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CZ LONG ARMS => CZ Scorpion EVO => Topic started by: SouthernScorp on February 21, 2017, 12:06:51 AM
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Anyone close to coming out with Poly or similar extended charging handles ? I love my HBI handguard but bleep I wish I had a extended handle that doesn't chew the rails up like my aluminum handles were doing "sold them"
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HBI posted on FB that they are 4-5 weeks out on their polymer charging handles.
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How bad does the CH rub against the aftermarket HG? I was about to order an HBI HG but wasn't sure how bad it would rub on the Theta.
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It runs pretty bad. It hangs up is the worse problem.
I went back to stock and don't like it. Will be getting a polymer one asap.
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Ive heard some put frog lube to loosen it up, try anything like that?
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Ive heard some put frog lube to loosen it up, try anything like that?
White lithium based grease would be a much better option, IMO. Frog lube can gum up...
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I'm also working on a solution for this. No time frame yet.
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HBI posted on FB that they are 4-5 weeks out on their polymer charging handles.
Thanks for posting this for those of us without social media.
Assuming it's typical HBI quality, I'm going to buy two the moment they drop.
You bet!
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Ive heard some put frog lube to loosen it up, try anything like that?
Lube doesnt really help the main problem is all the aftermarket handles have some play in them and alot of square or sharp corners, so if the handle is pulled back at any angle other than completely straight you end up scraping off anodizing and or aluminum. The same thing happens when the bolt pushes the handle forward again. Once the anodizing is gone then you start to get stiction where the handle actually starts hanging up or getting stuck. This does not seem to be limited to just hbi, same issues appear with manticore hand guards any brand or model charging handle.
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Ive heard some put frog lube to loosen it up, try anything like that?
Lube doesnt really help the main problem is all the aftermarket handles have some play in them and alot of square or sharp corners, so if the handle is pulled back at any angle other than completely straight you end up scraping off anodizing and or aluminum. The same thing happens when the bolt pushes the handle forward again. Once the anodizing is gone then you start to get stiction where the handle actually starts hanging up or getting stuck. This does not seem to be limited to just hbi, same issues appear with manticore hand guards any brand or model charging handle.
With all due respect, here at Manticore we have had zero complaints about this and you are the only person I know of who has ever said they have had this issue.
Sven
Manticore Arms
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I put the HBI "reduced pressure spring" on the charge handle on the Micro/k, and it hardly contacts the guard, but it seems to work OK. The roll pin they sent is a little big, so I used the original. I could broach out the hole to get theirs started I suppose.
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A square channel could be put in the hand-guard design and a square profiled grooved piece of heat resistant material (e.g. duralon, teflon) could be put in the channel. It could be changed out if it wore down. one could use a metal or plastic handle. Probably add $50 to the price of a handguard. (free idea, ...wonder if it has a patent?
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I'm still waiting for a folding charging handle.....
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I'm still waiting for a folding charging handle.....
This! I want a Vector style folder!!!
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Does anyone here actually have problems with their charging handle?
I've run my EVO through numerous courses now and never had it get snagged on anything or have trouble articulating it.
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Does anyone here actually have problems with their charging handle?
I've run my EVO through numerous courses now and never had it get snagged on anything or have trouble articulating it.
It's an issue primarily for the people using the OEM pistol handguards. The handle there is small enough that you're liable to rake your knuckles across the 9-o'clock/3-o'clock rails when charging the gun. On the HBI handguards, any of the metal charging handles run the risk of scraping the handguard itself, and the OEM handle is still kinda small.
I still firmly believe that an MP5-type handle would be golden for the Scorpion. Bigger than CZ OEM, but not so large as to be obtrusive.
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Does anyone here actually have problems with their charging handle?
I've run my EVO through numerous courses now and never had it get snagged on anything or have trouble articulating it.
It's an issue primarily for the people using the OEM pistol handguards. The handle there is small enough that you're liable to rake your knuckles across the 9-o'clock/3-o'clock rails when charging the gun. On the HBI handguards, any of the metal charging handles run the risk of scraping the handguard itself, and the OEM handle is still kinda small.
I still firmly believe that an MP5-type handle would be golden for the Scorpion. Bigger than CZ OEM, but not so large as to be obtrusive.
That's what I'm hoping for, doesn't heave to be an inch and a half long, just maybe double+ factory. Aftermarket handguards are just as bad if not worse than factory since they made them wider to accommodate suppressors inside the handguard , they have a heavy taper towards the channel the charge handle rides in making the factory one seem even shorter than before.
see image at top right corner, where factory would be straight, aftermarket "not just hbi" are sunk in so now your limited to finger tip vs middle of finger. So regardless of material used some sort of extended handle is now NEEDed vs a wanted upgrade
(https://hbindustries.net/store/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/HBI-SCORPION-HANDGUARD-2D-DIMENSIONAL-DRAWING.jpg)
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Pump shotgun style? Would have to be cylindrical, pull back then twist.
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Does anyone here actually have problems with their charging handle?
I've run my EVO through numerous courses now and never had it get snagged on anything or have trouble articulating it.
It's an issue primarily for the people using the OEM pistol handguards. The handle there is small enough that you're liable to rake your knuckles across the 9-o'clock/3-o'clock rails when charging the gun. On the HBI handguards, any of the metal charging handles run the risk of scraping the handguard itself, and the OEM handle is still kinda small.
I still firmly believe that an MP5-type handle would be golden for the Scorpion. Bigger than CZ OEM, but not so large as to be obtrusive.
I mean honestly out of the 1,000's of rounds I've gone through in classes the charging handle is rarely even used. The bolt release was primarily used.
I dunno, I guess I'm good with my reloads as I rarely would have failures that would require an immediate action clearing.