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GENERAL => Tactics and Competition => Topic started by: Riptide439 on July 31, 2013, 09:19:00 PM
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Going to my first USPSA match this Saturday.
1SOW said if you like IDPA you will REALLY like USPSA. So out of respect for 1SOW, I am sacrificing my Saturday to accommodate his suggestion. It's all his fault! :o
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Are you going to the Lower Providence match?
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Are you going to the Lower Providence match?
Sure am. Are you going?
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My first will be Sunday. Have 860 rounds loaded for the next 2 weeks. Good luck, Rip!!! What division?
Czech's in the mail
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My first will be Sunday. Have 860 rounds loaded for the next 2 weeks. Good luck, Rip!!! What division?
Czech's in the mail
Funny timing! Good luck murph. I know you will totally outperform me.
As for division - no clue, you tell me. Going to use my 75B.
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No I'm not shooting this one. I shot Sudlersville, md this past Saturday and Southern Chester, PA the week before.
as long as your 75B is not single action and you don't have any external mods other then grips, I would shot production
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My first will be Sunday. Have 860 rounds loaded for the next 2 weeks. Good luck, Rip!!! What division?
Czech's in the mail
Funny timing! Good luck murph. I know you will totally outperform me.
As for division - no clue, you tell me. Going to use my 75B.
Mag holders would dictate more than the gun...how many do you have?
Czech's in the mail
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3 double holders with 5 mags.
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3 double holders with 5 mags.
2 doubles on the belt, one in the gun...Production for sure ;D
Czech's in the mail
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I've got a few loose 16 rounders if you want...I've been enjoying the pay it forward, so PM me your addy and I'll send em your way. Only stipulation...gotta keep on with the Practical!!!
Czech's in the mail
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3 double holders with 5 mags.
2 doubles on the belt, one in the gun...Production for sure ;D
Czech's in the mail
Production it is!
Thanks guys.
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By the way, what is average round count?
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Production is allowed 10 rounds per mag. most of the matches are about 20-35 rounds per stage and 5-6 stages, so on ave. about 125-135 rounds but I always take about 200. some places like to use a lot of steel and you shoot at them until you hit them and knock them down, so it may take 2-5 more shots per stage. plus each paper target takes 2 shots but if you get a bad hit you can shoot it a 3rd time.
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like to use a lot of steel and you shoot at them until you hit them and knock them down, so it may take 2-5 more shots per stage. plus each paper target takes 2 shots but if you get a bad hit you can shoot it a 3rd time.
GUILTY , as charged! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D 8)
Read each posted stage description carefully---think outside the box (example: "all shots inside the shooting area", DOESN'T mean all "Movement has to be inside the shooting area), ask questions.
"Comstock" means unlimited number of shots
"Limited" means a 24 rd stage can be shot at with ONLY 24 SHOTS --stresses accuracy
Have a good time, and stay safe
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Thanks 1SOW.
Really looking forward to the match. :D
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It's very fun and addicting. Wish I started Shooting USPSA sooner then I did.
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Well I am sitting having a wonderful Single Batch of JD and reflecting on an absolute great time at my first USPSA Match.
Some cool stages and some tough ones. The hardest was a set of 4 targets which you have 3 seconds to draw and put 2 shots in each. 4 boxes at 4 distances. 1st box was 20 yards - second box 15 yards - third box 10 yards - forth box 5 yards. I was pleased that I only had 4 mikes out of all 4 sets of 4.
I had someone take 1 video for me all day - happened to be my most accurate. :D
3 Steel & 14 Targets. I had 27 Alpha's and 1 Charlie. My problem was mag changes - v e r y s l o w - as you can see. Need practice on that.
Had a great day!
http://s1353.photobucket.com/user/riptide439/media/20130803_122807_zps4abfe746.mp4.html (http://s1353.photobucket.com/user/riptide439/media/20130803_122807_zps4abfe746.mp4.html)
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Be careful. The addiction only gets worse
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Steel & 14 Targets. I had 27 Alpha's and 1 Charlie. My problem was mag changes
WOW in your first USPSA match! Way to go.
Did you like the USPSA shooting format? Every match can be very different from the last.
Mag changes are fixable at home in the living room or...... Just be sure to research and see the "best" way to do them and then practice, practice, practice.
Production class = mag changes. Almost as bad as single stack/revolver. I had a 38 rd stage today with 4 mag changes. I ran dry on the last shot! .
Glad you had fun.
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I did like the format very much. I loved the way the stages were very different. The 3 second staged freaked me out before I shot the 1st leg in 3.15. That made me feel much much comfortable.
The next match is a sectional match. Should I sign up for that match?
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Going to my first USPSA match this Saturday.
1SOW said if you like IDPA you will REALLY like USPSA. So out of respect for 1SOW, I am sacrificing my Saturday to accommodate his suggestion. It's all his fault! :o
Where you goin for the competition? We might bump into each other when I get into competitions (I'm in Pittsburgh)
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I am the opposite end of Pa. Unfortunately
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You can go to Southern Chester County Sportsmen's and Farmer's Association uspsa match 8/17/2013
http://www.formstack.com/forms/SCCPSA-Info
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You can go to Southern Chester County Sportsmen's and Farmer's Association uspsa match 8/17/2013
http://www.formstack.com/forms/SCCPSA-Info
You would tempt me wouldn't you >:( ;)
You know I may be talked into going if you are persuasive.! ;)
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I am the opposite end of Pa. Unfortunately
Yeah I checked, 5hrs. Yikes.
Watched the video. Nice job, good consistency, steady to minimize mistakes so I'm bettin you did good especially for your first match.
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I am the opposite end of Pa. Unfortunately
Yeah I checked, 5hrs. Yikes.
Watched the video. Nice job, good consistency, steady to minimize mistakes so I'm bettin you did good especially for your first match.
We started in the rain so I was a bit worried it would be slippery. Of coarse, like my 2nd IDPA Match, I started off the day 1st to go. I could have said something but I figured it was the best way to get rid of the butterflies. Started in the rain with gun and hands on table. Wet - Wet - Wet. Needed to concentrate so i Didn't have a chance to get nervios.
Good way to start my 1st USPSA.
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Keep at it and you'll only get better.
I'm lookin for somewhere remote near pittsburgh to practice run-and-gun like Nutnfancy does. Just somewhere in the sticks.
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Riptide:
Should I sign up for that match?
Is this it? 9/06/13, MID Atlantic Sectional Match, Audubon Pennsylvania (Near Valley Forge)
It's a major match. Means more shooters from all over the area. $80 entry fee, and the match runs the 6th thru 8th. Check online for more info about the match. http://www.uspsa.org/uspsa-match-details.php?indx=853
If the cost is ok for you, you'll like it. They'll chrono your rds---should be listed as a "stage" online.
Don't let all that scare you off. You aren't likely to win (sounds like you're in the game thpough), but you will learn and see a lot.
I've never been to a major match, so I'm not the guy to ask. ;D There's 4 here in TX/yr, and I hope to go to the Doubletap Championship in North TX next June just for the experience.
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Yup thats the one.
Is there anything different or just more regulated?
It says 9 stages total.
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Usually, as I mentioned above plus more shooters---sometimes a lot more shooters. It shows running for more than one day. Check the website and it'll explain the sign-up requirements and how the shoot will be run.
Good opportunity if it's near you. If not, then motel etc. etc. If it's not close, local shooters may share rides/expenses getting to the match. Ask around.
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Usually, as I mentioned above plus more shooters---sometimes a lot more shooters. It shows running for more than one day. Check the website and it'll explain the sign-up requirements and how the shoot will be run.
Good opportunity if it's near you. If not, then motel etc. etc. If it's not close, local shooters may share rides/expenses getting to the match. Ask around.
Sounds interesting. Theres some USPSA near me and maybe they'd share expensives to an IDPA farther away
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So I am trying to understand USPSA Scoring.
What is the relationship between Points, hit factor, and stage point?
I ended up 15 of 19 in production and I had the top points in 3 of 5 stages. How do points and time relate?
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points/time you need to have good hits (A's) but you cant be too slow. So up your speed a little & try for 90% A's
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"You shot too carefully". ???
Hit factor is points divided by time. Shooting all "A"s slowly usually gives a lower hit factor than hitting "As and Bs" much faster.
Time can be less important or MORE important in your standing depending on the stage. Some stages are blazing fast and some are complicated by no-shoots, swingers, drop turners or even loooong distance targets with no-shoots all over the target. Blazing fast may not make up for misses or hitting no-shoots, etc. etc.
"You can't shoot fast enough to make up for all those misses". BUT shooting blazing fast with no penalties and B's, Cs or even some D,s can beat a slow all A score.
Substitute your "POINTS" score and divide by your total time.
Then change your points to a little lower number but also lower your time by .3 or .4 seconds per shot and see the difference.
Hope this makes sense.
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So a analyzed my video an I think I could reduce my time by at least 4 to 5 seconds by not stopping to shoot and reloading properly. Does that sound about right?
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Yes that would be right. Reload while transitioning from one target to the next while walking will save lots of time. Also reloading before the magazine runs dry will help as well. I've dropped mags that still had 3-4 rounds left and insert a fresh mag that was full with 10 rounds. When standing still and reloading will drop you in the ranking fast. Like a cat (more then one way to skin it) there is always more then one way to shoot the stage. Plan your reload precisely
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Got it. Thanks
Will give it a go ina few weeks
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So a analyzed my video an I think I could reduce my time by at least 4 to 5 seconds by not stopping to shoot and reloading properly. Does that sound about right?
Practice, practice, practice.
Try just reloading while standing/crouching outside and such and work on speed and precision.
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I think if I walk, chew gum, and change mags it may help. ;D
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I think if I walk, chew gum, and change mags it may help. ;D
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Hire some Nazis to shoot at you. run for cover and practice reloading. Train under stress!
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Like BigHeat said, Read the stage description as soon as you get there. Plan how you're going to run it and "where" to change mags while you moving to the next shooting position. Don't run dry while shooting in one position if it can be prevented. This is why Production and Limited 10 needs so many mags. On some evil stages, 6 are needed. Having a "spare" mag in case one has to be dropped due to a malfunction or brain flatulation or unexpected misses is a good idea. Murphy pops up when you least expect it.
OR not. ;D