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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CZ Polymer Pistols: P10, P-07, P-09 => Topic started by: Cyanide on June 06, 2017, 10:13:49 AM
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After many requests, Tim finally runs the P-07 through the gauntlet!
https://youtu.be/kn4Q3X1Jo6A
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I just watched it! If he would have used the second strike on any of the rounds, I think they would have gone off. I think it would have passed both the elemental and gauntlet.
If you watch the Glock video, the Glock passed the elemental and had 2 failures in the gauntlet. They retested the Glock and it had the same thing happen both times. The CZ and Glock ended up with the same number of failures, but would have gone flawless if second strike were used.
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Yep, I agree!
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These are definitely entertaining. In my opinion it is 2nd to only the Arex. When it went out of battery in the first round, was he hoping that by dropping the hammer on the FP it would slap the slide home?
I wonder if the metal 75 series guns will have more trouble due to having full length rails on the slide and the frame.
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The P-10 is going to lock up during these tests and people will be crying big baby tears. There is a reason he hasn't done it yet. They're entertaining at best because if I ever find myself fighting in elements as these then something is wrong. Even in Afghanistan I never found myself even thinking about something as thick as the mud he uses and when it rains there it's nothing but mud. His previous mud puddle tests are more revelvant for everyday carry.o
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I'm actually surprised by the success of both the P-07 and the Rex. I expected the hammer fired guns to fail more, as it has more functional components exposed to dirt/mud compare to the internal striker assemblies.
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Just watched few minutes ago. Very surprised with the P-07. Was hoping for it to do well and it did - GREAT!
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Glad to see the P-07 did so well! 8)
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If you watch the Glock video, the Glock passed the elemental and had 2 failures in the gauntlet. They retested the Glock and it had the same thing happen both times. The CZ and Glock ended up with the same number of failures, but would have gone flawless if second strike were used.
If I can remember, the G17 had three failures. Again if I can remember, during the gauntlet he pressed and covered it but forgot to flip in two of the elements so he subjected it to the gauntlet a second time. An unfair test but it still was impressive.
Regardless, the Rex Zero 1, G17 and now the P-07 have been the most impressive. The VP9, P230, P229/226 (can't remember) have been most disappointing (so far).
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The VP9, P230, P229/226 (can't remember) have been most disappointing (so far).
The M&P also struggled.
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Very impressive, can't say I am at all surprised by the results... CZ makes great guns (end of story). Makes me think I need to add another P-07 to the stable in the near future.
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The M&P also struggled.
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Agreed. The original was abysmal, the 2.0 did a bit better but still not good.
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Good review. I like MAC's videos.
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These are interesting test. The P07 has a slight disadvantage with the quarter cock position on Carry, but that is a huge advantage for the pistol overall. It did very well and while the mud test is ridiculous especially the way it was done in this test it does show that the P07's a darn good weapon.
It is funny how Tim qualifies the test now from all the people dumping on him over the Internet about these tests.
Any double action single action pistol should be put through double strike if it fails.
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The VP9, P230, P229/226 (can't remember) have been most disappointing (so far).
Nothing, I repeat nothing, has been as horrible as the Remington RP9. Two failures in the Elemental and FIFTEEN failures (and not finishing) in the Gauntlet. :o
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The VP9, P230, P229/226 (can't remember) have been most disappointing (so far).
Nothing, I repeat nothing, has been as horrible as the Remington RP9. Two failures in the Elemental and FIFTEEN failures (and not finishing) in the Gauntlet. :o
I agree but wasn't expecting much out of that one or the Canik or High Point. Expected better from SIG and HK.
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That was very impressive for the little P-07! For a pistol that can be had for such a good deal, and has support from the shops with aftermarket parts... it stands as a fantastic deal!
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It was a fun video to watch.
However in 25 years of service, which included wars and more anti terror operations than I can count or remember. My rifle and pistol never went through anything as hard as the test in these videos.
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It's nice to see the P07s do well. The elemental test is interesting as it does kind of show where a handgun's weakness might be. The gauntlet is fun to watch, but it's probably over and above what your pistol would ever experience. The new test at the end where he hoses the pistol out and then shoots it after it's dried for a bit is pretty good too.
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I'm surprised this is the first inverted rail gun he has done for the Gauntlet considering how many CZ/clones MAC uses.
I'm especially interested about this review because it has an omega trigger. I got a 75B Omega and I'm really hoping to see guns with the omega triggers do well.
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Good to see the P07 do VERY well from my seat. But it is a bit interesting to see what was a kin to what the Navy Seals select and use for decades go down in flames. Hence, all the crap thrown at Tim, and his present apologies to all the folks with bunched panties.
Some of us can remember the days when CZs were REALLY an off-brand, foreign, "unsupported gun". Now they seem to be the rage.
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I think it is fantastic the P-07 did so well and any firearm that does well should get it's due recognition. However, with the exception of the water test I really do not see where the rest of this test is applicable to me and will probably not hold it against any weapon that has a bad showing in this test. I will never allow any weapon that my life may depend on to be subjected to conditions this test mimics. Anyway congrats to CZ for a job well done in the design and manufacturing of the P-07, but honestly I think we all knew that without the test.
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I like the test but take it for it's entertainment value. I'm glad the P-07 did well but it would have done better with the hammer all the way down. I realize that's not realistic though since de-cock drops it to half cocked.
I also suspect that some of the guns that don't do so well, do so because they are pretty tight to begin with.