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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => Curio and Relic CZs => Topic started by: gunfreak00 on July 27, 2006, 09:15:25 PM
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I am going to mill out dovetails in several CZ52's for new sights. I have a hard time seeing with the ones that are on there now. I was thinking of adjustable ones because of all the different ammo that is out there. Maybe Browning style meprolites? Anyone else try different sight in theirs?
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I'm really looking forward to an answer here. It's my number one complaint with all my 52's...crappy sights (and pretty old eyes!!)
Otto
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When I had my 52, I got these glow in the dark stickers. I don't remember which online store they were from, but they were originally for a watch company. It consisted of a few little circles (for the rear sight), and then some straight strips. You put some crazy glue (which even came with a bottle) on the back, attach them to the gun, and then let them dry. You could then go in with an exacto knife and do any trimming that you want (not necessary on the dots, but it made the strip flush with the front sight). Then, after it was trimmed, put more crazy glue on top to seal it. It was cheap, and actually worked really well.
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I actually have a phosphorus sight paint kit to make them glow in the dark and that is what is on them now and I even hogged out the rear sight notch to let more light in but they still suck. I think I am going to have it milled out for the dovetails and put a set of BO Mars that I have lying around in it. Or maybe some Meprolites. If I can get a few more people in on it maybe he will mill them a little cheaper or give some sort of discount.
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Here's a CZ 52 picture that I collected some time ago. I can't remember where it came from, but it shows a CZ 52 with a Novak low mount rear sight and a fiber optic front.
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h6/ottonsure/CZ52withNovaklowmountandfiberoptic.jpg)
Otto
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Thanks! That is exactly what I am wanting to do. I have several customers that are in the same boat as I am in. Now it is just seeing who will pay to have it done. Anyone know someone that will mill the slides for less than $55 a slide? I think a $70 upgrade (milling + a set of sights) isn't to much to spend on a gun I like to shoot and ammo is still cheaper than 9MM.
What does everyone think? If I did a few of the guns this way, do you think they would sell at gunshows?
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I don't know how they'd sell at a gunshow, but I'd pay that much (or more!!) to have it done to at least 2 of my 3 CZ 52's!!
Otto
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Makarov.com has or at least had Novack low profile's listed but IIRC, they were $70.00 for the pair.
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Yep there's the problem...the sights $70...installation $70...front sight who knows. You now have the cost of the pistol in the sights alone. The trigger still probably needs work and then fixin' up a slide release...it goes on and on.
The end result is an outstanding pistol that you'll never ever get your money out of.
Otto
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I guess I'm luckier than most as I don't see a need for adjustible sights on my shooter CZ52. And as far as visibility, the range master gave me a great idea. He suggested using your wife's pink nail polish. It's easy to outline the front and rear sights with the tiny brush and it's easy to remove if you want it back to original. You guessed it! Nail polish remover removes the pink without damaging the pistola. Btw, S&B is the only ammo is use and it shoots POA for me. Good luck and happy shooting.
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I like the nail polish idea. A few years ago I saw young ladies with fluorescent nail polish at a night club. I'll have to check the cosmetics section for that stuff.
Scott
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I like to shoot a lot! Having the option to shoot any ammo with the adjustable sights ( or even just better sights) is real appealing to me. The S&B ammo is great but can get expensive to shoot 1000's of rounds of and for us people who don't have the means or time to reload it can get expensive. The change of sights can pay for itself in being able to shoot any of the surplus ammo that comes along. By the way, who would want to sell their personal CZ anyway? They are just way to cool! I will pay extra to have something different and the coolest one at the range. My wife says it's a guy thing.
I am working on a deal now, If can get a few people to go along, I can get both dovetails milled by a top notch gunsmith for $45. Then I can buy any sights you want wholesale or find surplus sights to put in. I am looking to put a fiber optic up front (I like them on all .45's) and a low profile or adjustable in the rear.
I have an 01FFL and if anybody is interested let me know. I can also hand pick anything Aim sells if you need another CZ to have as a back up or their ammo.
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I have two CZ-52s that I plan to change the sights on, among other things. All my gun money has been spent buying guns as they are available, and I've set my CZ-52 project guns aside until I can afford accessories. It may be a month or two before I would have the funds available to spend on dovetail jobs for my CZ-52s, but it is something I eventually plan to do. Keep us posted!
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Not a problem. I am sending some off in 2 weeks and haggling the prices on sights now.
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Like above, I'd sure like to keep posted as well. If I could get some decent sights on my 52's I'd be one happy cowboy!!
Otto
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These sights will fit the gun like their made for it. (http://www.cdnninvestments.com/sigsa223dotg.html)
Just make sure NOT to remove the origional rear sight dovetail all the way, but rather cut a new dovetail in it as if the origional were not their. Also make sure to sight the gun in BEFORE installing the sights. Do this by superglueing a poster board tab to the rear sight and cut your adjustments in to it until the gun is sighted in and then install the new rear sight according to the sighted in specs.
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44 Cannon!! Long time no see!! How've you been?? I haven't seen a post from you in months and months.
Y'all need to click on 44 Cannon's link and see his modified CZ 52's etc. Just too cool for school!!!!
Otto
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My website says where i've been. Nice to see you guys again. I no longer have those picture accessable from the main site (I don't think) so here they are:
(http://www.paladinrepublic.com/gwcz3.JPG)
(http://www.paladinrepublic.com/gwcz2.JPG)
(http://www.paladinrepublic.com/gwczst.jpg)
(http://www.paladinrepublic.com/adcz-52.jpg)
(http://www.paladinrepublic.com/104_0487.JPG)
(http://www.paladinrepublic.com/Use%208%20CZ%2052%208.JPG)
(http://www.paladinrepublic.com/Use%205%20%20CZ%2052.jpg)
The 2 CZ-52s on the bottom have Trintium sights shown in the picture. The one with the trigger-guard mag release is my own CZ-52, although it's had MANY updates since the picture was taken.
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Gawrsh! I'm in lust!
Bill
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44 Canon I am in awe of your projects. Incredible, just incredible!
I'd love to see you sneak in a design using the 7.62 x 25 cartridge. The world needs an updated CZ 52!! (other than the Zastava M57 Lux!)
I still have the grips you made, they are the best!
Otto
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I already have a design that uses a modified CZ-52 upper. The upper modifications are just the sights mod I used on my CZ and a Beretta style safety system.
The lower section only shares a few parts with the lower section of the CZ-52 and uses Para Ordnance P-18 mags and a tac rail.
The design overall looks similar to the Vector CP-1 (http://www.angelfire.com/wv/hammer/gunpics2.html) but with the "bulldozer" style the LRB Magnum has as well as the same basic component based grip design.
Here is a sketch I just scanned of the design overall:
(http://www.paladinrepublic.com/cz-52mod1.jpg)
As for in color, it's the same style and color patterns as this:
(http://www.paladinrepublic.com/lrbmagnum-1.jpg)
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My gunsmith installed sights from a Colt 1911 Government Model onto my cz-52. I couldn't be more pleased.
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Aside from the Novak sights which are available for the CZ52, I've found that some stuff called SiteGlo works pretty well. I heard about it online, and saw some lofty claims on their website, then I found some viral marketing that the guy tried to do which was suspect, but ultimately I gave it a try. I found that putting a couple tiny dots of white nail-polish base-coat on the rear and front sights before applying the SiteGlo really helped it to stand out and look brighter as opposed to going straight on the dark frame. The glow lasted about 30 minutes top at it's initial brightest, and sort fades away completely in one hour. During daylight it has a phosphorescent yellow/green tinge. Will try to post photos when I get home....
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Here is the photo of my CZ52 with the Siteglo paint-on sights. The key to getting it to look good is to put little dots of bright-white nail polish on beforehand as a primer to make the Siteglo paint brighter. I also used tiny little stencil stickers that I made with perfectly round holes punched in it to make perfect circles. The color in the photo is after putting it under a bright light, and then taking the photo in an average lit room. I like the result. The front sight has a small vertical stripe also.
(http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/gg94/DKconfiguration/cz52sightssmall.jpg)