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CZ LONG ARMS => CZ Scorpion EVO => Topic started by: ccjcc81 on January 30, 2015, 12:00:14 AM

Title: SBR form 1 for Scorpion
Post by: ccjcc81 on January 30, 2015, 12:00:14 AM

One of my favorite YT creators, MrGunsNGear, created a helpful video walkthrough of an ATF efile form 1.  He was submitting a form one for his Scorpion Evo.  This leads me to believe that he's pretty certain that the ATF will let him SBR that pistol.  I was under the impression that the pistol would fall under 922(r) restrictions when you make a rifle out of it.  What are the rules about 922(r) if you're making a rifle from an imported pistol?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xz7wpcgUq98

Title: Re: SBR form 1 for Scorpion
Post by: armoredman on January 30, 2015, 10:38:06 PM

CZ-USA has asked ATFE for an offical ruling on SBR the Scorpion without running afoul of 922(r), but ATFE hasn't made this ruling yet. If 922(r) does apply, then CZ-USA will have to get some manufacturing equipment in to make enough domestic parts to play the "ten or less" game. if not, my Form 1 will be completed as soon as I can scrape up the $200! Well, that and actually GET a Scorpion...:)

Title: Re: SBR form 1 for Scorpion
Post by: mikec on February 04, 2015, 03:48:20 AM

I hope it does not take ATF 6 months to send a reply!   O0

Title: Re: SBR form 1 for Scorpion
Post by: CitizenPete on February 04, 2015, 07:13:46 AM

This is extremely timely for me personally.  While I haven't been able to snag an EVO yet, I am going through the same motions on a Form 1 in regards to a CSA VZ58 762 Pistol.  Luckily(?) for me there are US parts available to play the 10 part game on my pistol.

A response to CZ from the BATF in the positive, along the lines of the ATF's "Nixon response letter" (regarding the import and SBR of a fully built an complete long rifle by shortening the barrel), would be a key decision for all complete import pistols.  If CZ got the green light on this pistol for SBR it would set precedent for SBR of any semi-auto legal import pistol. 

This is great.

Title: Re: SBR form 1 for Scorpion
Post by: Greankrayon on February 05, 2015, 01:10:18 AM

No real rush I guess considering the stupid forms take a year to process.

Title: Re: SBR form 1 for Scorpion
Post by: Nimdabew on February 05, 2015, 01:29:32 PM

My last paper Form 1 took 3 months to process. efile is closer to 30-45 days.

Title: Re: SBR form 1 for Scorpion
Post by: RSR on February 05, 2015, 05:42:42 PM

I just asked my ffl about SBRs -- they also does a lot of class 3 stuff.  And they said it's more than 6 but less than 9 months now typically.

Title: Re: SBR form 1 for Scorpion
Post by: CitizenPete on February 06, 2015, 11:49:39 PM

eFile and /or trusts process are much faster.

New files should be down to under 6 months to get a Stamp back according to several reliable sources. ( Baring any unintended consequences resulting from Bloomberg, Feinstein or the POTUS shenanigans -- driving more citizens to buy more)