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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CZ Polymer Pistols: P10, P-07, P-09 => Topic started by: fastlane604 on June 11, 2015, 03:05:47 PM

Title: P-07 fit IDPA box for CCP?
Post by: fastlane604 on June 11, 2015, 03:05:47 PM
I know the spec width on the P-07 should be a little too wide for the IDPA CCP box. Has anyone actually tried it?
Title: Re: P-07 fit IDPA box for CCP?
Post by: Tanners Owner on June 24, 2015, 11:01:15 PM
I happen to have a box - if you are in western Wa, we can link up to try. PM me if so
Title: Re: P-07 fit IDPA box for CCP?
Post by: fastlane604 on June 25, 2015, 01:19:24 AM
Thanks for the offer but I do not currently own a P07. I was asking with the thought of buying one.
Title: Re: P-07 fit IDPA box for CCP?
Post by: oldfrank on July 03, 2015, 01:55:38 PM
I am going to shoot my P-07 in an IDPA match On Sunday. I will check the gun in the box and report back.
Title: Re: P-07 fit IDPA box for CCP?
Post by: fastlane604 on July 03, 2015, 09:43:02 PM
Thanks, Frank.
Title: Re: P-07 fit IDPA box for CCP?
Post by: oldfrank on July 05, 2015, 08:34:08 PM
Well before the match today I asked the MD if I could check my P-07 in the box with CCP spacer installed. I put it in the box and the lid slammed perfectly. This is with decock levers not safties on the gun.

I have known and shot with this MD for a long time and also worked major match set ups with him quite often. He made the inserts. He is a former Military and airline pilot and is one of the most detail oriented person I know(almost to a fault) so I trust his box.

I measured my gun with digital calipers and it is over the allowed width but it fits in the box. I am not sure what to make of this but will check with another box just to see when I can.
Title: Re: P-07 fit IDPA box for CCP?
Post by: fastlane604 on July 05, 2015, 09:12:04 PM
Thanks, Frank. That is very helpful information.
Title: Re: P-07 fit IDPA box for CCP?
Post by: bigdave24 on July 05, 2015, 10:33:39 PM
Frank, i've seen you also own a P-02.  Does that fit in the ccp box?
Title: Re: P-07 fit IDPA box for CCP?
Post by: oldfrank on July 06, 2015, 02:44:13 PM
I had to file the right side safety down to get it under the specified IDPA width, but I never tried it in a box before filing and wonder if it might have fit as it was.
Title: Re: P-07 fit IDPA box for CCP?
Post by: bigdave24 on July 12, 2015, 02:25:36 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: P-07 fit IDPA box for CCP?
Post by: oldfrank on July 17, 2015, 03:25:16 PM
Last night at our local match I tried my P-07 in a box with inserts from the IDPA store.

The box lacked about 1/16" of closing. It is so close and the box tolerances are so different, I would be afraid to take a chance at a sanctioned match of it passing.
Title: Re: P-07 fit IDPA box for CCP?
Post by: fastlane604 on July 17, 2015, 04:32:08 PM
Last night at our local match I tried my P-07 in a box with inserts from the IDPA store.

The box lacked about 1/16" of closing. It is so close and the box tolerances are so different, I would be afraid to take a chance at a sanctioned match of it passing.

Frank,
Is the safety narrower or wider than the decocker?
Title: Re: P-07 fit IDPA box for CCP?
Post by: oldfrank on July 17, 2015, 07:13:24 PM
I have the decockers and I would guess they are thinner but I have not verified it.
Title: Re: P-07 fit IDPA box for CCP?
Post by: fastlane604 on July 17, 2015, 10:12:41 PM
I have the decockers and I would guess they are thinner but I have not verified it.

Thanks.
Title: Re: P-07 fit IDPA box for CCP?
Post by: daytona955i on July 29, 2015, 10:31:29 PM
The rules allow you to hold the box lid closed with "light" pressure. I wouldn't mind filling down my safety levers a bit and shooting it as an ESP in CCP gun. Not sure I want to cut down the decocker...
Title: Re: P-07 fit IDPA box for CCP?
Post by: daytona955i on August 14, 2015, 09:46:34 AM
I tried it with an official IDPA box, and the spacers that IDPA sent to the club.

It fits fine, and the lid closes completely. With the tolerance specs, I have no doubt that you could hold the lid closed if a box was tighter. The tolerance is that the box can be only 1/16" larger than any dimension, there is no acceptable tolerance difference on the lower side.

The lid is a little wonky, but I flipped it around with the levers inside and it looked the same.

(http://i.imgur.com/EgRShQr.jpg?1)

(http://i.imgur.com/2XdHUbp.jpg?1)
Title: Re: P-07 fit IDPA box for CCP?
Post by: fastlane604 on August 15, 2015, 07:14:10 PM
Thanks, Daytona. I appreciate the pic and the effort.