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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => Compact CZ 75s => Topic started by: rbschneider1 on December 29, 2016, 10:20:43 AM
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Latest video on the CZ P-10 C by MAC:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1zWm09BOrM
ENJOY..................They are almost here............
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Man, I am itching to get my hands on one of these.
I don't need it, I shouldn't buy it.. at least I keep telling myself that anyway.
It looks like a VP9/G19 cross, which is fine. The only thing I'm hesitant about is the trigger. I really do not like striker triggers. I spongy feel, the "plastic creep" as he states just isn't for me. The crisp factor of a DA/SA hammer fired pistol is just superior, in my opinion. Beyond that, I see little value in a trigger safety.
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Like Thebillsman just said I cannot wait to get my hands on one either.
Will wait a little while until more reviews come in about it. At least I hope I can.
Excellent video by MAC.
rich63
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Hopefully they can sell the mags for less than $40 a piece. When law enforcement departments are selecting a new sidearm they take that into account. Expensive magazines can quickly close the price gap to glock.
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MSRP on the mags is $35.
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Thanks IDescribe.
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bringing the MSRP on the mags down is huge.
I really, really, really hope they are revamping their LE program. I would love to see CZ start to eat some market share of LE weapons; but they need the tail end support. The ability to get armorers trained without having to fly them to Kansas City is huge; knowing that if I have an issue Sunday night at 8PM, I can at least get the ball rolling is necessary.
I genuinely believe that CZ pistols are among the best value out there.
Making holster commonality a non-issue was an awesome decision.
My agency is going to be looking at new sidearms sometime around calendar 2019; it would please me immensely to have a CZ riding in my holster.
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If and when I get a P-10, I have a G19 and a G17 lined up to compare it to from a trigger feel and ergonomics standpoint. This will be an accuracy test of the P-10, not of the Glock. Others can say what they can do with the Glock as far as accuracy goes, I wouldn't be able to give it a fair shake, I'm afraid. Too many variables to compare accuracy. All I will be able to do accuracy wise is compare it to my other CZ's. It better be good is all I can say.
Joe
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My Dept may be looking to replace the Glock 19 in the next few years, and this would be awesome, BUT the "it's not a Glock!" scream is heard all over the place from dedicated die hards. The armorer at my Complex gives me grief every time he sees me about CZ...well, he used too, I outrank him greatly now, so he stays quiet. ;)
I have a couple of Glock 19 holsters around here, a High Noon paddle rig, Speedy Spanky and an old cheesy Bianchi IWB rig I used with the P-01 and PCRs for years. If the Heavens smile upon me, I'll be able to try them out.
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Really interested in trying one out. It looks to be a bit wider, longer and taller than the G19. From what I can tell the eta on these are about 2-3 weeks out. Has anyone come across a more accurate time frame?
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"SOmetime soon" is the best I can get. :) Still better than the P-07 and P-09 when they came out - delays of a few months occurred.
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So mags being cheaper is great, which in turn means mags for the P07 will be cheaper.
The video was nice to see. Wish he would have done more side x side comparison to the 07.
And with the difference in the grip, makes me wonder if the 07/09 grip has a future makeover. [emoji848]
I'm still interested, although I was hoping for a DA/SA like the TP9V2. I know, I know, I just like 2nd strike capability[emoji2]
It's on my list, just not sure where at[emoji6]
Can't wait to hear more real world reviews once they come out.
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Hopefully Mac will do a torture test soon, but it sounds like he is going to wait for warmer weather. I think he's in Indiana so he probably won't do a torture test till May or June.
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I'm very interested but jusr out of curiosity. I wonder how well CZ will meet established market demands for striker pistols. I see two main competitors for the "gold" ring..
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I have really enjoyed shooting my Sig P320sc. For a striker fired pistol, it feels good and is very accurate.
I look forward to trying the P-10, but the P320 has replaced my much used G19.
Richard
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Looks like CZ has a winner on their hands!
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I really want this gun. I think it is a great all around package; but I think when the time comes to replace my carry sr40c (Basically a glock that looks better and has a manual safety), I will reunite my P09 with it's baby brother. Will probably take a few years and many more rounds.
CZ's have just really made me like and live by the hammer.
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I have friends in low places and got my hands on a P10c today. I did not get to shoot it, but did examine it.
I think it is a great gun for its intended purpose, lots of features over many duty pistols---but!
The trigger sucked!
A 5 or 6 pound creepy plastic trigger with a little dickie sticking out is not for me. It is no PPQ, not even a good VP9, and no fix in sight. It is not DA/SA(striker) like a P99 either. It is sort of a Glock in sheeps clothing, but I do not own one of them either.
For now, I will stick with my hammer gun, the lightly modded P07 with a short crisp 3.2 lb SA and a long 8.5 lb DA, it just works.
But that is me and why I have CZ's in the first place.
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Saw this vid earlier today, very good news and love the FDE.
*This forum needs to start a P-10 section of its own. It is CZ's first striker so it doesn't fit into another category. They now have added it to the 75 Compact section which makes no sense. Yes this model is a C (compact) but there are going to be other models of the 10 so where are they going to put the standard??? The P-10C has threads in General, General Firearms, Compact 75, and the Duty sections. Jeez. There needs to be one place for the info.
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Very nice video?thanks for the link. That said, it did make me think (which is about all I can do right now since I haven't handled the P-10C yet) about the differences between the P-10 and, for example, the P-07, PPQ, and P99/P99C (all of which I do have). While I may end up with one, and there will be an initial rush, not so sure how it will fare in the long run vs other similar handguns (including the Glocks). However, the FDE does look good, and perhaps once I handle one the ergos (for me) will be so good that I will end up with one?if not in 9mm, then perhaps in .40 S&W.
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I have plenty of personal experience with the Glock 19 as my issued sidearm that I have to qualify with every year. These are the award pins I can wear in Class A uniform for my shooting ability with a gun I don't like. :) Not blowing my own horn - I actually just found these digging through a drawer, as I rarely if ever wear awards if I don't have to....
(http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b13/armoredman/DOC%20shooting%20award%20pins_zpsl32kbwuf.jpg) (http://s16.photobucket.com/user/armoredman/media/DOC%20shooting%20award%20pins_zpsl32kbwuf.jpg.html)
If I get a chance to test out the P-10C, I will do what I can on my home range, OR possible the secret CATS range, if I can get over there. ;) Then things can get a little more fun. :D
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For institutional armorers, the parts availability and service from Glock/S&W is really hard to beat. If CZ really wants to make inroads with LE, that's what they have to invest in even more than the gun itself.
I see the Sig 320 benefitting from the fact that the fire control unit is the serialized part rather than the frame; that makes it really easy to replace an inexpensive, non-controlled polymer part should it be damaged.
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Not sure if it is a sign about when the P-10c will be readily available, but the first model in the 2017 CZ calendar holding a P-10c is Miss May. O0
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Three P-10 Cs are ordered in the Florida panhandle. 2 black and one FDE (mine)!
Happy New Year!!
Bob
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*This forum needs to start a P-10 section of its own. It is CZ's first striker so it doesn't fit into another category. They now have added it to the 75 Compact section which makes no sense. Yes this model is a C (compact) but there are going to be other models of the 10 so where are they going to put the standard??? The P-10C has threads in General, General Firearms, Compact 75, and the Duty sections. Jeez. There needs to be one place for the info.
I agree, and I'm sure that eventually it will get it's own section. But this isn't CZ's first striker pistol. It will however, undoubtedly be CZ's first POPULAR striker fire pistol and I will get one to go with my pair of CZ 100's, which are still my favorite.
Hopefully Armoredman doesn't have a coronary hearing me say that! [emoji6]
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No coronary yet, but not for lack of trying. I had a CZ-100, and won't do that again! Butm that's just me, everyone has their likes and loves. ;)
"the parts availability and service from Glock/S&W is really hard to beat."
Glock hasn't done much for us but give good deals on new guns, and the difficulty of getting into the Armorer course has left the same guy as the Complex Armorer for 14 years now, when it's supposed to be a 3 year post. But that could be the Dept, as well.
One thing I did see in the video is Tim uses the same grip I do, the one I got SCREAMED at on my Cajun Gun Works P-09 video as being so horrible that I would never be a "A" game shooter! Funniest things I read all that day. ;)
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Like many of you, I can't wait to get my hands on the 10. I love my G-19 and I will never get rid of it.
That said. The P-07 will out shoot the G-19 out of the box IMO, so I can't wait to see how the 10 handles.