The Original CZ Forum
CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CZ CLONE CLUB => Topic started by: RedState on February 01, 2016, 09:19:46 PM
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Now that the Caniks have been out for a while, I have a question for all of us Canik and CZ owners.
Are these Canik pistols of comparable quality to the CZ that they will hold up to just as many rounds and as much abuse as will a CZ?
I have a C-100, L-120 and a CZ85b. I don't have a lot of rounds through any of them. The CZ has about 1800, the C-100 has over 500 and the L-120 only has about 150. From my layperson's observations, I don't see anything that would make the Caniks inferior to the CZs.
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Interesting question, but my matte stainless CZ75b and C-100, L-120 and P-100 don't have enough rounds through them to objectively comment just yet.
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I have run Caniks harder than most on the forum. I have 4 and 1/2 years building and shooting custom Caniks, Sars, and of course I love my Cz's. To date I have had one failure with a Canik, I called and asked for a replacement part ,instead they had me send back the pistol and sent a me new one, this was a stock stingray model. On average my caniks have 5000 to 7000 rounds thru them. I have been very satisfied with the performance to date. I have broken one older Cz as well a slide stop failed, no big deal.
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Thanks, Brian.
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Caniks are very good, I have owned a stingray and currently own a C100 with approx. 4500+ rounds thru it.
No issues whatsoever. I think CZ has a little better control over tolerances but that is only because Canik likes to change things from run to run.
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Thanks for the responses so far. I guess I should have also included in my question a request for opinions on fit and finnish as well as the quality of parts.
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Thanks for the responses so far. I guess I should have also included in my question a request for opinions on fit and finnish as well as the quality of parts.
They are pretty darn close IMO.
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Thanks Rmach.
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My L-120 has held-up to considerable abuse just fine, and is arguably overall as good a pistol as my SP-01 that as cost me 3x as much (with all the upgrades).
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At least one plus that I can think of for the Caniks is that they are a lot easier to find than the CZs.
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Really? I can't find the Caniks anywhere! Especially not at the $300 price that a lot of people are claiming to get them for.
Do I just have to find physical stores to get them?
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You can find them at Sportsmans Warehouse, if you have any in your area. I did find my L120 for a sreaming deal at a LGS fairly recently. Good luck
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Unfortunately no :( Can't find any in FL!
Only found one dealer in Orlando, but they're out of stock currently.
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Really? I can't find the Caniks anywhere! Especially not at the $300 price that a lot of people are claiming to get them for.
Do I just have to find physical stores to get them?
They are hard to find in Louisiana too. Some of our LGS are using a free website service provided by their distributers. I just googled my LGS and went to their website. Searched for my Tristar S-120 and it checked the Distributer stock. I paid for it online and picked it up at my LGS 2 days later with no shipping fee.
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I found my last 2 at LGS in S Florida. The plastic grips really make them look cheap. I offered to get both if they made me a deal because they were lowering the value of the other high dollar pistols. They agreed and I left with both for less than $600. out the door. That was a L and a T 120.
I don't know how long before the masses figure out how good these are. I have to beat my friends off every time I bring one out.
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Wow, I didnt' realize they were so hard to find.
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Here's a bunch. http://gunwatcher.com/Search-best-price/tristar-pistol-for-sale
But wow, they go up any higher and they're gonna price themselves out.
I'll bet once the new shipment of CZ's flood the market, you'll see the prices drop again on the clones.
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I've noticed that gun and ammo prices are up ~10% over the past month.
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Unfortunately no :( Can't find any in FL!
Only found one dealer in Orlando, but they're out of stock currently.
I would suggest that you actually put your hands on some Tristars/Caniks before you order one. I took a chance when I bought my T-120 just going by the reviews I read. I'm still very happy with my purchase, but I still would suggest that you put your hands on some first.
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Unfortunately I can't.
I'm in a pretty crappy situation where I go to school in IL, but I am a FL resident. I'm planning on buying a gun when I go home for Spring Break, but I only have like a few hours because of the 3 day hold on handguns.
And I am not even allowed to handle firearms here in IL because I don't have a FOID. And my range doesn't even have a CZ. I do plan on shooting some other guns to see if I like them. I just really like the metal frame after shooting a Beretta 92FS.
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You shouldn't need a FOID card. Non residents aren't required to have one. According to the IL. State site.
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Yea, unfortunately you do. To handle the guns.
I can rent firearms or bring my own, but I can't handle them at Gander Mountain or any gun stores around here. It's really friggin stupid.
I love how out of states can easily rent guns, but IL residents have to have a FOID just to rent.
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Wow, I feel for you. That just boggles the mind.
I guess I take for granted being able to fondle any gun I want, and walking out with it minutes later.
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Haha yea. I knew Chicago was strict, but I didn't know the entire state of IL was super strict since I only hear about Maryland and Cali on the forums. I guess it's always just a weird situation if you're a student out of state.
I could get a concealed license to pick up my gun right away in FL, but I don't plan on carrying, only shooting at the range. So that would just be a huge chunk of money out of my gun and ammo fund.
Back to the topic though.. thanks for the Gunwatcher link! 405 isn't too shabby for the S-120. Plus ~20 for FFL.
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The price:quality ratio of the Caniks is impressive. However, when I was shopping the comparable CZ and Canik models the CZ's were usually $120 to $150 above the cost of the Canik. Considering things like alloy vs steel frame and resale value, I generally ended up with a CZ. Today I was shooting a PCR and Stingray-C and enjoyed both equally. Never had an issue with the Canik and am glad I purchased it. Bottom line is they are both good side arms.
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... Considering things like alloy vs steel frame and resale value, I generally ended up with a CZ. ...
Resale value is a significant factor, if that is a factor that is important to you. Alloy vs. steel is not detracting. In fact, it can be a plus. In any event, Canik makes alloy and steel frames.
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One of the reasons I liked the Canik was for the alloy frame. Never plan to sell or trade it. Have only traded in one gun I have ever owned....SCCY Gen 1 CPX1 on my S&W SD9VE.