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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CZ75, 75b, 75 SAO inc the Transitional => Topic started by: Ara on November 24, 2012, 12:05:56 PM
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Hello all,
I recently shot a cz75b 9 mm and was absolutely intrigued by the firearm. The weight, feel, grip felt absolutely right for me
Now, I want one!!
I've been shopping around (local gun shops) and it seems like stores that actually have one available in stock, are selling it for drastically higher than retail (approx $100 -150 + more)
I've been told that the 75b model is hard to come by. Is that correct?
I've never purchased from an online outfit before, has anyone here ever purchased from an online retailer before? Any thought / suggestions is highly appreciated
Thank you
Ara
Ps : I came a across a store that has both 75 and a 75b model (brand new models)
Any recommendations on one vs. the other?
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Get the B model. It has a firing pin Block that keeps the gun from going bang if you drop it.
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Thanks for the tip.
I'm definitely getting the B model, assuming I can find one!!!
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Patience, Grasshopper. They are out there. You just need to keep checking your LGS if you don't order one online. They can be had online, but there are hoops that need to be jumped through..Not as bad as you might think.. Good luck with your endeavor.
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www.damascusgunshop.com has what you want.
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Welcome.
Hello all,
I recently shot a cz75b 9 mm and was absolutely intrigued by the firearm. The weight, feel, grip felt absolutely right for me
thats the consensus many times.
Now, I want one!!
I've been shopping around (local gun shops) and it seems like stores that actually have one available in stock, are selling it for drastically higher than retail (approx $100 -150 + more)
Depends on what country and place you live, prices will vary with location. it is what it is.
If you decide to buy one off the web, be aware the many FFL holders charge to receive a firearm. Then theres shipping too. so you may have to add that into the total unseen cost too.
I've been told that the 75b model is hard to come by. Is that correct?
no. the 75 ( no B) isnt made anymore, therefore harder to come by.
I've never purchased from an online outfit before, has anyone here ever purchased from an online retailer before? Any thought / suggestions is highly appreciated
Do your homework. Ask questions BEFORE you buy! if you look and use the search function there are post regarding questions to ask. IF you do your homework before you buy, you lessen your chances of having unhappy purchases.
Ps : I came a across a store that has both 75 and a 75b model (brand new models)
Any recommendations on one vs. the other?
when you ask for which one to get, you will always get the answer ......GET BOTH!
comment.
when it comes to guns, women or cars, they have a tendency to multiply!
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www.damascusgunshop.com has what you want.
This is true, great prices too but unfortunately they've been out of stock since last I checked a couple days ago.
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www.damascusgunshop.com has what you want.
This is true, great prices too but unfortunately they've been out of stock since last I checked a couple days ago.
I checked damascus earlier today and are still out.
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Damascus has the 75B .40 S&W. Same gun, different caliber.
http://www.damascusgunshop.com/shop/pistols/cz-75/cz-75-b-40-black-polycoat.html
Buds has a 75BD 9mm (decocker instead of manual safety)
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_82/products_id/80334/CZ-USA+CZ75BD+9mm+16RD+DCKR+LL+LCI
Buds also has a 75B 9mm Glossy Blue (manual safety, kinda rare, not made anymore, only black polycoat are made now)
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_82/products_id/411552615/CZ+75+9MM+GLOSS+BLUE+16RD
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There are 2 in stock for the CZ 75 B 9mm in Matte Stainless @ Damascus as of this posting.
http://www.damascusgunshop.com/shop/pistols/cz-75/cz-75-b-matte-stainless.html
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The 9mm at demascus is 16 rd.
I live in CA and unfortunately unable to purchase this item.
My search continues!!!!
Thanks all.
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The 9mm at demascus is 16 rd.
I live in CA and unfortunately unable to purchase this item.
My search continues!!!!
Thanks all.
True, the 9mm are normally 16 rounds but the .40 S&W is only 10 rounds. 8)
I bet if you call Damascus or Buds and tell them you are in CA they will swap the 16 round mags for 10 round mags. Or just accept the handgun with no mags and buy some 10 round mags separately. (Or just move out of that anti-gun commie state, but I digress)
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The 9mm at demascus is 16 rd.
I live in CA and unfortunately unable to purchase this item.
My search continues!!!!
The 10-rd, CA-legal mags can be purchased separately. I'd contact Bud's (or whoever has one) and ask them about a swap, or a price without the 16rd mags, and order the 10 round mags elsewhere--maybe even locally (they are pricey though). Sometimes you can find them on the forum classifieds.
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The 9mm at demascus is 16 rd.
I live in CA and unfortunately unable to purchase this item.
My search continues!!!!
Thanks all.
I live in New Jersey where we have a 15 round limit. I ordered a NIB CZ75 b in satin nickel from Damascus and they swapped out the 16 round mags for me with brand new 10 round mags. They even held the gun for almost a month until my permit came through. I will use them again without reservation.
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Thank you all for the great input.
I will call Damascus first thing tomorrow.
On a separate note, is the cz75b ammo sensitive. Does a certain type / brand of ammo work better with this model?
Thanks again
Ara
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The 9mm at demascus is 16 rd.
I live in CA and unfortunately unable to purchase this item.
My search continues!!!!
Thanks all.
Ara,
I recently purchased a CZ 75B SA 9mm from them. It is listed as a 16 round magazine but they will ship it out to CA with a 10-round magazine.
In my case, when I placed my order, they told me they were out of the 10-round mags (but more are on the way) and if I wanted they could ship it with rebuild kits. I instructed them to wait for the next batch of 10-round mags.
Only waited a few days or so and they shipped it with CA legal 10 round magazines.
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If the 9mm in question is the Matte Stainless, I just realized that particular model is not on the CA DOJ approved list.
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/26/vatudyqu.jpg)
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On a separate note, is the cz75b ammo sensitive. Does a certain type / brand of ammo work better with this model?
About the only ammo that does not work well is Remington UMC. Everything else should be OK.
Also, most people agree 124gr is best as far as accuracy but 115gr is fine for target practice / plinking.
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I recently purchased a CZ 75B 40S&W Bi-Tone from Damascus. Very smooth transaction. They don't charge shipping and I live in FL, so all I had to cover was the fee for my FFL to handle the transfer. If Damascus has what you want, they would be a good source to work with.
I recently sent my gun to David Milam, at Cajun Gun Works to have it converted to SA Only, new trigger, CGW sights, action work, etc. It now has a crisp 3lb 1oz trigger pull and the gun runs perfectly with anything I put in it, including the 170gr SWC that I load.
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Thank you all for the great input.
I will call Damascus first thing tomorrow.
On a separate note, is the cz75b ammo sensitive. Does a certain type / brand of ammo work better with this model?
Thanks again
Ara
I also recommend Damascus Gun Shop. I got my Kadet Kit through them.
My CZ 75b shoots everything including the cheapest steel case Russian ammo...............for which it was probably designed to shoot, since the gun is made in the Czech Republic. Only ammo I've ever had a problem with was Remington UMC, which would give me a stove pipe in 1 out of 50 rounds or so. I've heard many other gun owners with different models complain about Remington ammo either being dirty, or not performing properly, or underpowered.
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My CZ 75b shoots everything including the cheapest steel case Russian ammo...............for which it was probably designed to shoot, since the gun is made in the Czech Republic.
CZ factory ammo is brass-cased Sellier & Bellot which is made in the Czech Republic. http://www.sellier-bellot.cz
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I'm a California resident myself, Long Beach speficically, great weather, awesome surf, beautiful women, terrible gun laws. Managed to order up a 75 B in the .40 cal over the weekend, and they had another 15 in stock (Turners - Signal Hill). Sure they would ship to wherever you are if you were interested. They also had a P01 in their display but I'm sure that won't last too long. Can't wait to pick mine up on December 4th! Not that I'm counting or anything. 8)
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On a separate note, is the cz75b ammo sensitive. Does a certain type / brand of ammo work better with this model?
About the only ammo that does not work well is Remington UMC. Everything else should be OK.
I have been using Remington UMC for classes for the last couple of years without a single failure. What failures have you had ?
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I have been using Remington UMC for classes for the last couple of years without a single failure. What failures have you had ?
I haven't had any failures with UMC because I have never used it due to of all the complaints here about that brand of ammo.
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Ara,
Just noticed you are in Cali. If you are in NorCal, try Vallejo (TripleA). That's where I picked up my 75B SA. On pickup last week, they had a 75BD and I think another B SA in stock (as well as the fancier stuff like P07, maybe phantom), as well as a .40.
Yes, I had to pay more than MSRP. I was told you could usually haggle with them, but on the CZ, they would not budge.
Good luck
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Newbie here wanting to share my findings.
I went through a lengthy process trying different 9mm semis at my local range and it came down to the Sig 226 and CZ 75. Ultimately I decided the CZ was the gun for me and being in CA I had the same problem as Ara - no guns to be found locally and very few that I could find for sale out of state. Plenty of 40s in stock locally but I really want a 9 and I want the 75B only (not the BD, not the SP01, etc.)
So I found one out of state, made the purchase and just started the transfer process on a CZ75B. They kept the mags that were supposed to come with the gun and I purchased some 10 round mags off of gunbroker.
When I made the purchase I checked to make sure the 75B was on the CA approved list but I didn't take the time to get into enough detail! The gun I purchased is blue and noting the post above I see that this is not on the list! So I am thinking that my local FFL is not going to be able to complete the transfer and I'll have to negotiate the return of the gun to the shop that sold it to me. Then I'll be back to step 1 again.
From what I'm hearing nobody knows when more CZ75Bs are going to become available. Our various state and federal governments are really driving gun sales right now.
Can it really be true that CA cares whether the 75B is the black polycoat or blued steel? Are we that messed up in this state or is there more to the story that I am missing?
What do you experienced folks out there think?
Thank you!
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On a separate note, is the cz75b ammo sensitive. Does a certain type / brand of ammo work better with this model?
About the only ammo that does not work well is Remington UMC. Everything else should be OK.
I have been using Remington UMC for classes for the last couple of years without a single failure. What failures have you had ?
I have been running Remington UMC through my CZ Shadow and 75B with no issue's.
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Can it really be true that CA cares whether the 75B is the black polycoat or blued steel? Are we that messed up in this state or is there more to the story that I am missing?
My understanding is each type of firearm has it's own SKU number (model number) and that number is what CA uses to differentiate each firearm on their approved list. You're right, there is absolutely no difference between a Glossy Blue 75 B and a Black Polycoat 75 B except the coating on the metal...BUT...each firearm has a different SKU and therefore one is approved and one is not.
Here is the list of CA approved CZ pistols: http://certguns.doj.ca.gov
Model Gun Type Barrel Length Caliber Exp Date
40 B (Black) 01700 / Steel, Alloy Pistol 4.37" .40 S&W 5/1/2013
75 BD (Black) 01130 / Steel Pistol 4.687" 9mm 3/5/2013
75 Compact / Steel Pistol 3.9" .40 S&W 10/31/2013
75 SA (Black) 01151 / Steel Pistol 4.692" .40 S&W 5/13/2013
83 (Glossy Blue) 01301 / Steel Pistol 3.81" .380 6/10/2013
CZ 2075 RAMI / Steel, Alloy Pistol 3" 9mm 5/12/2013
CZ 2075 RAMI / Steel, Alloy Pistol 3.0" .40 S&W 7/13/2013
CZ 75 B (Black) 01102 / Steel Pistol 4.593" 9mm 12/31/2013
CZ 75 B SA (Black) 01150 / Steel Pistol 4.593" 9mm 12/31/2013
CZ 75 Compact (Black) 01190 / Steel Pistol 3.765" 9mm 12/31/2013
CZ 75 D (Black) 01194 / Alloy Pistol 3.763" 9mm 12/31/2013
CZ 75 P-01 01199 / Steel, Alloy Pistol 3.88" 9mm 2/26/2013
CZ 75 SP-01 01152 / Steel, Poly Pistol 4.7" 9mm 1/31/2013
CZ 75 Tactical 01100 / Steel Pistol 4.72" 9mm 5/9/2013
CZ 75 TS / Steel, Alloy, Poly Trigger Pistol 5.215" .40 S&W 1/31/2013
CZ 75 TS / Steel, Alloy, Poly Trigger Pistol 5.215" 9mm 1/31/2013
CZ 75B (Black) 01120 / Steel Pistol 4.58" .40 S&W 12/31/2013
CZ 97 B (Black) 01401 / Steel Pistol 4.658" .45 ACP 12/31/2012
*Model number in bold
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Since Blue was discontinued in 2008 (correct me if I'm wrong), is there any way to check if it was once approved, and does the expiration date make the pistol "no longer approved" in CA?
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Since Blue was discontinued in 2008 (correct me if I'm wrong), is there any way to check if it was once approved, and does the expiration date make the pistol "no longer approved" in CA?
Yes. Once they expire and are no longer on the CA DOJ list, you can no longer purchase it stock. You'll have to obtain it by means of a PPT or SSE.
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From my understanding is that the list is there for firearms deemed safe and approved for sale in CA. Manufacturers have to send that particular model of firearm to the CA DOJ to undergo safety testing.
If the particular model expires, the manufacturer must send that model again for testing. If it's not on the list, it doesn't necessarily mean that particular model is not safe. It just means that the manufacturer did not send one to the CA DOJ for testing.
HTH