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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CZ CLONE CLUB => Topic started by: Bob928 on January 02, 2014, 12:45:51 AM
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Just spotted a seller on gunbroker.com making and selling grips made out of a resin compound. I bet if someone sent them a set of grips she could make a mold and make an endless supply of them. For instance; no one is currently making aftermarket grips for the K2-45 and some other Sarsilmaz pistols.
The thing I like was the prices starting at $15 a set. They have them for all sorts of guns so if someone just wanted to change up the look a bit; they could without hitting the wallet too hard.
http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?IncludeSellers=1324673
It might even be possible to sand them down to make them thinner. They do have full size CZ and Tanfoglio grips in various colors.
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I was looking at those a couple weeks ago and forgot all about them. I want some for my Ruger Mark II and if I like them a couple more guns. They look great but are probably to good to be true.
I'd put them on my Witness Limited as soon as I find out what will fit.
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just sent a note about sending them my K2 grips. Will post reply when I get it.
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"I do not have smooth grips for the CZ75 only the checkered. I can make a mold from your K2 grips and make those for you. Is your K2 new or used? My process will capture any imperfections in the grips."
so far. Asked about smooth for 75 and about K2 in general. Volunteered to send him a couple.
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"I do not have smooth grips for the CZ75 only the checkered. I can make a mold from your K2 grips and make those for you. Is your K2 new or used? My process will capture any imperfections in the grips."
so far. Asked about smooth for 75 and about K2 in general. Volunteered to send him a couple.
Excellent! I bet someone handy with a common 1" belt sander could do wonders with one of these and put some skate board adhesive sand tape to make it feel just right. I'm partial to rubber grips but am ok with the sand tape.
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One of the members on the all tanfoglio and witness forum sent him some witness grips so now he has them for the tanfoglio in large and small frame. There's a thread about it on that forum called witness grips.
I got some of the large frame ones for some of my large frame witnesses. They were basically made from the older style large frame rubber grips. The resin was real easy to sand and polish with some polishing cloths that I got from amazon. Here's a video I made about it. They came out pretty good, especially the faux wood ones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f9Oe2eVjA4&list=PLrk9ZANetsC9AdsZbvGliYNyuMlHf8aqz&feature=c4-overview-vl (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2f9Oe2eVjA4&list=PLrk9ZANetsC9AdsZbvGliYNyuMlHf8aqz&feature=c4-overview-vl)
In the below video there are also some views of another set in white that I sanded and polished.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdgxXHf4CcM&list=PLrk9ZANetsC9AdsZbvGliYNyuMlHf8aqz&feature=c4-overview-vl (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdgxXHf4CcM&list=PLrk9ZANetsC9AdsZbvGliYNyuMlHf8aqz&feature=c4-overview-vl)
Anyway, Dave was real easy to work with and I ordered 2 of the sets I got just through emailing with him instead of through gunbroker.
Here's a link to his website: http://www.tillandergungrips.com/index.html (http://www.tillandergungrips.com/index.html)
Darin.
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K2 grips are up on GB now:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=394167768 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=394167768)
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=394167512 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=394167512)
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K2 grips are up on GB now:
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=394167768 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=394167768)
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=394167512 (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=394167512)
Wow, he got them up quick. Those grips were made from molds of my k245 grips. I sent them to him last week to make me some replacements, just in case I needed them. My grips and the ones he made me should be at my door soon, if not waiting on me when I get home tomorrow.
I was going to post about them when I got them in. David is great to work with and the grips are very good for what u pay.
Darin.
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I've been talking to him for the past week about these, and he's been quick to reply to my questions. He appears to be rather flexible color on as well. Since I'm not a fan of either of the colors on GB, I will be dealing with him direct.
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take a look at some of his faux wood colors. They look pretty good.
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Yeah he can do u pretty much any color u like. His faux wood looks pretty good. Here's some large frame witness grips I had him make. U can tell they were molded from the older model textured rubber grips. I sanded and polished them to make them look like the one on the right.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/87785121/witness%20wood%20grips1.jpg)
Darin.
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I wonder if giving the grips a few light coats of Plasti-dip would give them a more grippy feel yet smooth them out a bit. Nice thing about Plasti-dip is it can be peeled off if not liked for any reason. Can get it all kinds of colors too including clear if you like the base color of the grip itself.
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I ordered some grips for my CZ85 from https://coppergungrips.com/. I asked him if he could make some for a K2 45. I will let you all know what I find out. They are a little more expensive than this, but they are supposed to be like a stippled grip.
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Okay guys, I got my grips back from David. They all turned out pretty good. Especially the SAR K2-45 grips. And remember he can do pretty much any color you'd like. See the pics below.
These are the copies of the Ebay cz75 grips on a Tristar p120
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/87785121/p120grips1.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/87785121/p120grips2.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/87785121/p120grips3.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/87785121/p120grips4.jpg)
these are the SAR K245 grips, just love the white ones
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/87785121/k245grips1.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/87785121/k245grips2.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/87785121/k245grips3.jpg)
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/87785121/k245grips4.jpg)
What do you all think?
Darin.
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I ordered some grips for my CZ85 from https://coppergungrips.com/. I asked him if he could make some for a K2 45. I will let you all know what I find out. They are a little more expensive than this, but they are supposed to be like a stippled grip.
My grips came in today. Great fit. Seem to be just a touch slimmer than stock. But much fatter than the grips on my son's Shadow Target. Surface it like a high quality, but only moderately agressive stippling job. Makes it feel like the gun is almost bonded to your hand, without being painful.
He says he's planning on making some for SAR K2 45. If he makes them, I will get 2 sets. One black or grey for when I want to be tacticool and one in pink or similar color to stand out at a match.
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Darin, those Grips look great! 8)
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The grips turned out very nice. What a great way to spice up an all black gun for not a lot of money. Do you figure they were around $20 or so each set? What color is that last set called?
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The grips turned out very nice. What a great way to spice up an all black gun for not a lot of money. Do you figure they were around $20 or so each set? What color is that last set called?
He typically charges 18 dollars a set, however he gave me a discount because I provided him with the grips to make the molds from.
I agree, very inexpensive way to dress up a gun on the cheap. The last set are a pearl white, they have just a touch of a pearlesence sparkle to them. I really like the faux wood ones on the k2 as well, he can do just about any color u can think of.
Darin.
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Really like the faux wood. I will be dropping an email to this gentleman. Thanks for posting this.
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I have 2 sets of the Sar K2 grips coming from him now, Very reasonable on the price -now we will see how they hold up to a beating , the originals are cheap and crack easily I am hoping these will solve that issue.
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Ordered mine on Monday and Tuesday both sets fit fine and for 18.00 each can't go wrong . I got a dark grey set and a wood like set.
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Mine should be coming in tomorrow; got one set in black and one in marbled dark red. I was going to request faux wood (wattle or something like the SR1911), but wasn't sure that he would be able pull it off. After seeing your's, Darin, I think that I should have had more confidence.
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I have 2 sets of the Sar K2 grips coming from him now, Very reasonable on the price -now we will see how they hold up to a beating , the originals are cheap and crack easily I am hoping these will solve that issue.
I think they'll hold up very well. I've gotten other grips from David before and although I don't know exactly what they're made of (other than their a cast resin), they don't have the cheap brittle plastic feel of the stock SAR grips. I don't think they'll crack easy. I did some sanding and smoothing on some witness grips I got from him and I really gave em what for at times and had no issues, they held up well.
Darin.
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Well, finally got to my first range trip after installing these. The grips came loose while shooting, but not enough to be a distraction. However, while cleaning last night I noticed that the right-side grip had cracked by the screw.
(http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/MetalGravy/Sar%20K2/Tillander%20Gun%20Grips/20140330_1529551_zpse7ce8f48.jpg)
I didn't tighten them that tightly, so I don't know why they broke down there.
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Got my grips from him, and they work great. Also got a free set from Taskarms in Florida that will be for backup (thinking about getting another K2 someday). It still blows my mind how Sar can cheap out on the grips so bad. Other than the front sight having a roll pin thru the top (don't know how to remove it), the grips are my only gripe. I love this gun.
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Those aren't the SAR grips--they are the ones from Tillander Gun Grips..
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Metalgravy, that sucks. You may want to email him and see if he'll send you a replacement panel. I was afraid these grips may be too thin even for the stuff he uses. He said he makes a lot of very thin grips for other guns with no issues. I've not had any issues with mine yet, but then I haven't shot them much since I got them.
Darin.
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Message sent. I guess the search continues for replacements :(. Oddly enough, I could swear that these felt denser than the SAR grips, but I guess they still aren't strong enough. Is there anything that I can do to reinforce these?
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Ouch. Didn't realize that Metalgravy. Honestly, I only put 200 rounds thru mine, and that is no super test. If those crack also, I may try to carve some out of wood. Seems like the Sar would be a good candidate for aluminum, but there should be some kind of epoxy that wont crack. My first set, I tried supergluing back together, but it was still to brittle. Electrical tape held it together until I got the new grips.
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Well, he's sending a replacement, so that's good.
After my first set broke, I glued them back together and then put aluminum tape on the back to, I don't know, reinforce it or something. They didn't break again after that. After installing these, I applied some Liquid Tape to the back of the old ones. I don't know if that will provide any sort of padding or reinforcement, but I doubt that it will hurt.
I might just go back to my previous idea of trying to make my own primitive-ass grips out of kydex or ABS. I don't know if either would be able to handle the stress, but it probably couldn't hurt to try--unless the grips shatter and embed shards in my hands...that might hurt a little. :o
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Hey K2 fans, my grips cracked too and I called EAA for replacements. What I got was Turkish grips without the logos. Dave is sending me a set of grips then I will send him mine. I'm dying to see what a set of wood grain grips will look like WITHOUT the logos!