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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CZ SP-01 and variants => Topic started by: Wasatch801 on April 06, 2006, 12:55:27 AM
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Is there any plans to offer this gun in a .40SW? I would think that an SP-01 in .40 cal (esp if it's SA) would be a budget alternative to a CZ TS for the Limited shooter. Can the current SP-01s be modified from 9mm to .40 cal? Has anybody tried this yet? If so, what does it entail exactly?
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CZ makes the 75b SA in .40...which would work great for L10...you'd be at a serious capacity disadvantage in Limited/Standard Division.
also by the rules..the gun has to meet production requirments of 500 units in 1 year. so modifying an SP01 to shoot .40 would no be sufficient for USPSA.
at the minimum..if you take and existing SP01, you would need to alter your breechface, replace the barrel and respring the gun..no telling if the slide as is has enough mass to handle the .40. The 75bSA and the 75b in .40 do have heavier slides...
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Can the current SP-01s be modified from 9mm to .40 cal? Has anybody tried this yet? If so, what does it entail exactly?
Well, I can tell you that the SP-01 will not mate with the slide from the CZ 75B in .40 caliber.
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Mike
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I doubt that you could get one modified. It would take a custom barrel and Bar-Sto is emphatic about not going UP in calibers for the barrels they build.
A standard .40 barrel would have the wrong headspace and the extractor might not work. Slide top would have to be upgraded, to -- and I don't know which one it would take.
You'd need an entire top end -- and the budget price would start to go up, then.
You could probably upgrade a 75B or 75B SA in .40 less expensively and have roughly the same gun.
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Thanks for the info. guys! A bit more difficult to do than I had imagined. I guess we'll just have to pressure CZ to make this gun in .40 cal! I bet they'd sell a TON of them!
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here check this out its your sp-01in 40 cal or the closest thing to it .....
www.shootingtimes.com/han...75_091305/ (http://www.shootingtimes.com/handgun_reviews/cz75_091305/)
lots of info
ps: isn't california tested or approved so u cant buyit here
atleast not from the deller you need to buy it of a www auction
and have it shipped to your lokal gun market pay them $30 for paipers
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About the SP-01 not taking .40 uppers, I have made the swap a few times. It works, at least one the ones I have.
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As you can see how many posts i have only 2
when i read the forum i got ecsited i even sindup to the forum
becouse i have a CZ 75 tactical or ps-01 in 40 cal and it is very effective
it hasa long exturnal barrel ,length of 4.7 inches about an inch longer then the gun it self its made by Izhmash
There is a heavy steel cover or housing that goes over the extention of the berral witch clips on the CZ75 tactical raill this provents the gun from kicking up at burst.
this heavy berral housing has a tactical rail mount on the botom witch goes from the front to the trigergard .
This rail mount is for a 5000000 lumanence strobe light with is so bright you see a green goast in your vition for weeks affter using it not for a laser or flashlight, the berral sticks out only 15mm to exoppse the berral threding for suppresor.
sorry for the spelling
i love this gun becouse its a lifesaver
my favoret pistol ever is the CZ 40 cal
and that is the negative side of the gun ... most guys use 9mm not 40 cal or 10mm so you have to be preperd 100% but you never know how mutch ammo you may need, when you need it most ...
this is how u feel
trust me its not were you want to be
so you better not get stuck up bleepsCreek without a pattel
(i find this saying very funny)
most use old school 9mm LUGER becouse it is evrywere and in some plasses people have to spetial order 40 cal
and chensses are rear that a lost 40cal pistol without ammo whold be useful to them (these people....)
thoe u can still use 9mm in a 40cal (and most will becouse of ignorence ) but it will not be efective unlles it is at close range
(and you will also damage the suppresor after about 1 magazene making it usseles )
thats also why Spetsnaz and u.s. ops use the 40cal
but for most gun ouners expetioly in the us 40 cal s&w is a wonderful choice
see usa = 40cal. S&W
most use metric 9mm LUGER
i hope u know what im geting at here ...
Call Izhmash about the berrals
most people in russia know 2 languges
its mandatory by the schools in russia to lern franch gurman english or other. about 25% will speak poor english just ask for long cz75 berral or se/ze 75 dulla in russian
injoy the 40 if you can u can
CZ75 TACTICAL 40CAL
BIZON SUBMACHINE GUN
SVD U 05
ARE OVERALL THE GRAITEST WEAPONS ON EARTH
I hope all this info was benifitual to you in some way
it was like therepy for me
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Matt,
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About the SP-01 not taking .40 uppers, I have made the swap a few times. It works, at least one the ones I have.
I've got both of them to clean today, so I'll give it another try. When I wrote the above, I'd just tried the swap, but didn't want to force anything. I'll post my second attempt results later tonight.
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Mike
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Spetz,
It's funny that they keep calling that gun the "compact" in that article. Sure looks like a P-01 to me with that full-length dustcover! Also, at this time, the CZ-USA website lists neither the 75 compact nor the P-01 as being available in .40cal, only 9mm.
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Matt, you've given me more food for thought. The fact that the one is able to get a .40 upper on an SP-01 frame would make the SP-01 an even more versatile gun than it already is [I'm thinkin' BARGAIN Limited (major) gun here.]. But which magazines would you use? What is the highest capacity .40 mag one could put into an SP-01? Just wondering since there is no .40 cal mags made specifically for the SP-01 yet. Thanks!
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mbott,
Please let us know of your results with the swap.
Matt,
What kind of results did you get with your SP-01 .40 swap? Were they satisfactory? Do you or Angus know if an SP-01 .40cal is in the pipeline at CZ? Or would you have to kill us all if ya told us?
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I've got both of them to clean today, so I'll give it another try. When I wrote the above, I'd just tried the swap, but didn't want to force anything. I'll post my second attempt results later tonight.
No joy. The .40 slide will not mate with the SP-01 frame. Neither will my 75B 9mm slide. If i get a couple of free minutes over the weekend, I'll investigate further.
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Mike
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Hi,
today I was in CZUB in Uhersky Brod and spoke with Mr. Trkulja (Manager of CZUB).
We disccused about SP01 in .40 SW and I have not any sure information when they will produce SP01 in this caliber, but all indicate that YES.
When you take slide from CZ75B in .40SW and put it with SP01 frame you can test it.
Mr. Trkulja did it and he feels that the going is more better than at CZ75TS in .40SW.
So you can help to produce when you will write aks e-mail to CZ USA with question: "Will you produce SP01 in 40SW". More questions can help to start to produce...I think.
BR,
Lukas
CR
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When you take slide from CZ75B in .40SW and put it with SP01 frame you can test it.
Not all of them fit.
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Mike
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I have swapped the 40 top on the sp01 in sveral instance and have found it works. I also used the 9mm p01 magazine with 40 S&W ammo and found that worked, I did not do extensive testing and I am sure there may be some tolerance differecne but my opnion is that it works pretty good.
Only problem is you have to buy two guns
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AH: And how many rounds of .40s you can hold in your SP magazin? My tip is when you holt 19/18 of 9Lugers you can have 16/17 in .40s.
For IPSC Standard good capacity
He has not buy second gun, only slide and barrell. I am not sure how it is with your legislativy but in Czechs law about guns and ammo it is possible.
BR,
Lukas
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I can't wait for the Sp-01 to come out in .40SW!!!! Although I still might just buy one in 9mm anyways! Thanks for the info guys!
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So you can try buy next slide and barrell in .40SW and your gunsmither can fit it...
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I'm glad that CZ has plans for a .40. 9mm is good and hi-capacity 9mm is better, but hi-capacity .40 is definitely more better. The .40 will truly be at home in the 41 oz SP-01.
Hopefully, the .40 will come out in a customized model with all the fixin's, like the Shadow. I'll be in line for two, once the design mods have been tweaked.
The only specs I could suggest for a new .40 SP-01 are a slightly shortened dust cover like the 75 Combat II, standard tritium sights, lower paddle thumb safety levers like the 75 SA and TS, and a firing pin stop without firing pin safety like the 85 Combat. Then it would be purrrfect.