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CZ PISTOL CLUBS => CZ Polymer Pistols: P10, P-07, P-09 => Topic started by: Bossgobbler on July 02, 2017, 12:59:38 PM
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1000 round review I found.
https://youtu.be/6iSmgzwzikA (https://youtu.be/6iSmgzwzikA)
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FWIW, I own a Walther PPS which I frequently carry. Walther makes a great firearm, extremely well-made, reliable, and ergonomic. However, the bore axis on the Walther is high and takes noticeably more effort to come back on target than the P10C. BOTOH, see my comments in other threads about the P10C fangs/dingus eating a hole in the side of my trigger finger (it did it again this morning), which my Walther doesn't do.
Oh, and I found this to be a good review, although I would point out that the slide release on my P10C was initially almost as if it were welded shut and it drove me crazy the first time out. However, after about 200 rounds and dozens of dry releases it started to limber up, and now is about right, i.e., ultimately a non-issue.
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I put the P-10C on to cary for that good solid seat test, and then planned to retire it to the safe while waiting for the real holster to arrive...and somehow i am still carrying it...it's just so darn easy to carry.
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I put the P-10C on to cary for that good solid seat test, and then planned to retire it to the safe while waiting for the real holster to arrive...and somehow i am still carrying it...it's just so darn easy to carry.
It passed the LINT Gauntlet, so it can handle anything. ;)
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The guys at AR15.com even liked that video - I thought they hated everything. Though, I have to say, compared to the video linked above I don't know why I bother making them. I certainly can't compete with that slick work/camera/etc. Heck, I am my own cameraman, too!
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Liked the vid. However, calling it a "Glock killer" may be a bit premature.. When it has as much aftermarket support as Glock does, then maybe. When you can buy P-10 mags at a hardware store, then maybe,just maybe it's a Glock killer.
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Liked the vid. However, calling it a "Glock killer" may be a bit premature.. When it has as much aftermarket support as Glock does, then maybe. When you can buy P-10 mags at a hardware store, then maybe,just maybe it's a Glock killer.
Agreed and to add has at least 10 years service history.
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Nothing is a Glock killer. It has such a cult following that even a working Star Trek class Phaser (the original of course, it is way cooler looking) would fail dissuade it's followers from "perfection." Then what do I know, when they came out I though the tupperware gun had no chance of being taken seriously, let alone making it.
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Nothing is a Glock killer. It has such a cult following that even a working Star Trek class Phaser (the original of course, it is way cooler looking) would fail dissuade it's followers from "perfection." Then what do I know, when they came out I though the tupperware gun had no chance of being taken seriously, let alone making it.
You're not alone..Alot of people did'nt think Glock would make it. One reason they did was through rather shrewd marketing..literally giving pistols to law enforcement agency's. This worked, and long story short this helped them get where they're at today.
To me, the P-10 is a product improved g19, it's where Glock should've been had they actually been interested in improving "perfection". It's enough of a improvement that I'll probably put my g19 into semi retirement, as the P-10 does several things better than the Glock does.
1.No brass to the face, this issue surfaced in Glocks about 2009-2010 and Glock has yet to fully resolve it. Both of my g19's needed a Apex extractor to mostly correct the BTF issues I was having.I still get a BTF on occasion, the P-10, OTH, has never done this, CZ it seems, understands that empty brass should'nt eject into the shooter's face, head, left or right shoulder.
2. The grip. With out a doubt the P-10's grip is better, more comfortable than Glock, I actually don't mind the stippling on the backstrap, it works for me, and if later on, I want to tone it down, a few swipes with some sandpaper will do the trick.
3.Accuracy, They're both close when I shot my g19 next to the P-10, shooting rapidly from a draw, at a 5"circle using a timer, accuracy between the two, as well as the times were very close to each other. However, when I was shooting at 2" circles The P-10 was more accurate, and I noticed it was easier to do with the P-10 vs the g19. When shooting the g19 at the same size circles, I had to try alot harder to get hits.
I'll carry my P-10 when it get back from CZUSA, I like it, I like it alot.. but, I'm not getting rid of the Glocks I own either..
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Here's one after 2000 rounds
https://youtu.be/Aff1sQFkJPQ
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...even a working Star Trek class Phaser (the original of course, it is way cooler looking) would fail dissuade it's followers from "perfection."
You mean this one?
(http://i.imgur.com/YprdgZl.jpg)
You didn't look at it close enough...that's actually the CZ P-1000...
(http://i.imgur.com/Vrhe2IN.jpg)
Now I'm waiting for someone with serious Photoshop skills, (unlike mine), to "Glockify" a Klingon Disruptor
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Nothing is a Glock killer. It has such a cult following that even a working Star Trek class Phaser (the original of course, it is way cooler looking) would fail dissuade it's followers from "perfection." Then what do I know, when they came out I though the tupperware gun had no chance of being taken seriously, let alone making it.
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To me, the P-10 is a product improved g19, it's where Glock should've been had they actually been interested in improving "perfection". It's enough of a improvement that I'll probably put my g19 into semi retirement, as the P-10 does several things better than the Glock does.
1.No brass to the face, this issue surfaced in Glocks about 2009-2010 and Glock has yet to fully resolve it. Both of my g19's needed a Apex extractor to mostly correct the BTF issues I was having.I still get a BTF on occasion, the P-10, OTH, has never done this, CZ it seems, understands that empty brass should'nt eject into the shooter's face, head, left or right shoulder.
2. The grip. With out a doubt the P-10's grip is better, more comfortable than Glock, I actually don't mind the stippling on the backstrap, it works for me, and if later on, I want to tone it down, a few swipes with some sandpaper will do the trick.
3.Accuracy, They're both close when I shot my g19 next to the P-10, shooting rapidly from a draw, at a 5"circle using a timer, accuracy between the two, as well as the times were very close to each other. However, when I was shooting at 2" circles The P-10 was more accurate, and I noticed it was easier to do with the P-10 vs the g19. When shooting the g19 at the same size circles, I had to try alot harder to get hits.
I'll carry my P-10 when it get back from CZUSA, I like it, I like it alot.. but, I'm not getting rid of the Glocks I own either..
Before finding CZ and HK I tried to like Glock, I put a lot of effort into liking it and 1400 of the most frustrating rounds of my life. It didn't help that I ended up with a new lemon of a Glock 19.4 that isn't a true representative of a working Glock. Even with one that worked there are things that I can't live with. Grip angle, Brass in my face, a trigger that is impossible to get acceptable and safe. I still content that the Glock 19 is the absolute perfect carry sized gun for me. I have yet to see P10C in person but will be shooting one soon, but it is looking and sounding like the P10c may be close enough to G19 size that it may be the next to perfect carry size. I really appreciate you comparison of the G19 and P10C. It has been very helpful. Oh, and the 75C and VP9 are not going anywhere either. The CZ just shoots too good and the VP has too high a round count and too much holster were to be worth selling, and its a keeper.
...even a working Star Trek class Phaser (the original of course, it is way cooler looking) would fail dissuade it's followers from "perfection."
You mean this one?
(http://i.imgur.com/YprdgZl.jpg)
You didn't look at it close enough...that's actually the CZ P-1000...
(http://i.imgur.com/Vrhe2IN.jpg)
Now I'm waiting for someone with serious Photoshop skills, (unlike mine), to "Glockify" a Klingon Disruptor
Yep that is the one. A working model might give CZ a run for its money. ;)
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Ahh. I can't decide between P10C, P-07, or P-01 :(
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Ahh. I can't decide between P10C, P-07, or P-01 :(
Wait couple months, then buy p10c. Hopefully, they will "fix" very minor things on it.