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CZ LONG ARMS => VZ-58 semi auto rifle => Topic started by: DanielBoone on October 23, 2014, 06:29:37 PM
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I wanted a wood stock for my VZ58 and was really close to pulling the trigger on a surplus set from a fellow forum member (who is excellent to deal with - didn't want to advertise name without permission). I found a "reproduction" set in the US but it needed hardware and additional finishing so I passed on it. I liked the idea of surplus wood stocks but then matching, fitting, etc could be an issue - not to mention source, though I do know a member here with great ones available. I quite randomly found the seller "mikemanassas" on ebay. This seller makes a curly cherry set with a tung oil treatment that looks AMAZING! I haven't seen many references to him but if you are looking for an easy to install set I highly recommend this one. All hardware is included with the stock set. I had it on in about 5 minutes... Since a lot of my CSA rifle is new anyway I figured getting a new production wood set didn't matter too much. It handles excellent. The wood is actually thicker than original wood stocks to mitigate the cracking problem the originals had when they would heat up. So if you debating whether to buy this one, don't! It is an excellent, excellent buy IMHO. The fact it's all US made helps also... Here are a few pictures:
(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah223/DBoone17/1_zps62528dea.jpg?t=1414102628)
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(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah223/DBoone17/2_zpsf1756453.jpg?t=1414102636)
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This entire set comes from the same piece of curly cherry wood and matches perfect. Any difference is lighting...
(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah223/DBoone17/7_zpsbe8965cb.jpg?t=1414102646)
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Very nice, sir, very nice indeed! Is the wood significantly heavier that your previous setup?
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I appreciate it armoredman! It feels very well balanced with the wood and while of course heavier - I wouldn't call it significantly heavier. Once you put all the rails, sights, lights etc on a tactical version (ie - my other one) I wouldn't call the weight an issue at all. Handles quite well actually! This previously had the black Czech furniture as sold from Czechpoint (VZ58 tactical but with a regular black stock instead of the AR stock)...
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$295 on ebay for the furniture with all hardware. Looks great bro, but the left side of my brain is having difficulty justifying $300 for new furniture on my $300 rifle from CSA. Had my hopes up and would get it if I had the cash though, but I got a wife and bills.
I would probably swap somebody their fixed stock for one of my folders.
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Haha - technically I used the "best offer" button but after seeing the quality of it I am ok with his asking price;)
By the way - NICE score finding a CSA for 300! I'd say that's like a lottery win!
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Sorry, nick, only vz-58 fixed stock I have laying about is the Czechpoint factory Sporter version, the black plastic one.
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For anyone searching for a review prior to buying: I put 61 rounds through the rifle pretty quick. Not a major test but while the metal was quite hot the wood hand guards hadn't heated up yet. I think since they are thicker than the original they will take some abuse. I was going to put on the side mount but it just looks too cool with the wood so leaving her as is... I have a set of Czech black furniture if anyone needs it...;)
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Sweet.
Yes it's not cheap to own a rifle as good as that.
It's like having a foreign model for a girlfriend except
it doesn't cost as much and it doesn't complain either.
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Nice looking rifle
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Dat's CLASSY.
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Very nice looking.
I only have folders, I should pick up a beaver barf butt stock just to try the feel.
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Sweet, the wood really looks nice.
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Preciate all the comments! It handles very nicely in the wood stock!
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It looks as though the pistol grip may have a bit more length to it. Is that correct?
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That is correct - grip and handguards are beefed up a bit. Very solid!
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Very nice setup. Please let us know how it stands up long term.
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Looks amazing. Congrats and keep us posted.
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Awesome looking rifle one of the best I've seen !
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DB or someone on here has been trying to sell a VZ58 with that type of wood on it...
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Awesome looking rifle one of the best I've seen !
I appreciate it! The individual who sold me that stock set has them on ebay time to time. They are made in Virginia.
RSR - thanks! That was me indeed! I am glad I didn't sell it though - keeping it after all. It's going through a makeover. I'll post some pictures here when it's finished.
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Well, the make over is done. The rifle has been refinished to Czech military gray and now has a bayonet lug (changed the front sight base). The wood hand guards are a little loose. Anyone had loose wood hand guards? I was going to put a wood shim in there as per recommendation of the stock maker but curious as to any suggestions....?
It is now a Czech Small Arms, threaded barrel with bayonet lug rifle. I still may buy an original military wood stock.... It's a sickness
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Well, the make over is done. The rifle has been refinished to Czech military gray and now has a bayonet lug (changed the front sight base). The wood hand guards are a little loose. Anyone had loose wood hand guards? I was going to put a wood shim in there as per recommendation of the stock maker but curious as to any suggestions....?
It is now a Czech Small Arms, threaded barrel with bayonet lug rifle. I still may buy an original military wood stock.... It's a sickness
Did you paint with the "VZ2000" gray? http://www.lauerweaponry.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=710
Pictures please.
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That is one of the sharpest VZ's I have ever seen. Your wood is giving me wood.
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The FSB's and finish was all done by Troy at In Range. Excellent and easy to deal with... Besides my SLIGHTLY loose hand guard (my issue - NOT a problem from In Range) I have no complaints. EDIT: Replaced indoor shot with a sunlight image:
(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah223/DBoone17/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsohligmao.jpg)
ATTEMPTS AT SHOWING GRAY VIA SPOTLIGHT:
(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah223/DBoone17/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpssytmrjxg.jpg)
(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah223/DBoone17/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps8kgvu1u5.jpg)
(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah223/DBoone17/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsfk2udylm.jpg)
(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah223/DBoone17/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps0nl6yhjq.jpg)
COUPLE FAMILY COMPARISON SHOTS:
(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah223/DBoone17/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsy9fxqhh6.jpg)
(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah223/DBoone17/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpszzkvtsvt.jpg)
THE BAYO FAMILY
(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah223/DBoone17/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpslx2fddin.jpg)
WHAT WIFE?!?! BUT I STILL HAVE AN UNISSUED FOLDING STOCK WITH NO RIFLE....I CAN QUIT ANYTIME I WANT!!!
(http://i1381.photobucket.com/albums/ah223/DBoone17/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsettxb88z.jpg)
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Nice collection and I really like that wood furniture. I may have to do one of mine with wood.
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I appreciate it! Forgot to add - I bought the cone flash hider direct from Czech Repub as per a link provided by RSR. The finish on the flash hider and the rifle matched perfect... I only had time to take a quick sunlight shot - which I used to replace an indoor shot above.... I recommend the gray finish! I kept the tactical one in regular black. The Barf glory rifle finish is the Czechpoint CP rifle version finish - closer to military finish IMO
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Do you know if In Range used Duracoat for the metal finish?
Also, do you know if mikemanassas is the same person as behind Ironwood, or is this someone different? I assume from an earlier post it came with the hardware?
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I do not think Mike and Ironwood are the same. Mike is in VA and Ironwood is in Calif. It came with all hardware good to go....
I didn't go with Ironwood as I lack basic skills (ie - am lazy) and didn't want to put finishing touches on it. I got this off ebay from mikemanassas (for anyone who didn't read that). He was excellent to deal with and I highly recommend him. They (stock, grip, and guards) fit rock solid but I had them out shooting and on and off a few times. I think a couple small tweaks will make them rock solid again... Seller also made matching bayonet handles. I'm almost don't want to shoot it - but it'll get used!
I do NOT know what finish In Range used. I went with them as it keeps my Czechpoint warranty intact. Plus - In Range was highly recommended and did not disappoint!
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Thanks for the info. I may eventually go with Ironwood but haven't priced out the hardware yet or decided on a species. I like finishing wood so that's a plus for me. I'm still leaning towards getting a CSA side rail installed on my second one for some sort of magnified scope and giving it a solid stock but am still a little undecided about going with barf stock or springing for a wood set.
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@DanielBoone Was wondering if those cone breaks are on Czechpoint CSA rifles?
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It's only one actually - but is on a CSA fr?m Czechpoint. The tac version and wood stock are the newer CSA Czechpoint rifles w threaded barrels and the beaver barf is one of the CP (Czechpoint builds) versions w surplus barrel and pinned/welded muzzle break... I may let that one go - its a beaut but I prefer the threaded barrel