trigger pull.
Today i went and pollished the safety plunger.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/dubtype1/Guns%20Knives%20and%20bikes/CZPROJECT6.jpg)
I also pollished the safety plunger lifter thingie <------technical term.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/dubtype1/Guns%20Knives%20and%20bikes/CZPROJECT14.jpg)
Now, it's HAMMER TIME! Note: i did not change any angles or surface areas/tooling marks while pollishing. I just made it shiny and smooth for less friction.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/dubtype1/Guns%20Knives%20and%20bikes/CZPROJECT8.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/dubtype1/Guns%20Knives%20and%20bikes/CZPROJECT10.jpg)
Next I worked on the sear...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/dubtype1/Guns%20Knives%20and%20bikes/CZPROJECT12.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/dubtype1/Guns%20Knives%20and%20bikes/CZPROJECT11.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/dubtype1/Guns%20Knives%20and%20bikes/CZPROJECT9.jpg)
Last but not least, the trigger bar... this needed a lot of work.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/dubtype1/Guns%20Knives%20and%20bikes/CZPROJECT5.jpg)
Tomorrow is another day, thanks for looking.
Caleb
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Thanks for this thread! Very interesting, informative, enjoyable and some great pictures. Have done some work inside mine so I could relate to parts shown and mods done, looks real good! I don't think I did a whole lot of polishing but can't really remember [speakin of advanced CRS!] but a good project for this winter no doubt. Keep up the excellent work, interested to see the final trigger pull weight!
BTW: most of the CZ Mec-Gar 10 round mags normally sell for about twice the price of much higher capacity magazines, even from sellers giving their best discounts.
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+1 to what Spirit said, great thread and pics. And I thought I was doing good putting in an extended firing pin, solid retaining pin, and reduced fpb spring! What do you use to polish but not take off material?
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Thanks for this thread! Very interesting, informative, enjoyable and some great pictures. Have done some work inside mine so I could relate to parts shown and mods done, looks real good! I don't think I did a whole lot of polishing but can't really remember [speakin of advanced CRS!] but a good project for this winter no doubt. Keep up the excellent work, interested to see the final trigger pull weight!
BTW: most of the CZ Mec-Gar 10 round mags normally sell for about twice the price of much higher capacity magazines, even from sellers giving their best discounts.
Oh well, then hold on to your briches(sp?)......there is more to come. I allready know what the outcome is, but I have to stretch it out....LOL.
I'm hitting up the local gun show this weekend to look for high cap mags. Then I might sell the 10 rounders, maybe.
Oh, and thanks for the kind words.
+1 to what Spirit said, great thread and pics. And I thought I was doing good putting in an extended firing pin, solid retaining pin, and reduced fpb spring! What do you use to polish but not take off material?
Thank you sir. I use 1200 wet/dry sandpaper using my hand (helps me not put too much pressure on the part) and Rem oil (no water, water causes rust remember).
Stay tuned and you will see what else i have going in this project.
BTW: You are doing well replacing those items. Are you installing a lower power hammer/main spring as well?
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MOVING ALONG....
I went with CGW DA Ultralite Spring Kit, Light Weight trigger Return Spring, and Upgraded Trigger Pin. The DA kit comes with two hammer/main springs, 11.5lb and 8lb. I chose to use the 11.5lb spring for better ignition on all primers. Also, the DA kit comes with a lightened FPB spring and an extended firing pin with spring.
Here are the CGW parts located to the right of the factory parts.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/dubtype1/Guns%20Knives%20and%20bikes/CZPROJECT3.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/dubtype1/Guns%20Knives%20and%20bikes/CZPROJECT1.jpg)
Here is the CGW light trigger return spring (on right). Also pictured is the CGW trigger pin with slave pin (this thing helps wonders getting everything lined up).
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/dubtype1/Guns%20Knives%20and%20bikes/CZPROJECT16.jpg)
CGW extended firing pin with light spring. Notice the oem pin seems to be pollished, I did not pollish the CGW pin. Maybe i should of? IDK?
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/dubtype1/Guns%20Knives%20and%20bikes/CZPROJECT7.jpg)
Time for re-assembly..
All the action has been installed....hammer, trigger, trigger bar, sear, disconnector, fpb, mag brake, and all new CGW lightened springs.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/dubtype1/Guns%20Knives%20and%20bikes/CZPROJECT13.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/dubtype1/Guns%20Knives%20and%20bikes/CZPROJECT15.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/dubtype1/Guns%20Knives%20and%20bikes/CZPROJECT18.jpg)
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Here is the new trigger pin installed
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/dubtype1/Guns%20Knives%20and%20bikes/CZPROJECT17.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/dubtype1/Guns%20Knives%20and%20bikes/CZPROJECT19.jpg)
Continued......
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More goodness......
Notice in this shot, the mag brake has been straightened out to allow drop free operation.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/dubtype1/Guns%20Knives%20and%20bikes/CZPROJECT22.jpg)
SHE IS DONE!!! For now, LOL.....
Sorry for the crappy pic (cell phone).
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/dubtype1/Guns%20Knives%20and%20bikes/CZPROJECT24.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/dubtype1/Guns%20Knives%20and%20bikes/CZPROJECT27.jpg)
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VERY NICE Caleb
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VERY NICE Caleb
Thank you sir, trigger pull weight pics either Sunday evening or Monday.
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Excellent!
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BTW: You are doing well replacing those items. Are you installing a lower power hammer/main spring as well?
Based on what I've read on this forum I'm tempted to but I don't think I fully understand benefit(s?) and nuances of it. My 75B is .40 S&W native/NIB. I've since bought a 9mm upper and a Kadet upper. So any changes I make to the lower/frame/receiver (not sure which is correct term) will have to work reliably with the other calibers too.
The reduced FPB spring in the .40SW upper made a considerable difference in its SA trigger pull. I believe the right path may be to do the same mod to the 9mm upper and make sure all is well with that. Then perhaps move onto the lower power main/hammer spring from CGW. Anything beyond that -- like what you've done -- is out of my comfort zone at least for the time being.
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BTW: You are doing well replacing those items. Are you installing a lower power hammer/main spring as well?
Based on what I've read on this forum I'm tempted to but I don't think I fully understand benefit(s?) and nuances of it. My 75B is .40 S&W native/NIB. I've since bought a 9mm upper and a Kadet upper. So any changes I make to the lower/frame/receiver (not sure which is correct term) will have to work reliably with the other calibers too.
The reduced FPB spring in the .40SW upper made a considerable difference in its SA trigger pull. I believe the right path may be to do the same mod to the 9mm upper and make sure all is well with that. Then perhaps move onto the lower power main/hammer spring from CGW. Anything beyond that -- like what you've done -- is out of my comfort zone at least for the time being.
The benefit is a lighter trigger pull. A downfall is light primer strikes. A good in between sacrifice is the 13# hammer spring, supposedly works well will all primers (I have never used this spring so i can't say for sure).
I can understand the hesitation because of your caliber swaps back and forth. If this is just a fun range pistol, then I would say not to worry about it too much (run what you brung). But, I think if you found that happy medium you will be exceptionally happy with your pistol.....just my $0.02
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TRIGGER PULL IMPROVEMENT
Ok, here is what you have been waiting for ( at least a couple of you, LOL).....
The original DA pull weight was off the chart of my scale, so no pic on that (way over 8lbs).
Here is the DA pull weight after these mods. 6.5#s
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/dubtype1/Guns%20Knives%20and%20bikes/CZPROJECT33.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/dubtype1/Guns%20Knives%20and%20bikes/CZPROJECT39.jpg)
The SA original pull was almost 6#s
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/dubtype1/Guns%20Knives%20and%20bikes/CZPROJECT32.jpg)
Here is the new SA pull weight.... 3.5#s !!!!!!!
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/dubtype1/Guns%20Knives%20and%20bikes/CZPROJECT35.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v710/dubtype1/Guns%20Knives%20and%20bikes/CZPROJECT36.jpg)
Initial impression:
The DA/SA "feel", feels nice and smooth with no noticable interuption/grittyness of the action. The DA is nice and consistant all the way through and the break "surprises" you. The SA is like butter, nice and smooth and so light but yet controllable. I am very happy with it while dry firing it (snap cap in place). My fiance' started to yell at me, the clicking got on her nerves! LOL, I just could not stop dry firing! Can't wait to get it to the range.
Caleb
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From 6.5 down to 3.5
That's GREAT
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From 6.5 down to 3.5
That's GREAT
I'm stoked!
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Really great thread. I have a 75B and plan on doing these exact mods, and also adding a SA trigger.
Very helpful and gives me more confidence! Cheers. -D
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Really great thread. I have a 75B and plan on doing these exact mods, and also adding a SA trigger.
Very helpful and gives me more confidence! Cheers. -D
Thanks, it will be well worth the time and effort.
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Caleb,
Apologize if I missed this, but...
How did your range sessions turn out after all of your polishing and installing the CGW kit? Am curious regarding your experience with the 11.5# main spring and ignition. You did a great job of slicking up the action and from your trigger pull measurements, the CGW parts did their part (pun intended) to help.
My 75B is purely for range work and was debating the 13# vs. 11.5# spring (along with other parts). I'll probably get both and test, but wanted to hear your experience. Thanks, and thanks for the detailed pics.
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Caleb,
Apologize if I missed this, but...
How did your range sessions turn out after all of your polishing and installing the CGW kit? Am curious regarding your experience with the 11.5# main spring and ignition. You did a great job of slicking up the action and from your trigger pull measurements, the CGW parts did their part (pun intended) to help.
My 75B is purely for range work and was debating the 13# vs. 11.5# spring (along with other parts). I'll probably get both and test, but wanted to hear your experience. Thanks, and thanks for the detailed pics.
Hey, I have been busy up to my eyeballs lately so have not had time to shoot it too much. I did get a chance last month to shoot 100 rounds through it and had two failure-to-fire (light primer strikes). I was shooting S&B 115g fmj.....personally, I do not care too much for this ammo. I also shot my M&P 9mm and it also had FTF with this ammo (this pistol has never had any issues to date). So, I am blaming the ammo for now till I am able to run some other brands through it. Personally, I don't think there will be any other light strike issues with other brands of ammo, but I won't know till I actually get some rounds down range.
On the hand, the trigger performed flawlessly. The smoothness was so badass, I did not even knoe I was shooting it in DA. I can't wait to add the comp hammer and some better sights, then this bad boy will be done for a while. I was going to convert it to SAO, but now I'm considering just leaving it DA/SA. We will see.
Caleb