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CZ LONG ARMS => VZ-58 semi auto rifle => Topic started by: CitizenPete on June 03, 2016, 12:19:59 PM

Title: John here's your barrel - the RPK of vz.58s?
Post by: CitizenPete on June 03, 2016, 12:19:59 PM: Elongated vz.58 -- (about 8" longer barrel), but is it heavier wall?.
Caption of pic says: vz.43.
(was this a typo?)

Model ("Vzor" or Vz.) number usually designated YEAR of acceptance/approval and/or first year of manufacturing.

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...gun (barrel) elongated by 200mm and the buttstock type is RPK, 7.62x39 mm vz.43

Samopal Vz.58, Jiri Fencl, ISBN 80-206-0765-X
pp.128
Title: Re: John here's your barrel - the RPK of vz.58s?
Post by: felix on June 05, 2016, 12:37:13 PM: CP, Are these barrels available to us poor folks or was this just an informational posting?
Title: Re: John here's your barrel - the RPK of vz.58s?
Post by: CitizenPete on June 05, 2016, 06:42:24 PM: Quote from: felix on June 05, 2016, 12:37:13 PM
CP, Are these barrels available to us poor folks or was this just an informational posting?

Info only -- VZ.58 RPK model.

Picture in the afore referenced book.
Title: Re: John here's your barrel - the RPK of vz.58s?
Post by: Orpheus on June 12, 2016, 02:42:01 PM: He's probably referring to what we call the "M43" Soviet cartridge. In other words, it should be read as "7.62x39, M43"
Title: Re: John here's your barrel - the RPK of vz.58s?
Post by: CitizenPete on June 14, 2016, 03:09:22 PM: Reference: Samopal Vz.58, Jiri Fencl, ISBN 80-206-0765-Xpp.128

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/CitizenPete/C9589E65-8523-4C98-BE0B-70EADC8CF7DE_zpstqjokqkx.jpg)

(http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d16/CitizenPete/4D09D68A-2D5C-4D52-847F-790BFA0E0CA5_zpsyhf9t7xy.jpg)
Title: Re: John here's your barrel - the RPK of vz.58s?
Post by: CitizenPete on June 14, 2016, 03:10:33 PM: Quote from: Orpheus on June 12, 2016, 02:42:01 PM
He's probably referring to what we call the "M43" Soviet cartridge. In other words, it should be read as "7.62x39, M43"

??? Lost me on this.
Title: Re: John here's your barrel - the RPK of vz.58s?
Post by: RSR on June 14, 2016, 07:34:49 PM: "vz" is short for "vzor" which means "pattern" or "model". M43 is the type of 7.62x39 cartridge.

I had to think a few times to get what Orpheus was saying...

I think the "Obr" stands for "obr?zek" which means "picture" or "photo"...

Believe first pic caption roughly translates to (with major help from google translate):
"Small arm KLEC (KLEK appearing to be the name of the picture rifle) with an 200mm extended machine gun barrel and RPK type buttstock. Charge/cartridge 7.62x39 M43."

Second pic is basically saying it's a VZ58 with an extended barrel.