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GENERAL => General Discussion => Topic started by: picklenav130 on July 08, 2016, 09:14:16 PM

Title: Can you get a CZ75 from the factory in the white?
Post by: picklenav130 on July 08, 2016, 09:14:16 PM
I want a CZ75 BD in the white, meaning no finish. My plan is to send it to a gun engraver for a full presentation engraving like an old school cowboy gun.

It would be nice if you didn't have to strip the finish off first.

Matt
Title: Re: Can you get a CZ75 from the factory in the white?
Post by: Tok36 on July 09, 2016, 12:10:24 AM
If they do i have never seen one. The closest would be one of the CZ75 stainless models.  I have seen a few engraved stainless CZs around. I believe the are available in brushed or polished finish.
Title: Re: Can you get a CZ75 from the factory in the white?
Post by: bang bang on July 09, 2016, 01:38:34 AM
they cant shoot you for asking.

Title: Re: Can you get a CZ75 from the factory in the white?
Post by: armoredman on July 10, 2016, 01:01:22 PM
Absolutely it can't hurt to ask. 1-800-955-4486 Monday morning. :) I don't THINK so, but who knows.
Title: Re: Can you get a CZ75 from the factory in the white?
Post by: SPO1SHADOW on July 10, 2016, 05:44:24 PM
Buy a gallon of aircraft epoxy paint remover and a large plastic bowl. Disassemble the gun and put the slide and frame in the plastic bowl, cover it with the remover. Come back in 3 days and you will have what you seek. I buy and refinish at least one used CZ 75 a month. This is the easiest way I have found to get the Polycoat off without damaging the steel underneath. Polycoat is no joke and is very hard to remove unlike the older enamel finishes. I use Klean-strip brand remover and it will take off the Polycoat without any metal damage. I have one soaking now.
Title: Re: Can you get a CZ75 from the factory in the white?
Post by: Tok36 on July 10, 2016, 06:50:22 PM
Buy a gallon of aircraft epoxy paint remover and a large plastic bowl. Disassemble the gun and put the slide and frame in the plastic bowl, cover it with the remover. Come back in 3 days and you will have what you seek. I buy and refinish at least one used CZ 75 a month. This is the easiest way I have found to get the Polycoat off without damaging the steel underneath. Polycoat is no joke and is very hard to remove unlike the older enamel finishes. I use Klean-strip brand remover and it will take off the Polycoat without any metal damage. I have one soaking now.

We want pics please. Gooey pics!  ;D
Title: Re: Can you get a CZ75 from the factory in the white?
Post by: painter on July 10, 2016, 07:06:37 PM
Buy a gallon of aircraft epoxy paint remover and a large plastic bowl. Disassemble the gun and put the slide and frame in the plastic bowl, cover it with the remover. Come back in 3 days and you will have what you seek. I buy and refinish at least one used CZ 75 a month. This is the easiest way I have found to get the Polycoat off without damaging the steel underneath. Polycoat is no joke and is very hard to remove unlike the older enamel finishes. I use Klean-strip brand remover and it will take off the Polycoat without any metal damage. I have one soaking now.
Klean-Strip Aircraft? ... http://www.wmbarr.com/product.aspx?catid=82&prodid=136

Nice stuff...although if you're doing a whole car it gets a little fumey. ;D
Title: Re: Can you get a CZ75 from the factory in the white?
Post by: armoredman on July 10, 2016, 07:37:20 PM
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I have one soaking now.
Is this gonna be like the Palmolive commercial?
Title: Re: Can you get a CZ75 from the factory in the white?
Post by: picklenav130 on July 10, 2016, 11:08:58 PM
Buy a gallon of aircraft epoxy paint remover and a large plastic bowl. Disassemble the gun and put the slide and frame in the plastic bowl, cover it with the remover. Come back in 3 days and you will have what you seek. I buy and refinish at least one used CZ 75 a month. This is the easiest way I have found to get the Polycoat off without damaging the steel underneath. Polycoat is no joke and is very hard to remove unlike the older enamel finishes. I use Klean-strip brand remover and it will take off the Polycoat without any metal damage. I have one soaking now.

Well that sounds easy enough.

How much polishing needs to be done to get a good blued finish?
Title: Re: Can you get a CZ75 from the factory in the white?
Post by: SPO1SHADOW on July 11, 2016, 07:19:51 PM
I have another used 75B coming in tomorrow that I purchased for my 1911 addicted Son. I finally got him off the Coast during the 4th Holiday and he shot some of my CZ's for the first time. Needless to say he fell in love but just having my first Grand Child and buying a new home sort of has him strapped at the moment. So, I went on Gunbroker and purchased one of the Israeli trade ins and plan on building him a super nice CZ 75 with all the fixins. He can take it back to Cherry Point and show the rest of the Jar Heads there what CZ's are all about. Since the gun I commented on has been in the stripper for several days I will use his gun as a stripper pictorial so you get to see the beginning to the end if you care to watch the build as it progresses from beat up old surplus to a shiny 2 tone with all the goodies. Let me know if you want to watch or just see the stripper do it's work. Either way is fine with me.
I promise Blanch would not want to soak her cuticles in this stuff.
Title: Re: Can you get a CZ75 from the factory in the white?
Post by: SPO1SHADOW on July 11, 2016, 07:25:33 PM
Buy a gallon of aircraft epoxy paint remover and a large plastic bowl. Disassemble the gun and put the slide and frame in the plastic bowl, cover it with the remover. Come back in 3 days and you will have what you seek. I buy and refinish at least one used CZ 75 a month. This is the easiest way I have found to get the Polycoat off without damaging the steel underneath. Polycoat is no joke and is very hard to remove unlike the older enamel finishes. I use Klean-strip brand remover and it will take off the Polycoat without any metal damage. I have one soaking now.

Well that sounds easy enough.

How much polishing needs to be done to get a good blued finish?
Once you get the Polycoat off is when the real work begins. You have to get below the Phosphated gray metal that is under the Polycoat to get any bluing to work. Depending on what is hiding under the black paint you may need to draw file, sand or blast to get all the metal prepped for a high luster blue. Pimpin ain't easy and neither is bluing a Polycoated CZ.
Title: Re: Can you get a CZ75 from the factory in the white?
Post by: picklenav130 on July 11, 2016, 10:35:20 PM
Buy a gallon of aircraft epoxy paint remover and a large plastic bowl. Disassemble the gun and put the slide and frame in the plastic bowl, cover it with the remover. Come back in 3 days and you will have what you seek. I buy and refinish at least one used CZ 75 a month. This is the easiest way I have found to get the Polycoat off without damaging the steel underneath. Polycoat is no joke and is very hard to remove unlike the older enamel finishes. I use Klean-strip brand remover and it will take off the Polycoat without any metal damage. I have one soaking now.

Well that sounds easy enough.

How much polishing needs to be done to get a good blued finish?
Once you get the Polycoat off is when the real work begins. You have to get below the Phosphated gray metal that is under the Polycoat to get any bluing to work. Depending on what is hiding under the black paint you may need to draw file, sand or blast to get all the metal prepped for a high luster blue. Pimpin ain't easy and neither is bluing a Polycoated CZ.

That's what I suspected. When I win the lottery I'll send one to Turnbull. Until then I think I'll pick up a stainless 75B for engraving.

BTW if you have time I'd love to see your current build from strip to refinish and beyond.

Matt
Title: Re: Can you get a CZ75 from the factory in the white?
Post by: SPO1SHADOW on July 16, 2016, 09:46:00 AM
I started the thread here:
http://www.czfirearms.us/index.php?topic=81305.msg595427#msg595427
Title: Re: Can you get a CZ75 from the factory in the white?
Post by: DarkLord on July 18, 2016, 01:21:05 PM
Go to your local dollar store and buy a few bottles of a product called "Awesome", it's a household cleaner.  I use it to chemically strip anything painted.  I did small parts on my CZ75 pre-B just yesterday.  Was in the "Awesome" cleaner for less than 30 minutes and all the enamel finish was gone.  Would you believe there was bluing under there?