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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CLUB CZ97 => Topic started by: 3Libbys on June 04, 2013, 10:57:08 PM
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Just recently picked up my first CZ after much research from reading on forums, (a 97BD with rubber grips). Had to have it shipped from NY to our FFL here in Connecticut. My first impressions of the gun is that it is nothing less than amazing as far as accuracy is concerned. Only have a fewe hundred rounds through it at this point, but everyone whom has fired it has been totally impressed. They actually fired better groups with my 97 than their own weapons. All Glock guys really.
Have had a couple of miror issues so far though and was wondering if anyone may have experienced any of these and if they are just something that may go away with more break in? Had several ftf's first time out with some 230 fmj rounds, and numerous ftf's with some federal 230 gr hydra shocks. I was under the impression that the feeding problems were a resolved issue at this point, is it possible it may resolve with some more rounds through it? My biggest concern though is that when loading a new magazine with the slide locked, if I push it in too hard the slide releases on it's own and chambers the first round of the new magazine (happens with both mags), anyone experience this? Seems a little unsafe.
The gun also lacks in the machining and finish areas also, has about a 1/4" round blemish in the finish just behind the trigger and alot of shap edges with burrs that like to pull fibers off the cleaning patches which makes cleaning a minor pain(is this common with CZ's)?
Absolutely love how the gun feels and shoots. But am concerned if these are common issues with CZ's, as i was already eyeing a couple of their other handguns.
Thanks for any input you folks may have, especially about the feeding and slide releasing on it's own.
Think I may have taken a bite from the CZ bug.
The gun also seems
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Depending what part of CT you are in, we could compare my 97BD to yours. At least we could find if it is your magazines that are causing the slide to release. Are you anywhere near Wooster Mt (Danbury) ?
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Thanks Rodolfo, might take you up on that offer at some point. I am over in litchfield.
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Congrats on the new pistol!! I hope your FTF issues are break-in related and will soon be resolved (I understood that the feed ramp had been re-designed several years ago and that hollow points were now expected to feed more reliably??).
I've had a 97BD on order for 7 months, and my Master Gunsmith hasn't given me much hope that it will show up anytime soon. He states that "Things are trickling in, but it seems like the niche guns have been pushed back and CZ-UB is making the big sellers only at this point".
Do you mind if I ask where did you find your BD??
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I hear your pain, I live in Connecticut and was unable to find either version here. Every dealer told me they had none in stock and no idea how long before they might see one, even if I ordered it. I went on the dealer locator on cz usa and just started calling the closest ones. I got lucky and found the BD version I was hoping for just over an hour away at Classic Rifle and ammo in Hopewell Junction, NY. Made the drive and had it shipped to my local FFL.
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Pick-up a used 97b 2weeks ago. I believe it"s from 1998. Fine shooter.I was at the range again the other day & also found that when I slammed the magazine in the slide slid forward & chamber a round. Don't see this as a problem But thought it was strange. Any thoughts?
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While cleaning my pistol I noticed a little nick on the slide lock.This might be why the slide releases when I slam in a magazine.
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Check to see if the nose of the round is bumping the slide lock. I've had other CZs that this was the case, where several different FMJs would just bump the slide lock enough to release the slide. A little time with the dremel solved that (assuming you don't like it doing that).
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Look at the date the gun was produced on the slide, It will be the 2 digit number, 08, 10, 12, ect.... I think the 2012 models have the new barrel with improved feedramp.
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I've had a few issues with FTF's but my gun is also new, about 500 rds through it.
I reload and noticed that 230 and 200 gr. require a shorter than usual OAL.
I also use 185 and 200 Gr. semi wadcutter without any problems except for the same FTF's occasionally.
The slide has never closed when inserting a full magazine though.
Hope you find the problem because it's a great gun.
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I took my brand new 97b, with all the improvements, out to shoot the other day and also noticed that a loaded magazine was not easy to lock in and when tapped in with my free hand the slide would also release on it's own and chamber a round, kind of unexpected to say the least. Only way it didn't happen is if I slowly forced it in, takes more effort than what it should. Gun shot like a laser though, no failures and love the fiber optic front sight. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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I took my brand new 97b, with all the improvements, out to shoot the other day and also noticed that a loaded magazine was not easy to lock in and when tapped in with my free hand the slide would also release on it's own and chamber a round, kind of unexpected to say the least. Only way it didn't happen is if I slowly forced it in, takes more effort than what it should. Gun shot like a laser though, no failures and love the fiber optic front sight. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Lock the slide back and look down from the top as you put a loaded mag in, you might have the top round bumping the slide release.
Have you tried differently shaped ammo?
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Magazines can be an issue for the 97's.
If you get 5 mags then one of them may be bad and need to be tossed.
Keep track of which mag's cause the malfunctions.
The accuracy of the CZ's come from their barrel bushings. It's great !!!
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BGlas, only used the target ammo I bought at the range. Will try some other type soon. Thanks!!!
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Just picked up 2 mags & 3 mag springs. Will be trying them to see if there is any difference when it comes back from CGW. Maybe 2 loooooong weeks.
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Well I loaded up a mag and watched it as it went in. It's the bottom of the bullet that is hitting the area right below the ejector, if you ease the bullet forward in the mag just a hair then install, goes in nice and easy.
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I've had a few issues with FTF's but my gun is also new, about 500 rds through it.
I reload and noticed that 230 and 200 gr. require a shorter than usual OAL.
I also use 185 and 200 Gr. semi wadcutter without any problems except for the same FTF's occasionally.
The slide has never closed when inserting a full magazine though.
Hope you find the problem because it's a great gun.
What type of FTF were/are you getting?
What OAL are your 200 and 230 gr reloads?
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I' don't remember what the OAL length was but it was short enough to cause feeding problems in one of my 1911's. Armscor Target model that is very tight in all respects. My S&W 1911 feeds all types of ammo without any problems whatsoever no matter what length or bullet style.
I'll look up the information in my log book and let you know.
I got the information about shorter than suggested OAL by someone on this forum and tried it, it worked so i used it until I tried to fire them in my 1911 where they all jammed when closing the slide.
The FTF's I've had with the 97 were all feed problems. For some reason after cleaning them all, and they were not very dirty, about 25 rounds through them, the 97 took all sizes and shapes at standard OAL without a hick-up.
Like I stated earlier, although I've owned the 97 fro 3 years I don't have much time to shoot (busy paying taxes) the gun has about 500 rounds through it.
I think that in new condition the guns are much more sensitive to smaller amounts of residual powder and other dirt that gets into them.