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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CZ82 & CZ83 CLUB => Topic started by: derweibhai on December 09, 2015, 10:24:14 PM
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For all those that dont know 82/83 mags are interchangeable, and Wideners now has a bunch of them new for $14.50 each. Cheapest I have seen them prior was about $29 each and that was a decent deal. Guessing this wont last, so order while you still can.
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Thanks for the tip! I went to Widener's site today and ordered two for my new CZ83. Can't have too many magazines - I'm up to five and I haven't even shot it yet! :D
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Wish I knew if these have the crossed swords. Haven't had much luck with after market mags.
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These are marked CZ on the baseplate and have an X on the side. No idea what that means, but they are built just as heavy and well as the factory mags. Well worth the money in my opinion. Dont see them ever getting cheaper than this.
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Wish I knew if these have the crossed swords. Haven't had much luck with after market mags.
They are advertised as being CZ-factory mags for the military-issue Vz82, never issued and still in te factory wrapper.
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Thanks, I'm going to order a couple.
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I left you some ;D
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These are likely NOT the genuine article. I bought several, CZ-MFG on baseplate. They are thinner steel, need feed lip adjustments and thickness adjustments to even drop with some effort. Mine were so bad I haven't even tried them all. I hope you have better luck.
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These are likely NOT the genuine article. I bought several, CZ-MFG on baseplate. They are thinner steel, need feed lip adjustments and thickness adjustments to even drop with some effort. Mine were so bad I haven't even tried them all. I hope you have better luck.
Ordered some from Classic Firearms and had similar luck as you. That's why I'm weary of any mags without the crossed swords.
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I believe the 'crossed swords' (at one point they looked like 'crossed canons' to me) indicate Czech military issue magazines. They are definitely better than the "mfg CZ" labelled ones.
The only other CZ82/83 magazines that have worked flawlessly for me have been purchased new from CZ-USA - they usually run about $45 to $50 each.
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I've heard all the stories but I still couldn't help myself and added a couple to my order anyway. They lock the slide back but don't drop without some persuasion.
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Cross sword on the left, CZ mfg. on the right and installed.
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Do they feed reliably? At that price they could certainly have value as extra 'range magazines' if they actually work, even if they are not 100%
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I just ordered 2. I will let everyone know how well they work.
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Just an update for anyone thinking of ordering these. I received two, which appear to be in new, unissued condition. However, other than the "CZ MFG" stamp on the baseplate, they are unmarked. No crossed swords. They have a welded seam down the center of the back which is a little bit "flexible", in that it feels like you could crush it with a good squeeze at that point. However they do seat perfectly in the mag well, eject, and operate the slide stop when empty just as well as the original CZ mags I have.
I suspect that these are from a military contract buy by some country that issued the CZ-82/CZ-83 - from the "lowest bidder, so to speak - but that they may work perfectly well. (As a side note, our own supply people screwed up with a big Beretta 92 mag order from Mec-Gar when some rear-echelon weenie insisted that Mec-Gar phosphate coat the INSIDE of the magazine tubes. Once they hit the sandbox our soldiers found that they wouldn't feed reliably until they stripped them down and polished the phosphating off of the inside of the tube.)
I loaded up the two that I have, one with S&B and the other with WWB with the flat point. I received a Caldwell chronograph from Santa that I want to try out (We were experiencing unprecedented monsoon weather around Christmas, but now it's gone to sunny and cold), so today I may set up down in the back yard by the creek and blow through the WWB to see if my CZ83 will feed it, and see if the mags work.
I probably won't use either of these as carry magazines - just due to my nagging lack of confidence with them - but will relegate them to range mags (at least for the foreseeable future).
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Do they feed reliably? At that price they could certainly have value as extra 'range magazines' if they actually work, even if they are not 100%
Have not been to the range. If they work, or can be made to work, I was thinking of sanding down/polishing the drag points on the mags so they at least can be removed without issue. My 82 is just a range toy so it's not something that keeps me up at night.
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Concerning the crossed swords/X on the cheap mags, I just talked to Wideners and they confirmed they will not have have the cross and they "think" they are military surplus but no indication of country of origin. They even indicated they won't work in an 83 (not sure if that is true.)
Since I am new to my CZ83, with only the mag that came with it, I have no clue beyond what they told me, so heads up.
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Do they feed reliably? At that price they could certainly have value as extra 'range magazines' if they actually work, even if they are not 100%
Have not been to the range. If they work, or can be made to work, I was thinking of sanding down/polishing the drag points on the mags so they at least can be removed without issue. My 82 is just a range toy so it's not something that keeps me up at night.
if you come up with a good way to get your mags to pop out properly please share. 3 of my 4 current mags stick when I press the release and I have the two cheap ones on the way. My CZ-82 is mostly a toy too, but would be nice to have a few mags that work properly
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The problem I had with the Wideners mags is that the loaded rounds in the magazine were denting the front of the magazine enough to preclude easy extraction from the grip. One of them broke at the back seam as well.
Wideners has also been sold. Or their online store front has anyway. Always liked Wideners.
I may peen the bullet nose dents down and try case hardening those spots.
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AZ_CZ -
Do they feed reliably? At that price they could certainly have value as extra 'range magazines' if they actually work, even if they are not 100%
Have not been to the range. If they work, or can be made to work, I was thinking of sanding down/polishing the drag points on the mags so they at least can be removed without issue. My 82 is just a range toy so it's not something that keeps me up at night.
if you come up with a good way to get your mags to pop out properly please share. 3 of my 4 current mags stick when I press the release and I have the two cheap ones on the way. My CZ-82 is mostly a toy too, but would be nice to have a few mags that work properly
Had some time to finally look at my 82. What I found was the the mag release was gummy and the aftermarket wood grips were hitting the new mags. I was going to disassemble the mag release but blowing it out with cleaner, pressurized air, and adding a drop of lube was all it needed to easily depress and get comlete action of the release. The new mags seemed to be hanging up on my aftermarket wood grips but not the factory plastic. A little sanding fixed that. While I had the grips off I used some 1500 grit paper to polish the inside of the mag well where the mags rub. Hit the front and back of the mags while I was at it. Nothing serious, just looks like they have been used for awhile. Now the mags drop free with the slide closed and open like they are suppose to.
Might get to the range tomorrow and see how they feed.
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Just tried the 5 I bought and tweaked to dimensions of the real ones, two of them were functional without fails, three had nose up fail to feeds with about 4 left in the mag. I'll try tweaking them closed tighter and try again, but I'll never trust these. Buying genuine would have been wiser. For me anyway.