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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CZ Polymer Pistols: P10, P-07, P-09 => Topic started by: eliguzman10 on November 18, 2015, 08:12:15 PM
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So I switched the decocker to safety. And the safety wont engage unless the hammer is slightly pull... If the hammer is at full rest the safety wont engage. Its not until i slightly pull the hammer will the safety engage.. is this normal? I can't post a picture simply because I don't know how to... :-[
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I'm pretty sure that is normal. I've still got the decocker in both of mine, but I put the safety in once or twice and I believe that is the way it operated.
Joe
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Hammer has to be fully cocked back for safety to work. (If I'm understanding correctly)
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I just dealt with this problem a couple of weeks ago on my P09. My safety would only engage in the half-cocked position, but not the hammer down or fully cocked positions. If your safety is engaging When the hammer is fully cocked, then don't worry about it not flipping up in the hammer is down. But if your safety is also not working when your hammer is fully cocked, then you might have to gently file down the shaft of the left side safety right where it is making contact with the sear.
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the safety will engage when the hammer is fully cocked. But when the hammer is flat, (double action) completely flat it wont engage. only when i slightly pull the hammer will it engage in safety. I'm just wondering if i should be worried. The safety hasn't failed or anything. but just wondering. Could it be fixed? or just leave it.
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When the hammer is completely down there is no need for the safety to be able to be engaged. If you want to render the gun unfireable when the hammer is down you will need to put a trigger lock on it. Your gun is as all of ours are, in correct working order.
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Thanks for the help guys! :)
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I had this problem as well. I had to file the top of the safety bar cutout where it engaged the sear. I hit it with a fine file for about 10-15 passes then reinstalled it, I was able to see and feel a little more upward movement toward engagement. I hit it about 5 more times with the file and then some 600 grit sand paper. Reinstalled and I had positive engagement with a tactile (although gritty) and audible confirmation, function check was satisfactory. I removed it, polished it up with some 1200 grit sand paper and a light coat of CLP. Reinstalled, function tested and packed her for a day at the range tomorrow.
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Per the manual that comes with the gun:
The safety can be set to the "Safe" position even with the hammer on the safety notch. However, it is strongly not recommended that the safety be engaged while in this state as any forced cocking of the hammer or pulling of the trigger could damage the trigger mechanism and cause unwanted firing though the safety is in the "Locked" position.
Though you can engage the safety with the hammer in the half cocked position, CZ recommends that you don't.
I have to ask, if a rounds chambered and the pistol is in DA why would you want to engage the safety?
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For clarification the manual goes on to say:
The pistol safety shall be only engaged with the hammer in its rear
position, i.e. cocked. The use of safety is therefore convenient for short interruptions of firing
only.
Besides the method previously described it is possible to put the pistol into a safety
mode and still be ready to fire immediately.
Load the pistol. Grasp the grip, POINT IN A SAFE DIRECTION. With thumb press on
the grooved area (thumb piece) of the hammer, pull the trigger and release the hammer
slowly ahead (Fig. 6) until it rests on the action or safety thumb of the hammer. Release the
trigger. Practise this operation very carefully to avoid an accidental discharge! We strongly
recommend to practise this operation beforehand with the pistol unloaded!
In this state the pistol is safe for all normal handling and at the same time ready for
immediate use. Please remember that the safest way to secure a pistol is to unload it and
store it in a safe place! "
There is no mention of engaging the safety while the pistol is in DA.
That, coupled with the resistance of the safety to engage while in DA is indicative that it's not supposed to.
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I have to ask, if a rounds chambered and the pistol is in DA why would you want to engage the safety?
I only came across this when i was cleaning and switching out the decocker to safety. I only wanted to know if that is normal as this is my first firearm and thought i should be concerned.